So, lately, I was thinking, how westerners as a whole feel about Russia

The easiest answer probably would be a blind hate, but I don't think it's a case. I don't think that many people actually hate Russia. But it's still a predominantly negative view. After few years of observing and interactions, I think I'm able to pinpoint general gist. Here is my humble opinion.

West treats Russia as a rat infestation. Like their nice, beautiful house, unfortunately, got unwanted occupants. They shit everywhere, they slowly destroy your house inside out, ruin foundation with their digging. You got a terrible smell in your house, they are hosts to the dangerous diseases, disrupt your sleep with noises, they steal your food and generally unpleasant to be around. Horrible, isn't it? Surely you will want to remove them.

You really can't just nuke whole house and be done with it. You've gotta live somewhere after all. It would be hard to manually kill each rat, they are sneaky, smart, hide in unreachable places and can breed at dangerous rates. There must be a smart approach. So you hire a specialist to deal with the problem, you starve them out, place traps, make their live impossible with the poison and toxins, there are many ways to deal with them "cleanly". If you are progressive, intelligent person you really don't feel hate toward them. Fuck, rats actually are pretty rad pets. But in small counts. Basically nothing personal, just removing the problem for the greater good.

Nothing personal. This is a good approach. One that makes you sleep nicely after a long, tiresome day.

Thoughts?

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I always figured Russians were alright. At the very least, you were in no way worse than us, just kind of on the opposite side at the time.

I'd want you guys as allies, but I'd settle for polite neighbours. Hope the next few years are good to us.

Yeah, that's accurate.

Only now the man of the house decides suddenly he doesn't want to do anything about the rats, and, in fact, wants to begin feeding them, not finding that their infestation is making everyone's lives worse. Whether this is because he is a fool or there is a tiny rat in his brain pulling all the switches, the end result is everything gets shittier with no end in sight.

most americans think you are a bunch of drunks dieing from drinking mafia vodka that is tainted

every russian man i have met is a tool bag that lives in some fake machismo character and every russian female acts like she watched her dad die in front of her as a child and she will never feel happiness again

stop violating sovereign canadian territory with russian military
you will pay regardless, but you're only making it worse on yourselves
when canada is done morphing itself into the proverbial butterfly of civilization from this cocoon of post-national society russia will be the first to submit beneath our fabulous light

Speaking as an American, I don't think most of us think about Russia much at all. (Media does, for the moment, because they see it as a weapon to use against Trump.)

Western politicians enjoyed the fuck out of the 1990s when the Soviet Union collapsed, "shock therapy" capitalism left people in poverty and Clinton could do things like order NATO to bomb Serbia while Primakov was actually in an airplane on his way to Washington (he turned around).

They more attack because they dislike having to compromise rather than make unilateral decisions. Like that bombing, which never would happen today.

If you have a direct line with Putin, though, tell him to quit fucking around with ex-KGB retards (who no one trusts anyway) and Soros-backed "journalists" like Masha Gessen. If he took out picture related with a few grams of plutonium, he'd be hailed as a hero.

>burgers didn't listen / read

gg, russkies

Sad, but also hopeful.

If Russia can be the Hammer of the Slavs instead of hammering against them, I'd be all for them. A sturdy Slavic continent, central to east Eurasia, could mitigate the control of Western Europe and the Middle East.

Fuck Turkey and Germany; long live the Slav Race.

Well, if average American only ever sees negativity about Russia in media and maybe some wacky dashcam footage, wouldn't he subconsciously have a negative opinion about Russia? So it would be a really easy to fall for confirmation bias.

Yeah, looking from your viewpoint it's really easy to understand your motivations.

Actually senpai, I don't think about you slav niggers at all.

i worked at a company filled with russians once, they're the most nihilistic no-fucks-to-give people on earth

there's no hate, more like "wtf russia, srsly?"

We're Americans, we really don't think about other countries. The average American never visits one and doesn't even have a passport.

The only thing we care about when it comes to foreign policy is "stopping terrorism."

The few encounters I'd had with slav niggers were shitty.

As a small kid when the wall fell, a bunch of slav niggers came into our public school. These faggots did not assimilate. They dressed like fags, like seriously odd fashion. They had retarded personalities. They smelled like shit. And they all pretended to be in the Russia Mafia. Faggots.

As I got older, Russians teens still never assimilated. Blinged like a bunch of niggers. Drove shitty BMWs or nigger tier luxury cars. They would never fist fight but they'd do crazy shit like shootup a house party they were kicked out of or other Russian keky stuff like that. They were hyper aggressive but everyone, especially women thought they were faggots.

Stupid Russian Faggots. That said, I don't give a fuck about Russia.

I like Russian, no communism. Russia has always had a nice history and I have a thing for the Tzar Nicholas the Great.

Russia and North America need to become friends. Why? Because of prophecy. Not until the two northern brothers, who are not yet brothers, become brothers and rule the world or destroy it.

You are exactly right.

Honestly, I just view Russia as the US's enduring global rival. However, I don't think that that rivalry need be inherently negative, as it has been for many years. I think that it is possible to maintain a healthy, mutually beneficial rivalry that pushes both parties to seek excellence through one-upping each other. I don't believe that the US and Russia can ever truly be friends or outright allies, but that is okay. I think there must be a healthy medium between Cold War and being butt buddies that will help both our nations in the long term.

Disregarding the government, I also don't really have any cause to hate the Russians as a people, so that probably helps me to be more open to warming relations a bit.

you started a war with us based on lies. how do you think that makes us feel about you?

also its always some russian faggot who steals from others in vidyagaems.

also your country seems more like a penal colony than an actual country, based on what iv''e seen on the net.

oh yeah and that rape thing? that that "army of rapists"? Quite horrible. Horrible.

But the US is already good on its own. They are the strongest country in the world, already got many friends, why they would want to be friends with the Russia? I don't see any tangible benefits actually, only a downsides. They would want to start accounting for Russian views, share and lose influence here and there. Besides, can you really turn around your train after being in the Cold War for so long and both sides being involved in backstabbing against each and other dirty business? Hell, it even goes back further than that. There is blood on our hands.

As far as I see, your government would be happy to whack us on the head, but afraid of the possible chain reaction that could lead to a nuclear war. So they act cautiously and tip-toe around the MAD. You even can argue that 90's for Russia were shitty because you wanted it to be shitty, i.e just letting a Russians go full retard. Plus nuclear disarmament deal and NATO missile defence system hints at the attempt to eventually circumvent MAD and fall back to the good old conventional war. Or pushing Russia around the world, expelling her from her sphere of interests and slowly choking her and surrounding with enemies. Or trying to shake the boat to start a revolution against the current Russian government and possibly installing a friendly western puppet. Another revolution in a such short timeframe would be horrible for the Russia.

I was kinda hopeful about being friends and such because I always liked west and admired your culture, but as each year passes, I'm becoming more and more sceptical. The whole debacle around Trump was interesting and kinda sparked the old flame again, but as time goes on I start doubting again. As far as I can see, everything actually become much worse. Even remotely being associated with Russia is enough to fall under the scrutiny and everything happening around various political figures around the world remind about good ol' McCarthyism. There is gag reflex.

Americans don't see Russians as negative, simply as rivals.

Russians are just not very good at diplomacy. They ignore soft power for the sake of hard power, and they don't trust anyone that is not directly on their payroll.

>I was kinda hopeful about being friends and such because I always liked west and admired your culture, but as each year passes, I'm becoming more and more sceptical. The whole debacle around Trump was interesting and kinda sparked the old flame again, but as time goes on I start doubting again.

Same here. I thought it would be great to get a long with Russia, after everyone who's a little older grew up their entire lives under the threat of nuclear war, but sadly it's just not meant to be.

And yeah things have gotten worse. Now just visiting Russia 12 years ago will get you called a spy in the jewish press.

I enjoyed Hardcore Henry and videos like this:

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I liked Putin's photo ops with the baby tigers. Better than Obooboo with his mutt.

I love my SAIGA.
I hope we can be allies again.
With courage, someday it will happen.

Rivalry not always can be positive for the both sides, especially when a losing hand starts suffering from its defeats. Ideally, both sides would give it all, elevate each other to the new heights, while having maybe a begrudging respect to each other. But it's also can mutate into the disgusting form where both sides actually start to hate each other and start to play dirty, escalating the odds (eye for an eye) and ultimately morphing into ultimate enemies where it can only end with the ultimate demise of one party.

I don't really think it's accurate.

View of Russians among people I know is that they are basically mad cunts with underrated intelligence who occasionally act overly anti-social and aggressive. Nothing too bad considering your avg Aussie bogan.

I met a russian girl at school, actually. she was really cool, VERY fucking feisty, like, holy shit. But not a whore, just,kind of how I would think of Catherine the great. A huge flirt, but kind of powerful about it. Anyway, she wasn't depressed or acted like her dad died. She was quite excited about life.

Ive met some Ukranian dudes who were very intelligent and based as fuck, but so far the russians Ive met match your description. Then again, they were from an older generation.

>slav
>race

pick one

>mfw we'll never be friends

Moses knew it takes 40 years for the people who lived as slaves to die off. Almost 30 since the fall of the soviet union and its multicultural marxist paradigm has passed, 10 more to go.

Fuck off chink

Russia has been historically treated as outcast by western powers.
Even during semi-colonization of China, Russia was excluded by instigation of UK.

He creates these threads ona daily basis.

It's not blind hate, it's CIA/MSM posturing and public propaganda because you're a global competitor to american hegemony over the world.

I hope this helps you understand why the "west" "hates" you.

I lived & worked in East Europe for nearly a decade, had to deal with slavshit vodka niggers daily.

My hatred of Russians is based upon the fact that, after nearly ten years living around you fucking vodka niggers, there was not a single one I met that wasn't criminal scum. Can't name one redeeming feature of any Russian I ever met, and I had to deal with hundreds of them.

True bottom feeders, the sort of scavenger you find crawling around in a sewer, sifting through rivers of liquid shit looking for partially undigested kernels of grain. Can't recall a single situation where a Russian contributed anything, only tried to steal what they could and destroy what they couldn't steal just for the joy in watching other people lose what little they had.

Statistically, I should have met at least a few that weren't disgusting, degenerate subhumans.

Nope.jpg.

That's not blind hatred, it's not ignorance, it's not brainwashing with propaganda. It's long, extensive and painful first-hand experience. I'd rather live with niggers than Russians.

Yes, I have lived with niggers. They are generally better and far more decent & honorable people than any single Russian I ever met in my life.

Tbh, it's not even surprising. It's fucked up that I can't really disagree with any of that because there is decent chance that all has actually happened. I guess being late to abolish serfdoms of backwards monarchy, going through two world wars, civil war, revolutions, USSR and collapse of 90's is going to muddy up your nation. I hope someday you will meet a good side of our country.

No one hates you here. No one loves you here. No one gives a shit.

The view of Russia is basically this: Russia should be the most powerful country on the planet by virtue of geography alone, yet you are collectively miserable dumb fucking failures with a GDP similar to SPAIN. Most of you will blame America and the West for this, even though this was the case your entire history, before and after communism.

The basic Russian serf is a fatalistic loser and will remain ruled by oligarchs who don't even live in Russia and don't even give a shit about Russia.This whole thread is evidence of that. Sorry Ivan.

I'm 30. My grandpa was a longtime intelligence vet of the cold war. And I just HAD to see Russia. Esp Baikal & Siberia.

I loved it. The people reminded me more of Americans 50 years ago based on what I know than anywhere else I've been.

People were sometimes rude, often kind and almost always emotionally honest.

Weird thing is. I have as yet to see Russians portrayed in a positive light by western media even once.

They are always the scary bad guys. Muslims, Africans, Chinese ... They all have their good moments but not Russians.

They always play the role of scariest white people.

I have no reason to hate Russia. I welcome closer ties between our two countries. Better you guys than the Jews, mudslimes or niggers. Better than half of western Europe actually.

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hot chicks and alcoholic low IQ dudes. historically, got jewed almost as bad as Germany. I am generally sympathetic to their current goals on the world stage in politics.

thats about all I have ever thought of Russia.

>Yes, I have lived with niggers. They are generally better and far more decent & honorable people than any single Russian I ever met in my life.
Found the cuck

To me, it looks like a different world. I imagine most things are probably less regulated, like you could probably produce alcohol and sell it without paying for a license. It's architecture makes me think twice about ancient alien theories. All the russians I've known irl have always kept to themselves.

Don't hate Russia, our media uses you as a scapegoat though.

I recently watched the first John Wick movie. Honestly, I cringed pretty hard when I saw Alfie Allen trying to play edgy slav thug with that horrible Hollywood accent. It's pretty funny actually, everybody in the film is a complete douchebag, criminal scum but still, American(?) characters all got that romanticised side to them, like John with his family and that dog or other lawful evil criminals. But even surrounded by a filth Russians managed to out scum everybody else.

Fun movie though.

interesting history but things went downhill after the bolsheviks seized power

seems like communism fucking destroyed your country, but even before then, from reading literature in that time, everything was just fucked all the time. I love your literature. I don't know how your common people are, I suspect they're much the same as ours, mostly flying by the seat of their pants on the castles (or lack of them) that their fathers and grandfathers built. in the end, most of us are meat for the grinder. Probably the best people died in the second world war. The rest of us will be of little use. I hope Russian and US relations can grow into some camaraderie in the future, but as it is now, it's not what's popular in the media.

You've got it wrong. It's globalist who hate Russia, not westerners. Westerners think Russia is all right.

>blind hate

nah, i watched from the sidelines as the whole engineered coup in ukraine went down. now i watch as russia/iran/lebanon are the only ones fighting isis and al qaeda.

if russians could fix their drug and alcohol problems, they'd go a long ways.

why is this post dying? byump

I guess decades of oppressing the eastern europe has earned you some hate.
Also Russian imperialism is pure poison.

Probably because it's stupid. I mostly made it to formulate my thoughts and get stuff off my chest. Nobody is willing to listen to blabbering retard like me in the real life.

Putin is a Judo master

I believe he is true center interventionist
he would have proved himself greater than Hillary in whatever "war" she would have waged, but fortunately Trump won

Because it was easy to portray Russia as a villain. Its not easy to make a bunch of sand niggers in mud huts with kalashnikovs seem like much of a threat and there's not enough espionage potential to make it even the slightest bit interesting. Even China, who would be the obvious choice for a villain, you can't make in to one because of the stupid amount of Western reliance on them.

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