Trump wants to poison the USA and Sup Forums unironically supports it

Trump wants to poison the USA and Sup Forums unironically supports it.

Why is Sup Forums so dumb?

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coal is good for water, that's why my espresso machine has a charcoal water filter.
Checkmate, atheists.

Why didn't you momma get an abortion?

The options were;
a) unchecked immigration, further destruction of society, etc. etc.
b) possibly reduced immigration, further destruction of society, etc. etc.

The world is so fucked in so many ways that it's impossible to account for every issue. Trump represented a change, or at least the possibility of change, to get the ball rolling in the right direction. Of course he isn't ideal but the NationalSocialistGreenMonarchistAntiDemocracyTraditonalistReducethepolulationto50millionethnicallyeuropeanamericans party isn't on the ballot and never will be. The environment will get fucked whichever way you vote because no-one will talk about reducing population growth.

Proof that Trump is cannot be /ourguy/, he supports coal burning.

Because to people living in first world countries, 'nature' is just something that happens when you go camping or fishing, not a completely interconnected web of food chains and complex chemical interactions that keep us all alive. Trust me, you're wasting your time on this board if you have anything positive to say about the environment. To the scum on this board, nature is all about manipulating and profiting from it in any way you can, it is after all the basis of our entire socioeconomic system.

Unfortunately people in first world countries don't realize we have already fucked ourselves, and will continue to until the crop cycles fail catastrophically. But hey, what's some more coal and industrial chemicals dumped into our water supplies? We've been doing it for decades and we're fine, right?

>dumb
I'm not stupid, I just hate Americucks.

>first world countries not understanding how nature works.
Thank god african scientists figured all this shit out.

where do think the electricity that charges your electric car comes from?

I guess the US prefers breathing in black waste instead of letting their women get fucked by black waste.

Makes perfect sense.

Agreed Britbong, the real problem is that every new mouth added to this world requires resources, and in first world countries a single person consumes about 30 times more resources per capita than anywhere else on the planet. But yet people just keep shitting out kids not thinking of the future. I find it funny though that after they have kids they are then naturally concerned about the future because they have no choice. I think it's funny how humans have essentially backed ourselves into a corner, and the only way it is going to play out is a complete and total collapse. It was fun while it lasted, but Mother Nature always gets the last laugh. She's been having it for billions of years. People dream up interstellar colonization fantasies and geoengineering fixes and think technology will solve all of our problems, but tech just buys us time. We could have the most advanced technology in the universe, and it would mean nothing if the individuals wielding it still think like Cavemen.

Real problem is too many people they should offer $50,000 to sterilize yourself.Way cheaper in the long run.

Solar panels, wind, autism, pozz, magic and good thoughts?

Sup Forums wants america to collapse you stupid fuck. Why do you think we made trump your president?

>implying we dont want USA to destroy itself
Thats where you're wrong kiddo.
The US must be divided into its constituent states.

>TOO MANY PEOPLE, WHITES SHOULD STOP FUCKING
>TOO FEW KIDS, OY VEY THE PONZEY SCHEME WILL COLLAPSE, WE NEED TO IMPORT SHITSKINS.

>Implying poisoning half the population would be a bad thing

I say we round up all Facebook users and start from there. They're the dumbest of the bunch.

>Le may may about black people
If you don't have an argument about how humans are systematically destroying the environment for material gain, then leave this thread and go kill yourself. You might as well do it now, the future will be full of violence, starvation, and disease.

>implying I give a fuck about USA ecology

you also shouldn't

underrated

>REEEEE BAN INDUSTRY CAUSE NATURE
no

Survival of the fittest motherfucker, The entire fucking planet is our bitch now

What? I would never!
As you said yourself, first world countries have NO idea how an ecosystem works.
It is obviously left to the proud black man to figure it out.

>german has one of the highest coal power percentages in the G7 after they shut down their perfectly safe nuclear reactors to appease deranged liberals
>now they have extremely expensive power, pollute far more, and buy nuclear power from France at a loss because solar and wind don't work

you idiots can't talk shit to anyone after you basically created the dumbest electric system on earth

Nah desu if the biosphere dies we all die. Drop the feel good eco initiative and Trump should fund research on how to control the climate.

Coal is gonna get burned no matter who is president or leaf in chief, snowmexican.

As long as we do it to the right people; at the moment we have a system where the most intelligent, beautiful, successful people have the least children, while the trash of our populations have the most.

It isn't as simple as 'muh white baybies', we want our ethnostates for sure but we also need to address the dysgenic effect the current system has had on our nations. We want a high quality of people instead of just a large quantity. Once the borders are secure and the ballot box has been obliterated the quantity of people becomes less important. The UK for example would do a lot better with about 10 million people, ideally less.

cant filter shit if we burn it all

Seriously. The wynn lesbian cunt is trying to do the same shit to Ontario's ebin 60% nuke 30% hydro grid. Oh and the handful of gas plant that needs cancelling because muh votes.
>no refund =^)

cryptic american sense of humor.

BLACK POWER

Sup Forums were the liberals all along.

Rope when?
I'm sure a few pro nuclear riots would do well, considering how fucking high our power cost is going cause lmao nature goyim

Sup Forums were always the liberals

>Sup Forums were always the liberals
You speak for yourself fampai

Did the US/world stop burning coal under Clinton/Obama?

No.

Clean Energy is great, sure.

Sup Forums is about the utter destruction of the USA.

Charcoal is actually known to save people from Poisoning.

read nigga, read

>Why is the dumbest board of the dumbest website on Earth so dumb?
Great question OP

>doesn't offer an alternative

I bet you fell for the "muh solar panels" meme, too.

Agree. Every empire has been built on the health of its soil, and once we finish off the American soil, they are done.

It was a fucking JOKE you autist.
>coal burning
>white girls fucking black guys
>Trump advocate coal burning

>wtf it's not funny
no not anymore, nigger

Sup Forums has always been a combination of classical liberals and paleo-conservatives.

>To the scum on this board, nature is all about manipulating and profiting from it in any way you can, it is after all the basis of our entire socioeconomic system.
Its like its fashionable for conservatives these days to want to destroy the environment and bash those who care about it. So many conservative types think they HAVE to believe the opposite of what liberals tend to think.

Environmental stewardship IS a conservative value. Just the word "conservative" implies conservation. The Bible has several passages on environmental stewardship. And many conservatives of the past like Theodore Roosevelt did care greatly about the environment.

Hydroelectric/nuclear energy

>We're smarter than nature. We can just completely ignore what we're doing to nature, and spend out way out of any problems!

T. right wing retards

piss off dopey prince

So how can your wife be (((yourgal))) when she burns coal?

Democrats already posioned the gene pool.

I also want to poison the USA, increase the rate of death by disease, and eventually get a civil war going. Unfortunately Trump seems to want more peaceful solutions to improving this nation.

fucking newfags

Burn the coal pay the toll.

coal power plants are pretty damn cool desu.

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>We're smarter than nature. We can just completely ignore nature and continue importing as many third-world animals as we want becuase an increasing human population has never been correlated with declining biodiversity!
t. left wing sperglords
Leftism has always been a denial of nature, hence feminism, transgendersism, and every other ridiculous -ism. They wouldn't even care for the environment if global warming wasn't shilled so hard by the media, but their concern is limited to status signalling.

>Sup Forums is one person
The reason Sup Forums used to be good was that it incubated all sorts of out-there, antimodern thought.

>in first world countries a single person consumes about 30 times more resources per capita than anywhere else on the planet. But yet people just keep shitting out kids not thinking of the future.

This doesn't happen, birthrates in the first world are rock bottom because of the strong work ethic you need to actually support an entire family of people getting 30x the resources of the average person while competing against the rest of the world.

What we do is have birth rates naturally go down because of the unsustainable pressure on the average person, and then keep this cycle going by importing new people, who eventually suffer the same fate as the natives. Because overpopulation is eased in the poorer countries, they are then able to have more children. This is called "ethical" by the left because immigrants themselves economically benefit by forestalling the end of the continual raping of the earth by the super rich first world.

There has to be a balance of energy sources in this country. Putting huge regulation on coal and putting people who are otherwise unemployable out of work is a bad idea. Staying reliant on other countries for oil while we have our own is a bad idea as well. Its more simple than just pollution, its international energy politics. ((they)) dont want us to be self sufficient and the politicians want to exploit tax payers by funding their friends green energy companies.

Exactly. The right are the ones truly supporting nature.
>but muh republi...
OH REALLY A BUNCH OF CHOSEN NEOCONS DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT NATURE? WOW.

The right are just a little aspie about GW, while the left concern troll about it, blow it out of proportion, and offer no solution.

You faggots realize coal became clean energy in the last couple of years or so, right? Look up clean coal some time.

>were not already being fucking pounded every second of our lives with fucking poisons

I think their concern is with CO2

This is one of the only things I don't like about Trump. Coal is inefficient, wasteful, and basically just completely useless as a source of power when we have VASTLY superior alternatives such as nuclear fission or hell, even hydroelectric.

It's about energy diversification, Kong Ming.

Then why is Trump "diversifying" by relying more on coal which already powers a good portion of America?

You don't have to be a chink to see that nuclear power is a superior power source in every single way. If Trump replaced a third of America's coal plants with nuclear you'd never run out of energy.

I agree with you, I was clearly writing this post which agrees with you while you were writing your own

However the reality is there is no party on the left or right that is for the conservation of nature as both want to exploit it more and more, either by directly encouraging global population growth by importing people from the third world, or by adopting a clear cutters approach to the environment.

>The left offer no solution to GW

They want to encourage the transformation of the economy from fossil fuel based to sources of energy less heavily based on GHG through taxation of carbon emissions to make people feel the environmental consequences of their actions before they actually happen. This will encourage people to avoid heavily polluting activities with low economic benefits. Every country in the world must do this to be effective, or the economy will route around the taxes and buy from polluting countries and invest in polluting countries. This is supported by a strong majority of economists, as the least bad option, especially if it's combined with efforts to reduce taxes accumulated through other means.

They also encourage direct investment in green energy products, and practices lower in carbon emissions, like a more vegetable based diet, or replacing in person meetings with teleconfrencing and such.

What do you mean "offer no solution". The left to me offers a fairly concrete plan. What enrages me in Canada is we're willing to be cucked by the rest of the world by raising carbon prices before everybody else does, resulting in people just buying cement from China, and gas from the US.

The rights solution is ignore the problem, downplay its severity, presume that global warming will completely reverse based on nothing but gut feelings, and outspend the problem down the line. Taken to an extreme, this is a HIGHLY inefficient solution.

Belief in AGW seems to be stronger if one lives on the coast.

This

Because much like clean coal, Obongo and other liberals have been cock blocking nuclear expansion for years, and coal is easier to expand right now. It hasn't even been a month yet and Trump at least was very pro nuclear during the election.

Clean coal technology is a real thing.
Carbon dioxide isn't pollution.
The greenhouse effect is what makes life possible on this planet.
Alternative energy sources will never generate enough electricity to meet the demands of modern America.
Electric cars are feasible with cheap coal produced electricity.
Cutting dependence on foreign oil is in our interests for a long list of reasons.

>Why is Sup Forums so dumb?
Automobiles produce more air pollution than the coal fired power plants.

Automobiles cause more deaths than guns in the USA.

We should ban automobiles.

Shit that should of read no viable solution.
>What enrages me in Canada is we're willing to be cucked by the rest of the world by raising carbon prices before everybody else does, resulting in people just buying cement from China, and gas from the US.
That's exactly the fucking point! The US may be willing to do the same shit but China and India wont.

Plus the vast majority is still retarded, like vegetable based diet, solar, wind, carbon credits, etc. Especially the latter, with nothing but pretend-standarts for it's distribution.

>The rights solution is ignore the problem, downplay its severity, presume that global warming will completely reverse based on nothing but gut feelings, and outspend the problem down the line. Taken to an extreme, this is a HIGHLY inefficient solution.
When the fuck did I allude to that?

You can't rebuild something from scratch if you don't destroy it first.

desu we should try and clean that up, try and recycle it back into useful materials

why just leave perfectly good plastic to sit in the ocean

I really am baffled by how naive Canadians are when it comes to believing that implementing a carbon tax will make the rest of the world follow us, or that it's morally righteous.

Like I said, the economy interprets taxation and regulation like this as damage, and routes around it. Similar to how the internet treats censorship. All we're doing is entrenching industry underneath the biggest polluters in the world that care the least about the environment. We're not even putting a noticable dent in global warming, and reducing our ability to deal with it.

There is moral concern on the left in that Canada is a big exporter of fossil fuels and enriches itself largely based on this environmental destruction. The left I believe sees this self-flagellation as a form of penance. The issue is this approach is more retarded than righteous.

What would actually help the environment if you were willing to make sacrifices for it, would be tariffs against polluting countries that made it more expensive to import our bitumen against countries not up to our environmental standards, and trying to make an economic bloc of countries that adhered to certain environmental standards. The left is however is fully willing to tax itself into the ground while allowing free trade and not punishing countries that undercut them with loose environmental standards because they're retarded neoliberals.

I'm not saying this is necessarily what Canada wants to do, we're awfully small to be starting any trade wars, but what we're doing now is ineffectual virtue signalling that is weakening one of the few countries that cares about the environment.

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Th would not work either, there are tons of countries they could import oil from, starting with the fucking Saudis.
Western countries should stop importing oil from these pricks, and overall become independent from the rest of the world, enrich ourselves and use the money for Iron seeding in the ocean or stuff like that, which will work regardless of how much shit the East is outputting, you can always just do more of it. There are limits to cutting your own emissions. Also research technologies that are actually viable economically, less memes. Incentive for less compliant countries to follow along and also making sure we don't bankrupt ourselvses.

For the east, once they will be isolated for long enough, it will be in their best interest to stop reproducing so fucking much and stop outputting that much garbage.

You're right, Canada only makes up a tiny fraction of global oil exports. Ultimately we're just using the carbon taxes to feel good right now though.

Ultimately though every single country has a mutual interest in mitigating global warming, it's just a tragedy of the commons type situation.

I believe action will be taken against global warming, just a little later than we should have gotten started.

You ever notice how so many old cultures and religions have a flood story? The bible talking about how the flood washed away the wicked and corrupt? That's because flooding is an issue so rarely the first thing the corrupt and wicked neglect is preventing low risk high consequence events like flooding. Global warming is a modern example of this, it's something that corrupt people will put off dealing with until we're under water, it's something we see time and time again in history, a historical meme.

Eventually global warming is going to cause flooding to happen EVERYWHERE and people are going to absolutely lose their shit and then something will be done for sure.

I'm just here for the happenings, i don't care how they are invoked

>it's just a tragedy of the commons type situation.
Yes exactly and you wont fix anything until the sheep farmers have their plot of land fenced off from each other. A group of 5 people it may decide to work together without fences, but a planetary market of 7 billion? Yeah, no.

is that anthracite?

>Survival of the fittest motherfucker, The entire fucking planet is our bitch now

No, man...

Coal isn't bad for the environment, because Carbon Dioxide is literally plant food.

The higher the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere, the faster plants grow.

It's called a feedback mechanism.

>Why is Sup Forums so dumb?

brainwashing. Poor white American who un-ironically believe a white right republican will ever do anything except make the rich richer.

the definition of fucking retarded

Really activated my carbon

Coal-fired plants have scrubbers to remove carbon and sulfur and OP is a fag