Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Why are you using capitalist made devices to post these thread?
Kayden Miller
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Jaxon Parker
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Juan Green
Communism doesn't work
Carson Parker
GET
Jose Nelson
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Colton Martin
JOB
Caleb Hall
SCIENTIFIC-TECHNOLOGICAL ACHIEVEMENTS USSR: SPACE : Tata Sky Development System (direct broadcast satellite) Prime spacesuit, CH-1 (1931) First multistage rocket (1947) Creating the staged combustion (1949) First spaceport, Baikonur Cosmodrome (1957) First orbiting satellite, Sputnik 1 (1957) First living being in orbit, the dog Laika on Sputnik 2 (1957) First man-made object to leave the Earth's orbit, Luna 1 (1959) First telemetry communication to and from off the ground, Luna 1 (1959) First object to pass near the moon, and the first object in solar orbit Luna 1 (1959) First satellite hit the moon, Luna 2 (1959) First images of the dark side of the moon, Luna 3 (1959) First satellite to be launched to Mars, Marsnik 1 (1960) First rocket boots (1960) Creating space food (1961) First satellite to Venus, Venera 1 (1961) First person to enter orbit around the Earth, Yuri Gagarin in Vostok 1 (1961) First person to spend one day in orbit, Gherman Titov, Vostok 2 (1961) First double flight, manned Vostok 3 and Vostok 4 (1962) First probe on Mars, Mars 1 (1962) made the first pictures of Mars from space
Ian Wilson
First woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, Vostok 6 (1963) Multitripulado first flight (3 persons), Voskhod 1 (1964) First spacewalk EVA, by Aleksei Leonov, Voskhod 2 (1965) First probe to hit another planet Venus, Venera 3 (1965) First probe landing on the moon and transmitted from there, Luna 9 (1966) First probe into lunar orbit, Luna 10 (1966) Creation of the Soviet Soyuz spacecraft model (1967), which is the only way that NASA and ESA send astronauts into space First space bathroom (1967) First meeting and unmanned docking, Cosmos 186/Cosmos 188 (1967) until 2006 this feat was not mimicked by the USA Close coupling and exchange of crew in orbit, Soyuz 4 and Soyuz 5 (1969) First extraterrestrial samples returned by Luna 16 (1970) First robot on a celestial body, Lunokhod 1 (1970) First probe to Venus, Venera 7 (1970) First data received from a probe on another planet (Venus), Venera 7 (1970) First space station, Salyut 1 (1971) First satellite to orbit Mars and make a descent, Mars 2 (1971) Second robot on a celestial body, Lunokhod 2 (1973) and with the Lunokhod 1 is the only automated mobile laboratories that have explored the Moon guided by remote control until First satellite to orbit Venus and send data back to Earth Venera 9 (1975)
Robert Fisher
Why do communists still take the labor theory of value seriously?
Grayson Martinez
Creation of the coupling mechanism and docking of spacecraft, Androgynous Peripheral Attach System (1975) Creating space shuttle Buran (1976), which can carry 30 tons (USA model only 25), return flights with load of 20 tons (USA only 15), with a support rate of 6.5 (compared to 5.5 of the USA model), its auxiliary maneuvering system rockets and use oxygen and kerosene fuel instead of solid (like the USA) and gives better performance. Besides the Buran shuttle could make unmanned missions (USA can't), with ejection seats (the USA model does not have) considered the safest and most effective of the history and design more effective and resilient thermal tiles that USA version Creating the world's most powerful rocket: Energy (1976), capable of carrying 100 tons First Spaceship supply unmanned, Progress (1978) First radio telescope (1979) First woman to walk in space , Svetlana Savitskaja in Salyut 7 (1984) First shuttle in orbit to Earth independently, Buran (1984) First multi module space station: Salyut 7 and Kosmos 1686 (TKS-4) (1985) First crew to visit two space stations, Mir and Salyut 7 (1986) aboard Soyuz T-15 First permanent space station to orbit Earth, Mir (1986) First crew to spend over a year on Mir, Vladimir Titov and Musa Manarov (1987)
Lincoln Martin
PHYSICS : First nuclear power plant, Obninsk (1954) Development of the largest thermonuclear experimental facility in the world, Tokamak 10, prototype of a thermonuclear reactor Invention of the Tzar Bomb, the most powerful nuclear bomb in history (100 Mt) whose power was reduced for environmental reasons (50-57 Mt). Comparison to USA bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki 15 Mt Invention of nuclear fusion Invention of the Tokamak (1956), aiming to provide apparatus fusion plasma particle Invention of the first nuclear icebreaker "LENIN" world's first nuclear-powered (1952) Invention of particle accelerator microtron (1944) Invention synchrotron particle accelerator (1957) Invention of the electron paramagnetic resonance spectroscopy (1944) First fast neutron reactor, BN350 (1955) Creation pipeline longest history, Druzhba (1964) First nuclear desalination reactor, BN-350 (1972) First reflectron (1973) Creating the largest geotechnical probe history, Kola Well (1970) Creating BARS Press (1989)
Christian Lewis
>Why are you using feudal made devices to overthrow your landlords? You realise your remark is stupid, right?
Caleb Bailey
ELECTRONICS: Invention of the LED (Oleg Vladimirovich, 1927) Invention of vibratory exercise equipment (1960) Perfecting maser, Basov and Aleksandr Prokhorov Nikolai Lomography Invention (1982) First lie detector device, by Alexander Romanovich Luria Creating underwater welding, Konstantin Khrenov (1932) First reflector telescope, the Maksutov (1941) First laser microphone (1947) Creating the magnetotelluric (1950) Discovery of the Belousov-Zhabotinski Reaction (1951) Creation explosive compression generator pumped flow (1951) Creating 3D holography (1962) First microwave oven (1941) First radio antenna
Jeremiah Long
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Charles Taylor
MEDICINE: Invention of therapies against infectious diseases that were based on bacteriophage virus (1940) Early surgical treatment of congenital heart disease, by pioneering Bukulev Alexander (1948) Creation of Objective Psychology, by neurologist Vladimir Bekhterev, also known for pointing out the role of the hippocampus in memory, his study of reflexes, and Bekhterev's disease First successful cornea transplant in 1931, by Vladimir Filatov, who developed tissue therapy Creating radial keratotomy by Svyatoslav Nikolayevich Fyodorov Creating the Ilizarov apparatus for lengthening limb bones and for the Ilizarov Surgery (1951) by Gavriil Abramovich Ilizarov Creating cultural-historical psychology, psychological activity theory and method of "combined power", by Alexander Romanovich Luria Enlarge criteria for the diagnosis of schizophrenia with the distinction between negative and positive symptoms, a key research and classification of schizophrenia concept, Andrei Snezhnevsky First cardiac surgery under local anesthesia, Alexander Vishnevsky, 1953 Foundation of purulent surgery, Archbishop Luka Voyno-Yasenetsky, Stalin Prize, Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1946. Discovery of Cherenkov Effect (Pavel Cherenkov Alekseyecih) First artificial organ transplant First transfusion of blood from a corpse, Sergei Yudin, 1929. First blood bank. Created by Sergei Yudin in early 1930. Middle of that same year, the USSR would have 65 large blood donation centers and more than 500 branches. Creation of painless childbirth (under anesthesia) Creating Gramicina S (1942) First head transplant with full brain function (1950) Creating anthropometric cosmetology (1952) Creating radial keratotomy (1974) Discovery of Vitamins Discovery of the virus First acoustic microscope (1959)
Juan Phillips
hold the fuckken phone, are you suggesting that the USSR is an example of communism?
You cunt, I don't wanna hear "not real communism" ever again you faggot
Nathaniel Richardson
COMPUTERS: First programmable computer MESM (1950) First Soviet and European electronic computers , BESM (Sergey Lebedev, 1951) and MESM (Sergey Lebedev , 1958) First computer with ternary logic (faster and more reliable than the binary system), Setun (Nikolai Brusentsov, 1958) and model development Setun-70 (Nikolai Brusentsov, 1970) which further reinforced the aspect of programming, improving to by a factor 5 software development over other architectures time oundation of the employed physics simulation techniques that nowadays are commonly applied to animation films and computer games.("Kitty" animation 1968) First personal computer, MIR (Victor Glushkov, 1965) First computer-aided education system in history (Nastavnik), with a clear reference to the current First superscalar computer (processor microarchitecture capable of executing more than one instruction per clock cycle), Elbrus-1 (Boris Babaian, 1970). The use of this equipment in 1978, ten years before commercial applications appeared in the West, the Soviet Union developed its missile systems and nuclear and space programs. Foundation of cybernetics (Victor Glushkov) Invention of Tetris (Alexey Pajitnov, 1984) Invention of the FAR file manager, RAR and WinRAR format file (Eugene Roshal) First mobile phone, Leonid Ivanovich Kupriyanovich (1955), which was copied by the USA in 1970 and Finland in 1980 gave him a civil use with Nokia.
Adrian Rivera
>hold the fuckken phone, are you suggesting that the USSR is an example of communism? He is, and that is utterly stupid.
Kayden Hall
MILITARY: First multiple rocket launcher, the Katyusha rocket launcher (1939) Creating the largest and most powerful in the world single-rotor helicopter, the Mil Mi-26 (1981) Creating the Sikorsky S -64 Skycrane, able to lift more cargo than any other in history Ekranoplano Creation (1950), similar to an airplane that uses the influence of the "ground effect" over the sea to just not consume fuel and carry 500 tons. Creating the world's largest aircraft, capable of carrying 225 tonnes, the Antonov 225 (1980) First telemechanical plane First supersonic passenger plane, TU-144 First (and only) aircraft powered by a nuclear reactor, TU- 119 First (and only) space fighter aircraft built, the MIG-105, capable of knocking launchers , missiles and enemy satellites in space and back. Creating the MIG-25 fighter jet with absolute altitude record (37.650 m), rise time from 0 to 30 km (3 min 10 s), speed circuit 500 km (2981.5 km/h) First (and only) seaplane world operating reactors, Beriev BE-200 First ship to explore the North Pole, NS Arktika (1972) Creating the most produced biplane in history, the Polikarpov Po-2 (1927) Creating the Ilyushin Il-2, the most produced aircraft in history. First hydrofoil, Raketa (1957) First ship missile, Komar (1959) Creating faster and able to dive deeper in history (1300 m), the Alpha class nuclear submarine. I just needed a crew of 27 people (compared to the 110 that need an american model, Los Angeles) as it was very automated.
Jaxson Sanders
USSR was socialist state with a communist party not communism
Aiden Nguyen
Creating the largest submarine in history, the Typhoon class, only in carry 5 helmets (which makes it support several torpedo hits before being knocked out) and unique history in bringing certain luxuries like individual cabin, gym, pool, sauna, lounges, etc. First tank with composite armor, the first to incorporate an autoloader, first tank missile launch: T64 First military robot; the Tt -26 ( 1949), a remote controlled tanks to minimize human casualties; equipped with DT machine guns, flamethrowers, smoke grenades and sometimes with a bomb between 200-700 kg which was released near the refuge to destroy enemy bunkers up to four levels underground. Was also trained to carry chemical weapons, but not used for safety and environmentalism. First flamethrower tank in history, KHT-26 (1931) First tank with wings, Antonov A-40 (1942) Creating the best and most produced tank of World War II: T-34 (1940) Creating the most produced tank in history, T-54/55 (1945) Close reactive armor (1960) Close reactive armor capable of protecting against APFSDS ammunition (armor piercing), 1985 First infantry fighting vehicle in history (BMP-1 created in 1961) in addition to NBC protection, anti-tank, amphibious capability and launchable parachute with a 73 mm cannon, anti-tank missile launcher and 3 PKT machine guns. It was badly copied in 1980 (20 years later) by the USA, to get their first IFV, giving birth to the M2/M3 Bradley. It was 16.5 tons heavier than its counterpart BMP-1 with less crew and with a much smaller (and without missile capability) cannon. First paratroopers forces with military use of history in 1930, being also fully mechanized his paratroopers with BMD (launchable parachute). USA still has not an IFV support their paratroopers. First aerial firefighters (1936) First modern assault rifle, the AK-47 (1947) First torpedo remote control glider, PSN-1 First torpedo reaction, PRAB-203 First supercavitating torpedo, VA -111 Shkval First airship missile
Joseph Morris
First intercontinental missile (R-7 Semyorka, 1957) First anti-ballistic missile (1961) First intercontinental missile submarine, Vysota R-29 (1969) Creating multi-rocket engine chamber world's most powerful liquid fuel, RD-170 (1987) Creating infrared serving RKKA First drogue parachute (1937) Creating Sambo Martial Art by Anatoly Kharlampiev (1938) First underwater assault rifle, the APS (1975) Creating the Active Protection System, Drozd (1978) First bathyscaphe, Mir (1987). First to explore the seabed under the North Pole First performed the maneuver "Cobra Pugavhev" in 1989 First ramjet engine, R-3 (1939) Aerowagon creation (1917) pioneered Schienenzeppelin German, the M-497 Black Beetle USA and Soviet turbojet train First snowmobile history, RF-8, based on the pre-Soviet prototype Aerosani First antisatellite weapon (1960)
Aiden Reed
There is no cognitive dissonance among communists, only blatant lying to further their stupid cause. you fucks are hypocrates, you know it and you don't care because you have no virtue.
communists aren't people!
Connor Brown
ART: Creation of the polyphonic or contrapuntal, metric, rhythmic, harmonic, melodic assembly. Previous conceptual audiovisual modalities, including video and clip, by Sergei Mikhailovich Eisenstein Invention of xerography Creation of chroma Kinopanorama Invention (1956) SOCIAL ACHIEVEMENTS : First and totally FREE public education system, which achieved the highest rates of literacy in history in the 15 Soviet republics. Moreover, Soviet schools offered free food for students, so the work-life balance is made much easier than today in the capitalist countries. Even kindergartens were also free. First FREE and universal health care system, which increased the life expectancy of the Soviets, less than 40 years in 1917, to reach Western levels in 80 (70 years). The achievements of hunger eradication and health systems can also compare with the average height of the Soviets in 1917 (1,60 m) to 1980 (1,80 m). This health system discovered painless childbirth and performed the first organ transplant. Between 1945 and 1964, the Soviet national income grew by 570%, compared to 55% in the USA (and remember that the USSR was not a Marshal Plan to help the country) Invention of evening studies so that workers could build careers. First country in history where abortion was legal and free (since 1920) First country in history to achieve an unemployment rate at 0% Equality policies, one of the first countries to adopt women's suffrage First woman in history to hold a position in a government (Aleksandra Kollontai)
Dominic Walker
Why don't you? Do you know what it is?
Michael Torres
Wrong assumption.
Jonathan Carter
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Jaxson Nguyen
It's the idea that the value of a product is connected to the socially necessary labor involved in creating it, and I haven't seen any good arguments as to why that should be the case.
Aiden Reed
you've been caught faggot, you're incapable of admitting it. care to refute?
Jacob Campbell
OK, OK, I got it, STOP. What the hell. Do you know that all of this is lost now? "Thanks" to communists who converted to capitalism.
Hudson Reyes
1) Socialism is a phase of communism, not a distinct mode of production. 2) The USSR was never a upper-stage communist society, nor a socialist one. 3) The USSR started as a mostly feudal society and then evolved to plain capitalism. 4) The USSR was indeed ruled by a communist… in the early 1920's! After that, the state became plain bourgeois (infrastructure shapes the superstructure, remember?).
Joshua Mitchell
Bring back soviet union then
Julian Edwards
(1) Soviet society was indeed socialist. (2) This society had many undesirable and problematic features. (3) The problems of Soviet society were in part related to the extremely difficult historical circumstances in which the Bolsheviks set about trying to build socialism, but that is not all: important policy mistakes were made (just as possible in a socialist society as in capitalism), and furthermore the problems of Soviet socialism in part reflect serious weaknesses in classical Marxism itself. (4) The failure of the Soviet system is therefore by no means irrelevant to Marxian socialism. We must reflect carefully on the lessons to be learned from this failure. (5) Nonetheless, unlike those who delight in proclaiming the complete historic rout of Marxism, we believe that a different type of socialism—still recognizably Marxian, yet substantially reformulated—is possible. The Soviet Union was socialist, but other forms of Marxian socialism are possible. (6) This claim can be sustained only by spelling out in much more detail than hitherto both the sorts of economic mechanisms and the forms of political constitution which socialists consider both desirable and feasible.
Fellow "working" class negros (in english so it's more offensive)trying to save us from this capitalist nightmare we live in
Zachary Hughes
GO FUCK YOURSELF DICKHEAD
Noah Richardson
Soviet socialism, particularly following the introduction of the first five-year plan under Stalin in the late 1920s, introduced a new and non-capitalist mode of extraction of a surplus. This is somewhat obscured by the fact that workers were still paid ruble wages, and that money continued in use as a unit of account in the planned industries, but the social content of these ‘monetary forms’ changed drastically. Under Soviet planning, the division between the necessary and surplus portions of the social product was the result of political decisions.
Robert Hall
Undialectical.
Justin Sullivan
We should definitely start hanging priests. Russian Orthodox Church used loophole in laws to occupy Sain Isaac's Cathedral and transform it into another fucking church, THOUSANDS OF THEM!
Ryder Lopez
why are you posting this daily? your kind is not welcome here
Lucas Bennett
>Soviet society was indeed socialist. Not it wasn't. The economy was entirely based on trade. In other words: it was capitalist.
Jace Allen
>Under Soviet planning, the division between the necessary and surplus portions of the social product was the result of political decisions. Yeah, that's probably why the completed the first five-year "plan" in… four years?
Sebastian Allen
I'll fuck you commies up when I see you.
Blake King
Remember comrades, the imperialists use fake news to revise successful communist history.
Josiah Cox
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Cameron Allen
>that O*setian SCUM who gave our lands to our neighbours for FREE kys you jew loving faggot
Zachary Baker
Being the product of human labour is the only common trait of every commodity.
Angel Garcia
Don't you get bored of posting this thread and having people make fun of you every time? You would honestly have more luck with this shit if you went to a left-leaning forum. Its like trying to build a basketball team in a north Korean elderly care facility.
Jose Jones
>The most common mistake of Stalin’s opponents was to underestimate how exceptionally well read he was. That he was erudite we now know from the remnants of his library of 20,000 volumes, from the slips of paper and letters in which he asked for books, and from the recollections of those who knew him in his early years. What the seminary did not make its pupils read, it banned them from reading, thus stimulating the trainee priests to read even more. In 1910 the Tsarist secret police observed the exiled Stalin visiting the library in Vologda seventeen times in 107 days. By the time Stalin was thirty he had read quantities of classical, Western, and Russian literature, philosophy, and political theory. In four years’ exile, from 1913 to 1917, in the Siberian wilderness—unsociable, uncommunicative—Stalin read whatever he could scrounge from fellow exiles. Even in the chaos of revolution and the pursuit of power, he read. He read all Russian émigré periodicals from the 1920s to his death. >With never-flagging curiosity he [Trotsky] listened to the harrowing tales of wartime refugees, Belgian, French, and Serbian, and filled his notebooks with their stories. Back in Paris, he would read some twenty European newspapers a day at the Café Rotonde, where Martov could be found at almost any time of the day. From the Rotonde he rushed to a library to study serious military periodicals and literature, French, English, Italian, German, Austrian, and Swiss. In these journeys and studies he found relaxation and refreshment; and they also prepared him for a great job ahead.
Thomas Barnes
The same old Spanish guy....you've got to be kidding me....
Jose Campbell
Looking through the list of "communist firsts" is hilarious, 90% is pointless bullshit, the rest is probably mostly stolen from western research through spying, or just straight up lies, ak47 first assault rifle? bitch plz XD
Communism has almost no development because there are no entrepreneurs. It's all done by state decree, so when they say we want tanks and planes that can do XYZ they can sorta keep up but all other development just slows to a crawl, cause fucking around trying new things will not help you fill the latest 5 year plan and thus most likely land you a nice spot in a gulag.
Jason Murphy
So? How does that fact affect the value of the commodity?
Thomas Johnson
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Gabriel Long
It IS the value of the commodity. In order to compare two completely different things you need a quantifiable trait common to them both.
Caleb Thompson
>same shitty autistic images every fucking day at least post something new you stupid faggot
Jace Moore
Nope. The value of the commodity is the subjective importance a person places on it, unrelated to the amount of labor that went into producing it.
Cameron Cook
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Camden Watson
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James King
Thank you comrade for creating and actively attempting to break this ideological trashcan of reactionaries. I stopped making these kind of threads already on 2012 but you have inspired me to wear the red sleeve even on this board.
Do you think that entryism is a viable tactic at this point?
Matthew Phillips
>The value of the commodity is the subjective importance a person places on it That is just a way to say: "value does not exist".
Dylan Gomez
I'm not sure if you are being ironic here.
Nicholas Price
get the fuck outta here
Carson Mitchell
But evidently it does, because trade happens. How could people trade if they couldn't make (subjective) determinations of value?
Mason Campbell
>reddit
You don`t belong here.
Charles Evans
Allow me to rephrase:
That is just a way to say: "commodities do not have a quantifiable trait, independent from who is looking at them, that we could call value".
Justin Flores
And that would be correct.
Samuel Thomas
But evidently it does, because trade happens.
Tyler Gutierrez
>Spanish user >muh gommunism
Franco didn't do a good job apparently
Justin Robinson
ALl men are not created equal. Some are born swifter of foot, some with greater beauty. Some are born into poverty and others born sick and feeble. Both in birth and in upbringing in sheer scope of ability every human is inherently different. Yes, that is why people discriminate against one another, which is why there is struggle, competition, and the unfaultering mark of progress. Inequality is not wrong, equality is. ALL HAIL BRITAINIA.
Juan Gomez
History has shown that communism never works, same goes for the extreme on the right, complete free market capitalism.
Justin Thompson
That's subjective value. You're speaking of objective value. One exists, the other doesn't.
Luke Miller
Socially necessary labour time does not exist?
Liam Allen
NO its you and your stupid "comrades" who don't belong here you subhuman faggots back to /leftypol/
Connor Sullivan
You are welcome comrade, it's both fun and didactic , it is interesting to know the enemy.
>Do you think that entryism is a viable tactic at this point?
What we need is a new vanguard party.
Levi Barnes
It does, but it has no influence on the value of a commodity.
Lincoln Bennett
>What we need is a new vanguard party.
In the United States. The rest of the world would follow.
Kevin Thompson
>muh safe space
Jordan Lewis
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Jordan Perez
If I inspired even one of my comrades then is completely worth the effort.
Ryan Reyes
>It does It is, by definition, what you just called "objective value".
It doesn't have any influence on what you have called "subjective value" indeed, but Marxism does not assume it does anyway.
Isaac Diaz
You still here? why don't sage and hide?
Andrew Young
But that's not value, that's cost. Of course you can make a calculation to determine the average cost of producing a given commodity, but I don't see what that would tell you about the value it has for anyone.
Christian Sullivan
Holy shit OP, this thread is the definition of tl;dr
Robert Parker
At first I hated you. But as the days go by I feel sorry for you. This is so sad. Tell me you have friends OP. This isn't your life right?
Lucas Howard
>Arguing about terms. So apart from not using the same words you would have, what is the problem with the LTV?
Zachary Smith
it's honestly just funny at this stage.
Nicholas Miller
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Luke Smith
Yeah... your communism didn't invent the internet, so stop appropriating capitalist culture you red piece of shit and GTFO... communism will never ever happen again in this world.
Asher Morales
We will use the internet to liquidate the bourgeoisie.
Jayden Robinson
>It is, by definition, what you just called "objective value" This is circular reasoning. You're attempting to justify LTV as an accurate determinate of value by citing the LTV as the definition of value.
In reality the LTV is debunked by the fact that current goods have more than future goods of the same quantity.
Oliver Sullivan
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Eli Sullivan
Its inability to explain how market prices are formed makes it useless as an economic theory.
Xavier Reed
>come here to see if anybody is actually talking about communism >it's just some autists copy pasta Well, I can't say I'm surprised.
Bentley Ward
On the contrary, it explains it pretty well.
"It's subjective anyway", on the other hand…
Evan Powell
>raids >people call him out on raiding >DRUMPFY WANT A SAFE SPACE?
Lincoln Wood
>You're attempting to justify LTV as an accurate determinate of value No. The other user and I did not agree on the very existence of value, let alone its determination.
>In reality the LTV is debunked by the fact that current goods have more than future goods of the same quantity. Could you rephrase? I don't get what you are saying.
Tyler Reed
They're not capitalist made, they're made by workers you dip.