What's the end game of climate change alarmists?

What's the end game of climate change alarmists?

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To make money, and secure a job for their children.

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To save the planet because they mistakenly believe it's in danger. They will inadvertently destroy western civilization. Their entire ideology is a weapon against us.

To try and stop the extinction of man from planet earth.

The planet is never in danger, but humans are.

the usual
money money power control destruction

lol
A fucking leaf

Government money handouts
More government control of corporations

Ice age.

CONTROL

Complete control over every facet of your life.
>You can't eat that
>You can't drive that
>You can't buy that
>You can't own that
>You can't do that

world domination and destruction of Christianity. Same as communism

To concentrate power in a socialist government, and eventually try and create a one world government.

End game? We survive long enough for the world climate to settle down in a new (warmer) mode for a thousand years or more. In the meantime, we have problems to cope with: loss of low-elevation land, salt-water contamination; etc.

Look up Club of Rome.

It's being used as a common enemy to unite people against globally. It's being used to create international agreements to push for more international governance. Carbon taxes are a justification for wealth redistribution.

That is NOT complete control. Complete control would be: you MUST eat that; you MUST drive this; etc.

fuck bitches
make money

ya what are we going to do, if the earth gets hotter all life will die

just like when it was 6-8 degrees hotter for 100 million years during the Jurassic period and life boomed

get woke on paleo-climatology you uneducated nigger

To answer to OP:

Its a religious thing, they are a doomsday cult.

technology and industrial progress is a sin
nature is perfect and divine
and man is inherently evil

most people dumb enough to fall for the green meme haven't really thought about the fact that the end game of greenism is reverting back to the stone age and then killing every last human

No shit, Sherlock. Banning everything but what they want you to have has the exact same end result.

>>You can't eat anything but that
>>You can't drive anything but that
>>You can't buy anything but that
>>You can't own anything but that
>>You can't do anything but that

ITT: fucking morons

How could you deny that climate change is bad for the world?

Climate change will be used as an excuse to tax humans out of existence.
At some point the taxes will become so prohibitive having children will be financially impossible.
Our blood lines will die out and the earth will become depopulated as only the extremely wealthy will be able to have children.
This is the elites end-plan for the vast unwashed masses and why the Climate change narrative is so important to them.

To impose the Global Warming narrative on people by force.

A classical one; creating guilt among people via schools, campuses and mainstream media, here there's a setup ready for politicians and alarmist to mold people's minds as they please and adding even more ridiculous regulations.


For example heavily Taxing cars and even banning them in favor of government-owned public transport (Already happening in European cities in a lapse of 15-20 years), urban planners are already pushing for this.

How can you prove it is?

In so many fucking ways where do you want me to begin?

anywhere

(((Environmental tax)))

Enumerate all possible ways

to take your money

Lmao Ok.

Polar ice caps melting could increase the sea level by nearly 12 inches in two centuries. That's disastourous.

CO2, while being plant food, will start to increase drought and flooding and general craziness until crops are reduced by about 50% in two centuries.

Disease, famine, hurricanes all of those will become stronger and deadlier. Those are just the greatest hits.

Correction >12 feet not 12 inches

>grow up in Northern Canada
>be cold as fuck as a kid
>now it rarely drops below -40 when it used to be -40 for weeks on end
>way less snow than before
>winter starts a month later, ends a month earlier
>it was barely below freezing last week

I don't know what's happening but I love it.

Governments don't give you money if you tell them "Everything is fine."

Wow, it's fuckin nothing.

I'll just leave this cartoon here.

Tell that to your children, and their children.
You're a fucking idiot. Get fucked.

>more regulatory control
>more money to pass out to 3rd world shitholes

That's literally it.

It happened before, under exact same circumstances. How could it be bad?

Manufacture a problem so big, it requires a (((world government))) to manage it.

>appeal to morality

LMAO

$$$

Lmao. No it didn't.

There are, in addition to a billion other variables, factors that didn't plunge us into a runaway effect. The biggest of which is a younger sun and sulfur dioxide.

Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize you hgad just finished reading Baby's First Logical Fallacy, let me rephrase.

You're a fucking idiot who is scientifically illiterate when the overwhelming majority of evidence we have points towards our inevitable doom.

Also kill yourself.

Minimize the impact of climate change as much as possible (It's too late to avoid it.)

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more funding in their professional fields

The seas have risen over 400 feet in the past.
Colder temps historically bring on famines and plagues. We're exiting an ice age currently.

You sure you wanna make things cold again bud? Are you prepared to accept the consequences of making the world colder?

climate change is code for population control

To save the earth.

It's not an end game; it's just their default state. Just what they like to do. A sort of self-brainwashing cognitive dissonance.
Watch this:
youtube.com/watch?v=rnEsI2fTaJo

The low class: to try and save the world and sheit.

The (((ones))) behind all of it: to create fear, hopelessness, and divide between the people, just like (((they))) do with everything else. It's to control people.

A tax on living.

Solid post leaf.

We must secure the existence of climate change alarmists, and a future for their children

Except this is actually a good argument and the warmist's wager is not.

did you say something?

>TRUMP IS SO TINY

Just like his approval ratings.

Which resulted in less species diversity, by nearly half. I don't understand what your point is, just because the sea level rose and life wasn't annihilated doesn't mean your dumbass is anywhere near the capability of surviving like those mammals did.

>You sure you wanna make things cold again bud? Are you prepared to accept the consequences of making the world colder?
This is all I needed to hear to convince me you're retarded
You clearly don't understand what we're trying to accomplish here.

>What's the end game of climate change alarmists?
Basically the santa claus argument.


They want the government or whateaver to pass some laws and they climate change is real, to use it as a way to influence people to change the laws, or to use as a excuse to when they change the laws.

Like when someone tell santa claus exist to make you go to school everyday, what you will do, in the hope you will receive a santa claus gift at the end of the year.

1/3rd just wants to make money.

1/3rd wants to keep the status quo and not lose their jobs

1/3rd wants to save the world or at least try something to not fuck future generations.

>Even if Sandyhook was a hoax or not, we should have the government take away our rights to privacy and to own guns

We're in a interglacial stage right now

depends on if you're asking about the average joe who believes the global warming hysteria or the (((authorities))) behind it.

For the former, they think they are helping to preserve the planet for future generations, which is a noble enough goal.
The problem is that in pursuit of this they are being actively lied to by (((certain interests))) who are pushing this crap for more cynical purposes - that is, globalist NWO one-world government and mass socialist-style wealth redistribution.

>This is all I needed to hear to convince me you're retarded

So lemme get this straight.
Cold climates that result in famine and plagues are lies, even though it's proven shit, and you're totally cool with it happening?

/thread

the usual endgame: take our guns

There is no agenda behind it. Humans have dramatically altered weather systems, devastated landscapes, and generally greatly harmed the natural balance of things for short term gain. Corporations and big business have fed you this lie of "muh government control" so they can engage in reckless acts of pollution.
In the end, humanity ends in a wimper. Too stupid to realize that by doing harm to the world we hurt ourselves.

What the fuck are you even talking about. Do you really think we're trying to make the world colder? Do you seriously think that's the solution we're trying to push on you? What world do you live in?

We're trying to stop humans from pumping 29 billion fucking tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

>inb4 it's not actually getting to the atmosphere

I wonder if the elite will even want children? They're so full of gender propaganda and liberalism who's to say they won't create a new subclass of people with the specific purpose of of breeding for them? The future will probably be even more extreme than what we know of today.

End game? The idea is to keep it from BEING the END "game".

To tackle a global issue we need global cooperation. Ffs no one's asking for a one world standing army, its literally just negotiating the best way to live on this planet together.

>Do you really think we're trying to make the world colder? Do you seriously think that's the solution we're trying to push on you? What world do you live in?
I know that's what's going to happen if you get your way.
You might think you idiots can control this shit. What'll actually happen is, you'll fuck up, as humans are always wont to do when intentionally fooling with nature, and you'll end up causing more problems than you tried to solve.

>We're trying to stop humans from pumping 29 billion fucking tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.
Good. What about the other 97% produced by tectonics and life itself? You think a system as wild and dynamic as earth's climate, with literally thousands of affecting variables, will kowtow to you stopping a tiny minuscule amount of one greenhouse gas?
You really think you have that much power, whelp? You egotistical little shit.

How will you even know if you've made a positive difference? Also, as an aside, what are you doing to prepare us for the next VEI-8 eruption or major impact event?
You know, ACTUAL threats?

>>against technology and industrial progress

Literally progressing technology because of development green energy

You are, without a doubt, the dumbest person I've ever met. I have no words to describe how disappointed I am that people like you can even vote. Holy fuck.

Let me address your rebuttals:
>I know that's what's going to happen if you get your way.
Again, what the fuck are you talking about. Nobody is saying make the earth cooler, we're saying "Take the human carbon footprint off the planet"
>You might think you idiots can control this shit. What'll actually happen is, you'll fuck up, as humans are always wont to do when intentionally fooling with nature, and you'll end up causing more problems than you tried to solve.
This one makes me the maddest. Becuase you're acting like humans have ingrained themselves into nature. That, 4.6 billion years of history WITHOUT humans and fossil fuels didn't exist. How fucking short sighted and arrogant can you get? We're removing anthropogenic warming. Nothing more, nothing less. And freeing ourselves from oil dependence.
>Good. What about the other 97% produced by tectonics and life itself? You think a system as wild and dynamic as earth's climate, with literally thousands of affecting variables, will kowtow to you stopping a tiny minuscule amount of one greenhouse gas?
All of these pale in comparison to the amount we spew from our factories and cars.
>You really think you have that much power, whelp? You egotistical little shit.
Against mother nature? Not a chance. But we're giving ourselves and our children the best possible chance to survive beyond a few centuries.
>How will you even know if you've made a positive difference?
The fact that we won't be in widespread famine and death? The fact that the earth will be relatively stable temperature?
>You know, ACTUAL threats?
Again, short minded as fuck. And unequivocal or comparable to climate change. Also, I have no clue. I'm not a fucking climatologist or meteorologist. Ask one of them.

>this kind of people actually exist

People like you are the reason i am getting less racist each day that passes

Seriously. It's fucking insanity.

Let me tell you why this is wrong:
1. When governments talk about the climate, they don't give a shit if the Eastern seaboard is underwater next year. They care about the companies who are lining their foundations pockets the year before the Great Flood. They don't give a shit about you and never will, because they'll have the money to live it up if it all goes to shit.

2. When the government invests in "green" shit, that really means it's investing in the people who gave them donations when they ran for office.

a) "We're funding electric cars! They're green!"
>They're still powered on electricity produced by coal
b)"We're funding solar panels! They're green!"
>They lose efficiency every year and are therefore not a sustainable energy source. They do, however, offer a great way for the government to encroach on the private businesses that provide your electricity. Instead of investing in panel companies and subsidies to put them on houses, governments should invest in solar panel research at universities and private labs.
c) "We'll get rid of fossil fuels, that way we'll never have any pollutants! That's green, right?"
>We will always (at least in the foreseeable future) need oil. Oil derivatives make up nearly all plastics and lubricants on the market. Even electric cars need oil (although not in the same capacity as regular cars) to grease axles and bearings. Wind turbines need tons of oil to function regularly. The oil industry will never go away until someone develops an alternative for lubrication.
d) Nuclear power is scary and therefore is not "green". We wouldn't want a meltdown now, would we?"
>Nuclear power has been proven time and again as a safer alternative than oil and coal combined. Risk of a meltdown is much less than the risk of a well fire, burst pipe, or oil freighter crashing into an iceberg. Scientists are currently working on ways to recycle nuclear waste, which is actually very minimal despite what you might have heard on TV. Cont

>Again, what the fuck are you talking about. Nobody is saying make the earth cooler, we're saying "Take the human carbon footprint off the planet"
And you, like the egotistical fuck you are, think you and your friends can do this without fucking it up.

>Becuase you're acting like humans have ingrained themselves into nature. That, 4.6 billion years of history WITHOUT humans and fossil fuels didn't exist.
And you act like the earth can't handle this new-found thingamajig. Lemme clue you in sport. This planet eats shit like AGW for breakfast. Humankind has been through far worse than even the worst AGW-alarmist sky-falling bullshit predicts.

>And freeing ourselves from oil dependence.
And most of you fucks HATE fracking and nuke power. You seem to think we can sniff earth-farts to fuel our energy needs.

>All of these pale in comparison to the amount we spew from our factories and cars.
Not in the slightest. It's the opposite.

>But we're giving ourselves and our children the best possible chance to survive beyond a few centuries.
If you were serious about this, space colonization would be your prerogative, not shitting on oil companies.

>The fact that we won't be in widespread famine and death? The fact that the earth will be relatively stable temperature?
You cool the planet "by accident" and you can bet on famine and disease. Happens every time the climate chills the fuck out.

>I'm not a fucking climatologist or meteorologist
pic related

>meteors and VEI-8 eruptions are "short minded as fuck"
I really do want Mt.Yellowstone to blow up in my lifetime to humble you retards into stupor.

>could be problems two centuries from now
>tfw I'm infertile and have no connection to, or reason to care about the future of the earth ans humanity so this is of no importance to me whatsoever

>And you, like the egotistical fuck you are, think you and your friends can do this without fucking it up.
Fucking what up? The 4.6 billion years of humans burning fossil fuels? Yeah I remember that being taught in my textbooks. It's a well known fact we've been pumping that shit into our atmosphere since the accretion disk finished right? :^)

>And you act like the earth can't handle this new-found thingamajig. Lemme clue you in sport. This planet eats shit like AGW for breakfast. Humankind has been through far worse than even the worst AGW-alarmist sky-falling bullshit predicts.
Earth can't handle nuclear bombs, those didn't exist either you fucking idiot. Mother nature isn't as robust as you think it is.

>And most of you fucks HATE fracking and nuke power. You seem to think we can sniff earth-farts to fuel our energy needs.
Hydro electric, geothermal, solar radiation. Literally any one of these could power all earth's energy consumption.

>Not in the slightest. It's the opposite.
In what way user? Be as specific as possibly so I know how to rail you in the next comment. CO2 is the driving force of the greenhouse effect. Any 5th grader could tell you.

>You cool the planet "by accident"
LOL. I don't even know how to respond to this. You've got to be trolling at this point.

>pic related
>I really do want Mt.Yellowstone to blow up in my lifetime to humble you retards into stupor.
Kill yourself.

Then you're selfish user. It's not just your legacy that lives on. All of ours.

cont.
>Governments fund fusion research, but only because they think they can make the next superweapon out of it (which is true). However, it is also a low emission alternative fueled by hydrogen isotopes. Guess which planet's moon has a lot of those?

3. When people say "we want to implement green policies" they really mean "we want control of more of the public's wealth to further the agenda described in (1) and (2)". If you still haven't picked up on my main point, it's that GOVERNMENT POLITICIANS ARE THE LARGEST BACKERS OF CLIMATE CHANGE "SCIENCE", THEIR POCKETS ARE LINED BY "GREEN" COMPANIES WHICH AREN'T REALLY SUSTAINABLE, AND THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU.

So whenever you see this idiotic cartoon: Remember: If you believe the bullshit they're forcing down your throat - If you think for a minute they have your best interests in mind over getting re-elected next term - If you REALLY think that their policies are the best ones to have to get us out of problems we might be facing - If you ABSOLUTELY believe that the government has never screwed you on anything and that they would never do it on such a national level - then keep living in your shithead fantasy world. I hope death comes quickly for your flock of steeple, and I'll see you in the Slaughterhouse.

THIS IS MY POINT WITH CLIMATE CHANGE YOU FUCKS NEED TO KNOW.

GLOBAL GREENING ~ MATT RIDLEY LOOK IT UP

THE IDEA IS INCREASE CO2 HELPS PLANTS GROW AND HELPS CROP YIELDS
IF IN THE FUTURE WE EVER START LOWERING OUR CO2, WE WILL LOWER OUR CROP YIELD GLOBALLY CAUSING A FOOD SHORTAGE

I honestly wish I could have belief in god and Christianity. All the Christians I know are such happy, well adjusted people.

Plus, how can Deus Vult if there is no Deus?

Also, I forgot to mention, but I am an atmospheric scientist. Not that any of you will believe me unless I stick a marker up my ass, but just putting that out there.

Global Warming is probably the most effective way of getting rid of a significant portion of the most undesirable people in the world.
What's wrong with that?

I request evidence that climate change exists.

>china pollutes x10 more than US
>no weather change, just bad air

okay.

Algore sure got rich off of it.

And why should I care one whit about your decents?

does china burn clean coal?

Rediculous shit tons of money. The end.

Easy: to get more funding/prop-up shit e-friendly businesses by telling us that we are all going to die in 100 years.

>does china burn clean coal?
It's probably the only thing China does not burn. Even puppies are not safe.

FUCKING WRONG.

CO2 increases crop yields is true, but this doesn't scale positively as time goes on, increased CO2 means more heat, weather cycles kill crops, fungi, disease, all thrives in these conditions. Look up a report on it.
Educate yourself you fool
noaa.gov/climate

If you want to believe start talking about God as if he is an actual person to you, that will do

The real hoax

I heard shock therapy can help with that, too.
We can shock you into believing in God again, user. We have the technology if you have the desire.

What is the correct CO2 level for the plant?
What is the correct global temp or what ever temp you want?
There are wrong answers, but no right.

You're idea is 'pretend to believe long enough and eventually you will genuinely believe'?

>It's a well known fact we've been pumping that shit into our atmosphere since the accretion disk finished right? :^)
And plant life doesn't adapt to this, just like animals don't adapt to eat more food when more food becomes available. Yeah, nature never adapts.
For people who claim to know science you sure have a funny way of showing it.

>Earth can't handle nuclear bombs, those didn't exist either you fucking idiot. Mother nature isn't as robust as you think it is.
Yes it can. The impact in the Yucatan that wiped out the dinosaurs(but not life itself and certainly not the earth) was more powerful than all the nukes on earth going off at once. Far more powerful. Again, you have an ego problem here. You think humans are meaningful to the earth. We're not. We could blip out of existence in the greatest war imaginable and the earth wouldn't give a shit.

>Hydro electric, geothermal, solar radiation. Literally any one of these could power all earth's energy consumption.
No they couldn't. Do you have any idea just how big our energy needs are? And did you know our need for food is in debt to the petroleum industry? Do you know what the Haber process is?
As a chemist myself I'd be interested to know this alone.

>CO2 is the driving force of the greenhouse effect. Any 5th grader could tell you.
1. No. That's be water vapor by an order of magnitude.
2. 5th Graders don't know anything. Most people outside of hard stem don't.

>LOL. I don't even know how to respond to this. You've got to be trolling at this point.
You = shut down carbon emissions(don't know how you plan to convince the non-West to do this since they're the majority emitters of carbon dioxide) = go too far(as humans always do) = cause cooling instead = cause famines and plagues

Simple shit.

On the bright side you might get the seas to fall 400' to their levels of 14000 years ago.

At this moment in time, CO2 should be around 250-300 ppm, you can extrapolate the temperature it should be from there but suffice to say we would expect temperature anomalies to be no more than +-.2C