Is the daily stormer /our guy/?

I don't think so.
here is a quick run down:

>>daily stormer, richard spencer aren't really /our guys/
>>this is a bold claim, so bare with me.
>>our guys, regardless of belief, are participants
>>they use their participation to let their beliefs compete in the great free market of ideas that we enable through our participation
>>instead of participating in this free market of ideas, daily stormer and richard spencer by pass their proclaimed audience and goes straight to the leftist media.
>>they use the leftist media to push their ideas over our own produced ones.
>>the leftist media typically then use them as an opportunity to amount an attack their ideas and conflate it as ideas which came from here
>>essentially the msm use them to create strawman which they would then attack, pretending those strawmen is really us.
>>and our ideas are left to be ignored, further and further isolated from normies.

it is a pattern they keep doing. richard spencer, andrew aglin, they namefag and put themselves in front of the leftist media to pretend they are on the tip of something.

So the one time this guy really appears publicly in years is because TRUMP is running for pres? this guys a fraud.

>Andrew Anglin's Daily Stormer

That's some serious namefaggery right there.

They can do whatever they want but Sup Forums and daily stormer are not linked in any way.

it's a bit annoying how every time the msm need a narrative to discredit the gen z, or our red pills, shills like richard spencer and andrew anglin are always more than willing to provide the very talking points the left wants for their 'virtuous fight'.

We don't have a "our guy"

okay redditer

Voat...

Stormfront, Spencer, religionfags, etc are to Sup Forums what SJWs are to the left. Loud, cancerous, and always trying to project and force their views onto everyone while attacking their own allies if they don't meet their arbitrary requirements or abide by some stupid book.

Nobody wants either group around.

>Voat
>Leaft

I should have know. Do you need an upboat for your participation?

Anglin is doing Odin's work. His site is disgraceful, hilarious and needed.

The WSJ header is funny shit.

My favorite one was when the banner at DS used to say "The World's #1 White Genocide Website" and some kike who wrote an article about DS interpreted it to mean that they were "Whites advocating genocide".

So Anglin changed it to "Daily Stormer: The World's #1 Pro-Genocide Website".

>Loud, cancerous, and always trying to project and force their views onto everyone while attacking their own allies if they don't meet their arbitrary requirements or abide by some stupid book.

No, they are not because if they were, fine, they have a place. The SJWs do not attempt to court right media, right media has to bait them into talking to them. These cucks go directly to vice, MSM, and say LARPery shit that then becomes the main points of conflict instead of our real issues.

Why does he keep namefagging? If he is doing Odin's work (and it isn't just him, but those who visit and participate in his forum), why does he do shit like this?

Are you saying that the Daily Stormer shouldn't publish anything besidez Sup Forums memes?

When the WSJ went after Pewdiepie they pointed to the Daily Stormer's website, which was, at that time, listing itself as Pewdiepie's #1 fan site, as proof he is a nazi. So the D.S. is trolling back WSJ.

It's the opposite. The cucky types like Cernovich and PJW are the ones attacking people with more extreme than them.

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Learn to read favela monkey.

There are parallels in strategies, but not sides. You can have to warring groups engage in similar strategies for victory and yet not share the same goal. The fact you can't acknowledge this makes you a retard.

Bullshit, that' exactly what you said, that they're "bypassing their intended audience", as if they were Sup Forums employees.

Are you gonna act like a leftist or will you read the context? I said they bypass their intended audience by going to MSM.

The infect any place that isn't leftist with their bullshit and give the left and MSM reasons to attack and discredit anything that leans to the right. Pretty much like niggers "muh white genocide" "we wuz everythang" "muh socioeconomics". Then going as far as attacking anything that isn't white, alienating all minority groups due to their percieved superiority and uniqueness. Pretty much the blueprint for SJWs but conservative. The only reason they aren't out in the streets is because they aren't mainstream and in fact hold back the white race from accomplishing anything due to being idiots.

Both sides are filled with loud idiots doing pretty much the same shit

>Pic related

They missed a huge opportunity to get views on the tubes of you. But I hesitate to arm them with that knowledge.

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>muh white genocide

is fine if they aren't doing it for MSM to craft a strawman. Many SJWs are too aware that going on tucker is bad for them, and yet spencer and anglin keep running to the MSM. Explain to me how come they keep doing this?

You just answered your own question if you use logic.

Spencer and Anglin does it on purpose, and have been doing it for years.

Their audience is people who visit their websites, not Sup Forums, otherwise they would just post their content on Sup Forums. Sure, there's an almost complete overlap, but it's still their own platforms.

They go to the MSM for exposure, and at least Anglin, also to troll them. Unlike Sup Forums, increasing their public can't hurt them, so they go for as much attention as they can get. Getting MSM exposure can be bad for Sup Forums since it attracts bad posters.

Though, I don't understand what's the issue. They want to expand their audience as well as produce content for it. If they want to brign in new people, they must do different things that are aimed at Sup Forums posters.

Some things Anglin does are entirely aimed at the normie media, considering the times he just straight up lies with offensive and outlandish stories. Like one onterview when he claimed to have numerous brainwashing bootcamps around the US.

You can say those tactics are harmful, you wouldn't be the first to say so, but that's another argument. In the end, both The Daily Stormer and Radix are very different platforms from Sup Forums. To me, everything seems fine since they're not purposedly associating themselves with Sup Forums, such as claiming to be a Sup Forums leader, or even loved by Sup Forums.

What they say gets associated with Sup Forums, but there really is no way around that, since Sup Forums isn't a political website, or the staff present their views publicly. DS' views are Anglin's, Radix views are Spencer's, while Sup Forums ideas will always be the ideas of people who post on Sup Forums, we control it.

Aren't the owners or w.e. Jewish or married to a jew?

How does that image make any sense? What the fuck? Is the dude behind that mask supposed to be a feminist? Why does he wear a sad mask? What what what???

>Like one onterview when he claimed to have numerous brainwashing bootcamps around the US.
Lol. Link please? That sounds hilarious.

It's a neutral mask, supposed to symbolize a neutral party saying "yea SJWs are just as bad as the other side" while in reality being a SJW himself

>Daily Stormer the site the argues that open borders is bad
>Daily stormer is nazism in cahoots with pewdiepie

Everything you said is reasonable and valid if you are okay with living in denial about how they continuously court MSM attention and basically willingly let MSM use them (and not their respective platform points) as the strawman to slay in the next distracting news cycle.

When will MSM ever confront immigration? They rather create a distraction with anglin then do anything to deny the 'alternative facts'.

That's The Right Stuff, one of the hosts is married to a Jew.

Speaking of TRS, some months ago Spencer addressed a very similar point that OP is making. This was right after Spencer did a press conference, and talked about it on The Daily Shoah.

He said people were complaining about him talking to the MSM, and that it's useless. His answer to that is that his aim is to spread his name and message, and normalize it through exposure.

>He said people were complaining about him talking to the MSM, and that it's useless. His answer to that is that his aim is to spread his name and message, and normalize it through exposure.

That's the problem. He is normalizing it as a target of disparagement. As a caricature of everything we believe in. He isn't normalizing skepticism towards open borders. He is normalizing that it is okay to punch a nazi, he is normalizing himself at the expense of everything we hold as red pills.

Richard Spencer is also married to a half breed mongrel and one of his major backers is an iranian publisher.

you know deep down that I am not wrong about spencer nor anglin.

Yes, I think that precisely what they want to achieve, become a target for the MSM with thr basis that bad publicity is better than long publicity.

I can't claim to know their exact long term strategy, but I doubt either think they'll ever change the MSM. They just want more exposure, and turn more people to the right that way. They also help discredit the media by giving them fake leads, and making them seem neurotycak. Like when Anglin claimed to be planning a demonstration in Whitefish (where Spencer's mother lives), called "James Earl Ray Day extravanganza". The media ran a lot of news about this bog display of hate and anti-semitism, and how the Whitefish Jewish community was being threatned, and in the end nothing happened. This also brought more attention to what really was going on, Jews were harassing Spencer's mom into seeling her house and donating the money to (((charity))). Whitefish Jews were pressured, and disavowed the woman thag was harassing Spencer's mother. In the end, Anglin's trolling gave the entire thing visibility.

You might say that's a bad strategy, that it energizes the left, and is bad image. There are other people who think that, but that's what Anglin does, exposure through trolling.

>You might say that's a bad strategy, that it energizes the left, and is bad image. There are other people who think that, but that's what Anglin does, exposure through trolling.

But he doesn't increase the exposure. At first, yes. But right now, they are caricatures and they hinder Trump's agenda which if it is successfully communicated, even adversarially, would do wonders to solidify the right. Where we are right now, anglin is doing more harm than good.

The gen z have seen the media lump someone they have belong in a personality cult with to some unknown asian looking neonazi.

I can see how you think now, it's a common view among the WN 1.0 people, that is, the old ones, 50+ years and so.

There have been many, many arguments about this already. My position, a common one among tbe youngest people, is that if it works, it works. Going by results alone, The Daily Stormer is much more popular than any other website, like Amren and Vdare. So is Sup Forums, and the growth is much better too.

So people want to keep doing what has worked until now, attacking leftists and the establishment without compromise. It doesn't matter how much they don't like, or their attacks.

In the case of Whitefish, a prominient member of the local community has attacked Anglin over what he did. The claim was that it gave the local WN 1.0 people needless exposure, and embolstered local antifa. Many disagreed, the Whitefish community got called irrelevant, and that they haven't achieved anything in decades.

The same person also complained about what happened to Ben Garrison, that the edits ruined the career of a Libertarian cartoonist. That was really what demolished both arguments, since Garrison's trolling both shifted his views to the right wing, and also gave a new public and more exposure. In Garrison's case, the trolling was productive in the long run, for him and WN/Fascism/alt-right, even thought it might have been harmful for him at firsy.

So most people want to keep trolling, without caring much about how much leftists and liberals will respect them. I'm in that camp, because it works, and also because I have no respect for liberals and their opinions on anything.

On Spencer's wife, she's Georgian. It might be debatable if Georgians are white or not, but she's not mixed race.

Anglin fucked up on gen Z with pewdiepie. 50 million subscribers who know pewdiepie and not anglin will see how the media used what anglin said to mischaracterize pewdiepie. Do you think they will remember anglin fondly? I don't.

>Whitefish

it's a small town compare to pewdiepie audience.

>leftist/liberal response

The trolling is anglin/spencer engage in with the leftist media is them serving as useful idiots to the leftist media.

I am not sure how aware you are, but pewdiepie fan base is bigger than daily stormer and what anglin did was basically what quinn did with gg and I can tell you, many of us who started off in GG will never forget quinn.

Considering how it didn't harm Trump much during the campaign, I doubt it'll harm him now that he's president. Things are much different nowadays, the media is very discredited.

They tried to tie Trump to David Duke, a political dinossaur and already estabilished figure, and it didn't work. It's not going to work anymore. What'll people say "The media has been calling people nazis for decades, but now it's different, because I can tell they're telling the truth now!"?

You talked about Gen Z, yes you're right. And you know the result? The Daily Stormer is massively popular among teenagers and even kids. Going by Alexa, DS has a reach of almost 2 million people, and Anglin says a very large part of that, from a third to half, are Gen Z.

>not reading dailystormer everyday?

gayest thing i've ever heard

I've been around Pewdiepie's fanbase a lot recently, you give them too little credit. They're not dumb, they're siding with Pewdiepie over the media, and they're not attacking Anglin over his trolling either.

You can see it for yourself, go on the videos, they are all making non-kosher jokers, and defending Pewdiepie. And from their tone and Discord chats, they wouldn't be outraged if Pewdiepie wasn't entirely joking either.

It's a very different world, and a very different generation. But again, don't take my word for it, go on their circles and see how they prefer attacking the media over obeying it, and attacking DS and Pewdiepie.

>You talked about Gen Z, yes you're right. And you know the result? The Daily Stormer is massively popular among teenagers and even kids. Going by Alexa, DS has a reach of almost 2 million people, and Anglin says a very large part of that, from a third to half, are Gen Z.


How does anglin even know? Alexa gets its data from ad networks. And DS/David Duke/Richard Spencer did harm trump, and Trump won inspite of it. You can't say a leech on the elephant's ass is beneficial. At best, Anglin strategies is benign parasitism and at worst, useful idiots hindering us for short term gains in views on his site.

But there's a limit to how much you can accomplish as an anonymous internet movement. At some point, people like you need to realize that we have to move into real life if we want our ideas to mean anything.

Besides, do you really think the MSN is incapable of screencaping posts on a Mongolian Horse Archery board?

Yes we do.

>They're not dumb, they're siding with Pewdiepie over the media, and they're not attacking Anglin over his trolling either.


You aren't that self aware. You think your brand of stink is acceptable to flaunt. It isn't. Anglin is a parasite. Gen Z first and fore most will see people like Anglin (not their beliefs, the people like him) as enemies. The media will use Anglin to drive naratives that distract. Do you seriously think the vast majority of GOP who voted for Trump are WN? These people would have to waste time to battle narratives, fake news really created by self interested useful idiots who prefer to grow their name recognition, instead of tackling the issues that matter to all of us

>islam
>terrorism
>immigration
>trade
>jobs

this is convincing me that anglin is nothing but a useful idiot.

>while attacking their own allies if they don't meet their arbitrary requirements

Sounds a lot like you, actually.

>It's a neutral mask

No, it isn't.

>while in reality being a SJW himself

That's not how that dude looks. Picture is a stereotypical SJW.

Yes, they are oldfags that made their own little shithole.

>Besides, do you really think the MSN is incapable of screencaping posts on a Mongolian Horse Archery board?

They can screencap and they do, but it doesn't make news like a namefag willingly go to the MSM and live up to the caricature the MSM want them to be. It's a pattern, anglin and spencer, they run to the media and become the strawman the media wants them to be.

it is so weird.

>Many SJWs are too aware that going on tucker is bad for them, and yet spencer and anglin keep running to the MSM. Explain to me how come they keep doing this?

Because Tucker knows how to handle leftists; the leftists don't know how to handle anything if their reflexive barrage of 'racist' and 'sexist' doesn't stick.

I don't think you've been paying much attention. The MSN isn't comming off better out of these clashes; I don't get what your trying to say.

Honestly, it sounds like you're so used to losing that you can't accept winning as anything expect a Jewish trap.

There are ways to measure how much traffic a website receives, Alexa isn't the only service. Though very precise numbers can't be know, The Daily Stormer is the most popular far-right/alt-right website, well ahead any other, including the more high brow Vdare and Amren.

You can keep saying how it's runing "respectability", and how the right-wing needs to go back to trying to find a compromise with the left. But that's sounding an awful like the cuckservatives that got trounced.

You might not think so, but to me, when someone on the right is criticised by the left, I consider the leftist wrong, instead of attacking the right wing person for being criticised. It's called "not punching right", it's what leftists have always done, and it has served them very well. They don't trounce their extremists to gain the good will from the right, they let the communists run free, and pull the Overton Window to their side for decades.

When an enemy attacks you, it's a good thing, because it means you are threatning them. If you're not attacked by your enemies, that's because you're either not a threat to their power. or not that different.

>It's a pattern, anglin and spencer, they run to the media and become the strawman the media wants them to be.

Right, and the media expects to run out the guns, call them racist and islamotransphic and a bigot, and then for the target to apologize and go whimpering off into obscurity.

Remember the Hail Victory thing? If things worked like you seem to want them to, Spencer would have vanished after that happened. But all it did was catapult him into prominence, increasing the visibility and 'signal strength' of white nationalism while gaining the MSN nothing. Cucking the message like you want gains nothing, because the left cannot moderate their attacks (everyone they don't like is LITERATELY HITLER) and the effect of those attacks is largely dependent on the victim reaction.

Hue fuck nailed it. You faggots need to stop carrying the left's water.

>Because Tucker knows how to handle leftists; the leftists don't know how to handle anything if their reflexive barrage of 'racist' and 'sexist' doesn't stick.

This is pure denial. Spencer and Anglin goes to the leftist media and larp knowing full well how bad the leftist media wants to see larpers in order to attack them.

>Honestly, it sounds like you're so used to losing that you can't accept winning as anything expect a Jewish trap.

The classic jewish trick of projection. Trump won in spite of MSM and the useful idiots (spencer, duke) that enabled their narratives. See Stop being a fucking kike parasite.


Stop strawmanning me. I never said we need to compromise. I said we need to ask ourselves who are the parasites that weakens our fight and the answer is: anglin and spencer who out of clearly monetary greed, are trying to develop their name recognition at the expense of what we want. They are parasitical. They create problems, distractions, fires, for attention in ways that benefit and validity the left's narrative at our expense.

We can tell pewdiepie fans that, yes, we believe jews are bad but anglin shouldn't have done that. he was selfish.


>When an enemy attacks you, it's a good thing, because it means you are threatning them.

They aren't attacking us. They are attacking these strawman that anglin wilfully let himself be. They aren't attacking our beliefs about immigration or islam. They are attacking some pathetic gook who thinks going to MSM and being the caricutre they want is good.

No, the media doesn't expect that. You don't get what's going on. The narrative, they need to frame it in a way that won't allow the discussions that need to happen to happen. They want to make the issue anglin instead of the issue of policy. This is what they are trying to do with Trump and why the media is evil. We let parasites hurt us.

Protecting a parasite who feeds off us is not us carrying the left's water.

>Honestly, it sounds like you're so used to losing that you can't accept winning as anything expect a Jewish trap.

>Do you think that the vast majority of GOP who voted for Trump are WN?
No, but they'll have to be, the US' survival depends on it.

You named your interests and political objectives, by them I can tell you're not "there" as much of most of Sup Forums, but you're on the path we all took.

If you want a new perspective on things, I can post important material that changed a lot of people's views on race, politics, religion, society, etc.

On the level of present day, actual politics, that is, the stuff that's done by elected politicians, you don't have to worry. Things are looking very good for the US in the next 8 years minimum. Republicans will keep control of both houses, and will pass reforms without much problem.

The battle fought by the "alt-right", people like Spencer and Anglin, isn't one for electing politicians, but a battle for people's minds, specially the new generation. And I can tell you, the right wing is winning, and winning big league.

I can also post statistics about Generation Z, but cutting it short, they're much, much more conservative than Millenials. Beyond that, they might turn out to be the most conservative generation alive, even more than 65+ years old boomers.

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>knowing full well how bad the leftist media wants to see larpers in order to attack them.

And how well are those attacks working? If you remember the past two election cycles, the media is clearly losing the control it had then.

Of course, you probably don't.

>I never said we need to compromise.
>But we need to get rid of the people who have a strong message

So here's a question; who don't you want to purge? What white nationalists are good enough for you?

>The classic jewish trick of projection.
>I have no arguments, so I'll call you a jewish shill instead of defending my position.

>They aren't attacking us. They are attacking these strawman that anglin wilfully let himself be. They aren't attacking our beliefs about immigration or islam. They are attacking some pathetic gook who thinks going to MSM and being the caricutre they want is good.

So what are the positions he advocates which fail to live up to your standards?

>The narrative, they need to frame it in a way that won't allow the discussions that need to happen to happen.

Like by getting us to attack everyone with opinions they don't like?

>Attacking our own people because I'm paranoid and neurotic isn't helping the enemy, I swear

Spencer is because he's a fame whore. Anglin doesn't talk to the press anymore.

You are an idiot.

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The battle fought by the "alt-right", people like Spencer and Anglin, isn't one for electing politicians, but a battle for people's minds, specially the new generation. And I can tell you, the right wing is winning, and winning big league.

Why would they attack the sacred of the new generation? All they are doing is showing how the media works, but it leaves the question still open to those minds why would anglin do that? Why would he actively promote an association that was so harmful?

>(((Daily Stormer)))

Stop pushing this shit, nobody wants to be associated with these clowns

If you like government control and fascism to eradicate degeneracy, yes

If you like liberty and Ron Paul, no.

>Why would he actively promote an association that was so harmful?

Because that is the association we eventually NEED to push if we want to win. We have prehaps two decades before the left imports enough low IQ nonwhites to build a mass of client voters that makes them unassailable, regardless of how redpilled the white Gen Z is.

You need to face this fact.

Civic nationalism is good for us. You know why?

Because eventually, anyone in that camp is going to look around and realize it's all white people. And then their journey to the Dark Side is completed.


> but a battle for people's minds, specially the new generation. And I can tell you, the right wing is winning, and winning big league.

SO we strike while the iron is hot, and push as hard as we can while the enemy is in disarray.

Anglin still courts the press. This pewdiepie shit is him potentially poisoning a generation against us because they will associate us as also the bad guys to their fun.

>And how well are those attacks working? If you remember the past two election cycles, the media is clearly losing the control it had then.

You are justifying a parasite existence as being okay even it doesn't kill something. Trump administration has to constantly battle these idiots associating themselves with Trump and it lets the media maintain narrative that Trump needs to waste energy to combat.

>So here's a question; who don't you want to purge? What white nationalists are good enough for you?

The ones who do not wilfully become useful idiots for the MSM.

>So what are the positions he advocates which fail to live up to your standards?

Read the OP. He fails in his pathetic pattern of being a useful idiot for the MSM.

>Like by getting us to attack everyone with opinions they don't like?

No, you got it wrong. They need the boogie man, their strawman that they know how to defeat, which anglin so willingly play, in order to not confront other frames which they would otherwise have to confront given that Trump will force those policies upon us.

I don't think the DSAutismos get how cancerous they are. You are regurgitating copypasta used to justify anglin and spencer courtship with the media when Trump was campaigning.

>caring about the opinion of the liberal kike media atll
>even once

Did you learn nothing from Trump?

>trump won in spite of the MSM
Yes, and that's because the MSM is the enemy, and not merely people who disagree. Trump threatned their (((interests))), so they attacked him with everything they got. Trump never cared about what they said, he never went back on anything he promised, or even attacked the targets set by the MSM. Remember David Duke? Trump could have gone on a tirade about how bad Duke is, and how much better and different he is, but he didn't do that. Remember when Pence was asked if he considered Duke a deplorable? He said he wasn't the type to insult people. That's the new strategy, refusing to be the left's attack dog.

You're saying you don't want to compromise, but you also say that some discourse needs to be kept out of the playing field, or the left will attack.

>they're atfacking these strawman that wilfully let himself be
Exactly, at most the left is distracted by chasing shadows. When Hillary was talking about Pepe, she could have been giving a speech to Rust Belt unemployees. But she prefered to attack a cartoon frog. That was a good thing.

There doesn't need to be a focus on the issues, because there's no need to have the left's opinion on anything. They're there to be defeated, not listened to, and having their lies taken into account.

The media is talking about Pepe, Pewdiepie and Anglin? Good, it keeps the heat out of Trump's back, and he can pass legislation and reform with less harassment.
Meanwhile, attention is being given to people who could use it. And when you have people discussing how outraging it is to defend a Jewish genocide, Trump's Muslim ban doesn't sound that bad. That's how it works, that's the Overton Window, the far-right is pushing it for the good of the entire right.

you suck at greentext, I'm starting to suspect you're not /ourguy/ either

>Because that is the association we eventually NEED to push if we want to win. We have prehaps two decades before the left imports enough low IQ nonwhites to build a mass of client voters that makes them unassailable, regardless of how redpilled the white Gen Z is.

No, this is bull shit. You are rationalizing parasitism because the parasite doesn't kill the host and thus must be okay. I am not saying that we shouldn't red pill gen z. I am saying that we can't if we let useful idiots like anglin become the caricature (do you know what this word means?) they so desperately need. What anglin did was take down someone important to gen z for his own selfish interests.

Do you see what is happening with Trump right now? Do you even live in america? Do you have to defend Trump? Trump won in spite of the parasitism.


>Remember David Duke? Trump could have gone on a tirade about how bad Duke is, and how much better and different he is, but he didn't do that. Remember when Pence was asked if he considered Duke a deplorable? He said he wasn't the type to insult people. That's the new strategy, refusing to be the left's attack dog.

What a BS lie. Trump has a history of attacking David Duke.


>The media is talking about Pepe, Pewdiepie and Anglin? Good, it keeps the heat out of Trump's back, and he can pass legislation and reform with less harassment.

Passing legislation can be unpassed in the next government you fucking retard. You need to establish the legitimacy for it in order for it to persist, you can't do that if the media just covers distractions.

>There doesn't need to be a focus on the issues, because there's no need to have the left's opinion on anything. They're there to be defeated, not listened to, and having their lies taken into account.


GEN Z experience with this

>MSM attacks pewdiepie
>MSM says pewdiepie is a WN
>gen z doesn't think so
>MSM says its because anglin told them so
>gen z see media as liars for believing anglin
>gen z sees anglin as scum for lying about pewdiepie

how does this escape you?

>You are justifying a parasite existence as being okay even it doesn't kill something.

I don't see how he's a parasite. You say he's a media whore, but I disagree, and I've seen no real arguments in favor of that position other than the initial assertion.

Spencer has been doing this since 2010, and has only recently become widely know.

>Trump administration has to constantly battle these idiots

The problem is that Trump doesn't go far enough. He hasn't touched Legal nonwhite immagration, and as long as that's in place, we're on a countdown to Brazil.

So we need to pull further right.

>The ones who do not wilfully become useful idiots for the MSM.

Please give me names. This is a non-answer, because I have no idea what your metric is.

>Read the OP. He fails in his pathetic pattern of being a useful idiot for the MSM.

And I simply do not agree with the claim. You see someone doing something haram, and I see someone pushing the envelope in the direction it needs to move, while doing no real harm because the media spears everyone they don't like as hard as they can.

ITT: shitskins and kikes who are tricking redditors and newfags that advocating to not be minority in our own homeland makes you a "shill"

>why would he promote an association that's so harmful

That's how meme magic is working, if you believe it, it becomes true. You believe that associating Pewdiepie with the Daily Stormer is harmful, but it's only harmful if you and everyone else believe it is.

What is actually happening, is that Pewdiepie isn't being hurt at all. His popularity keeps going up, even though the media is saying he's over.

The media wants to force memes. It's what they did to Trump, how many times did they proclaim that Trump's campaign is over, that the electorate hated him, that he had no chance? Nothing of it was true, because enough people decided not to believe the media's lies. You think Pewdiepie is being harmed, I don't think so, and if enough people don't think so either, he won't be.

You break the media's power if you chose to simply disagree and not side with them.

>You believe that associating Pewdiepie with the Daily Stormer is harmful, but it's only harmful if you and everyone else believe it is.


YOU ARE A LEGIT IDIOT. This isn't how meme magic works, especially if people believe anglin was responsible for tricking the media into hurting pewdiepie.

>You break the media's power if you chose to simply disagree and not side with them.

They can hate the media and hate us too. You guys did friendly fire and want to pretend the media did it.

>You think Pewdiepie is being harmed, I don't think so, and if enough people don't think so either, he won't be.

People believe he lost income from sponsorship. People believe the media is attacking him. People believe anglin tricked the media into attacking him. How will people ever believe angin is the good guy?

>I am saying that we can't if we let useful idiots like anglin become the caricature (do you know what this word means?) they so desperately need.

Yes. I'm not an idiot like you.

I simply reject your characterization. Anglin holds no positions which I see as excessively extreme.

>Trump won in spite of the parasitism.

No, he won in spite of cucks like you and McCain punching right.

>Passing legislation can be unpassed in the next government you fucking retard. You need to establish the legitimacy for it in order for it to persist, you can't do that if the media just covers distractions.

So then what the fuck should we be doing, oh wise and merciful master?

>how does this escape you?

Because you assume these people see what Anglin says as equal to what CNN says. They saw CNN go on the attack, and that's the First Impression.

What should have been done, if you're so perfect?

No, I think the current idiot is actually arguing that opposing white dispossession actually makes you a useful idiot for the people pushing white dispossession.

Not sure, though. He's not particularly coherent.


How did Anglin trick the media into attacking him? Have you even been paying attention, ShariaBlue? Anglin jumped on well after the whole controversy had begun.

>Anglin holds no positions which I see as excessively extreme.

Learn2read: i said Anglin positions aren't the problem. The problem is that Anglin is an attention whore who serves the useful idiot to MSM and he is a parasite because he and his followers will never acknowledge this.

Your last point is a jump in logic. Pewdiepie's fanbase doesn't attack Anglin, if anything they attack the media again for using the so convenient fake news that Anglin prepared for them.
After all, it's as if Anglin was playing along Pewdiepie's joke.

Though, this goes deeper than that, because we're not at a level where Pewdiepie's fanbase would desert him over rumours of him really believing in the jokes. It's hard to explain, but it's not about what Pewdiepie really believes or not, it's about trolling and how much he can get away with.

Gen Z is very traditionalist, and are open to ideas of White Nationalism. When they see their childhood idol saying related to WN, and being attracted to it, their reaction is be interested in WN, instead of hating their idol.

It's a battle of ideas, the more heated it is the better, because the right-wing is winning.

In case you haven't noticed, Pewdiepie isn't doing this just for a "joke". He at least browses Sup Forums, which he wouldn't do if he was bluepilled.

You know that video where he talk about getting banned from Fiver again? At the end he says he's a greedy reptillian Jew, the words flash on the screen. He calls out Fiver's owners as being Jewish. He says Jews found out another way to screw Jesus over. The video is also 14:53 minutes long, that is, 14.88 minutes. (53/60 = .88)

>Gen Z is very traditionalist, and are open to ideas of White Nationalism. When they see their childhood idol saying related to WN, and being attracted to it, their reaction is be interested in WN, instead of hating their idol.


you believe this while your /good guy/ tricked the media to hurt pewdiepie.

>In case you haven't noticed, Pewdiepie isn't doing this just for a "joke". He at least browses Sup Forums, which he wouldn't do if he was bluepilled.

Browsing pol vs DS, which is a money making outfit for anglin.

>you believe this while your /good guy/ tricked the media to hurt pewdiepie.

[citation needed]

aglin is a jew

>if people believe anglin [...]
Then how about we just don't believe the media at all, when they says Pewdiepie was hurt by Anglin? They don't have any proofs for this claim, they want it to be true so they say it's true, but it isn't.

>People believe he lost income from sponsorship. People believe the media is attacking him. People believe anglin tricked the media into attacking him. How will people ever believe angin is the good guy?

And do his fanbase care about the media attacking him? No, his viewership and subscribers keep going up. His viewers sided with him over the media. That's becausr the only people who care about Pewdiepie news are Pewdiepie fans, and they prefer Pewdiepie over the media.

Why would they be angry at Anglin, if Pewdiepie didn't lose popularity at all? It's the media that's trying to destroy Pewdiepie, and he keeps going because he knows the media won't destroy him.

For fuck's sake, he was saying "Death to all Jews" on camera. If he was willing to play that as a joke, he's fine with the DS changing their banner from "#1 Republican news website" to "#1 Pewdiepie fanclub".

Pewdiepie isn't angry at Anglin, the fanbase isn't angry at Anglin. You're angry at Anglin, because you perceive him as hurting Pewdiepie. But the only people who can decide if Pewdiepie is hurt or not is his fanbase, it's entirely up to them. And the majority isn't outraged by Pewdiepie's jokes, they disagree with the media, and they don't care about Anglin.

>And do his fanbase care about the media attacking him? No, his viewership and subscribers keep going up. His viewers sided with him over the media. That's becausr the only people who care about Pewdiepie news are Pewdiepie fans, and they prefer Pewdiepie over the media.


This is a lie you believe to justify the parasitism you witnessed

His fanbase saw him cry. His fanbase saw him attacked by the media with lies. His fanbase also will be exposed to the lie of the media, a lie which the media says Anglin confirms.

It doesn't matter what he said on camera. It matters, to his fan base, who attacked their idol and why and the answer to those two questions is: MSM, and anglin trolling them.

The media wasn't tricked into attacking Pewdiepie. They attacked him because his anti-semitic jokes were normalizing anti-semitism among his audience.

The media isn't that dumb. You think that if The Daily Stormer claimed to be a fan of Elizabeth Warren, and that she's secretely a nazi, the media would attack her?

The media attacks Pewdiepie because he's a threat, you can't have people making anti-semitic jokes, that must be kept taboo. So they fired every bullet they had at him, most of those willfully crafted by Pewdiepie. Anglin just gave them another bullet.

And you know why that's a good thing? Because they're shooting full auto at their own feet, and ruining their own credibility.

>The media isn't that dumb. You think that if The Daily Stormer claimed to be a fan of Elizabeth Warren, and that she's secretely a nazi, the media would attack her?

The media need useful idiots like Anglin to attribute a joke with worser intent. Do you get how that works? Angling is the useful idiot they seek to create an association.

>the media needs useful idiots
No they don't. Because they're liars, they can just manufacture attacks if they don't have anything. See Trump's "scandals", the media will just make up that Trump got pissed on by prostitutes paid by Putin.

The media's job isn't to publish the truth, their job is to protect their own (((interests))), no matter what. They will lie, cheat, and much worse. That's why people barely believe in them anymore.

I've learned over the years that it is not possible to even come close to becoming /our guy/ on Sup Forums.
Sup Forums will inevitably label ANYONE who comes out publicly as pro-white people as either a government plant or a controlled opposition shill for the kikes.
Individual Sup Forumsacks should just keep watching or listening to whoever you like and not asking if they are Sup Forums approved, but they never will be.

And yet it is okay for Anglin to be a useful idiot, or for richard spencer to do the same?

I don't think you care how Anglin affects anyone but his own namefaggotry.

i know that, but my issue is why does anglin wilfully shit where we eat? And the response from a few posters is that anglin is great, he dindu nuffin, he is good, he is fighting the jew, he needs more support.