Hey Sup Forums, I want to beat depression without using meds. (They just keep me on the up and up...

Hey Sup Forums, I want to beat depression without using meds. (They just keep me on the up and up, but they do not fix my depression)

Any advice? What worked for you?

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stop caring about being depressed

I think I'm making it, though I decided to never take medication for it due to the (((unintended side effects))) Exercise can help, and try and get out more if you're stuck inside.

Try something called 5-HTP.
Mix it with some theanine if your anxious too.

Does exercise really help? And I can see getting out more does help when I'm with my GF...

cycling daily. true shit, it works out all frustrations, anger, depression, and you're outside in the fresh air seeing places and nature.

Whats that?

I may try that... idk tho.

Read the book The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck by Mark Monson

work out and study,

>FUCK UR FEELINGS

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I find that it can help, even if it's a little. Though I wonder if the meds you are taking are doing more to hinder you rather than help.

I wonder that too. I feel that I have a withdraw episode when I stop taking my ADHD and Depression meds for a few days.

5HTP is a non essential amino acid and
l-theanine is a compound found in teas n' shit.

5HTP will raise your serotonin levels without all the crap side effects from pharmaceuticals. Things like a limp dick, zombie-mode and etc.

I cant remember exactly what L-theanine does. But I know it works wonders for all types of anxiety.

I'm on both of these after having no success with antidepressants.

beat depression, change your lifestyle (as in change your whole environment if you can into a more positive one), exercise does help as it increases energy and releases natural endorphins.

I don't know many, I've had depression since I was 13, you kind of accept it and numb out of it, unless you go the other way.

This. The key to living a happy life is not giving a fuck. It's hard to actually follow this advice at first, but repetition, and doing crazy shit sometimes will get you there. It's all good man, life gets down on you sometimes, but it'll be all good, you live in America

I imagine you'll just have to force yourself through it, it will feel tough getting through the withdrawal symptoms, but if you can get yourself off them so you're not reliant on them then that's got to be a good thing. In the meantime distract yourself with other things, maybe you could consider counselling for cognitive behavioural therapy, something like that.

Smoking weed helped me. But I'm naturally introspective and it amplified that, allowing me to take a better look at my life and gain insights I otherwise wouldn't have. If it doesn't do that for you of course it won't help.
And working out. Helps a lot to make you feel better in general.

I want to be a priest and fight the evil I see in the world. But if I go off meds, I get suicidal and emotional. I cannot change where I live, I sleep on the floor on two dog beds at where I work, my parents divorced, I'm a Community College, I want my depression gone.

My family thinks that my meds will eventually fix me. I doubt it highly.

Took care of my issues, the anger and little depression I had, and it helped me as a replacement for smoking. Best thing I ever did.

Found some cool areas around here I never knew even existed either.

Does running or something else help more in relation to working out?

>eating clean
>not being fat
>being /fit/ and non sedentary
>having enough testosterone and also stimulating it with sports
>stable income, housing and security
>enough social stuff
>female mate...
>some form of philosophical fulfillment

If you do these, then you will be happy.

Running gets your serotonin levels back to the right amounts at the right times.

this, and stop caring about anything that way you can do whatever and enjoy life

keep taking meds. theyre not supposed to cure your depression, they give you a foundation that helps you get out of depression yourself

Fuck the meds. Your depressed because you hate yourself. A pill will not fix it. Only way out is hard work. Get fit. Get your life in order. Get money.

google nsi-189

Nope, We're not all the same. could literally give a fuck about these things.

>Does exercise really help?
Yes

nope only for a moment.

OP, just don't care about anything and melt with the universe. We're all just fucking the same matter that's going to be recycled. That's the nature of this universe. Enjoy the time you have and dont give a fuck.

Do what you already know will work, but are too lazy to do it.

>less screen time (TV, computer, ect.)
>Less or no porn
>exercise, exercise, exercise
>eat healthy foods, cut out soda, high fat foods, ect.
>Get a real hobby (not vidya, movie buff, music buff, lame shit like that)
>Stop drinking, smoking pot, doing recreational drugs.

It works.

You're welcome.

Go find a real woman, meet her family, have them accept you as a son and then get married.

What do when you have really bad social anxiety, the feel of no gf makes you feel lonely abd hopeless, whilst you are good looking your self esteem is in shambles you start to resent yourself and insult yourself. I give so much of a fuck about how im percieved to others that I cant connect with them and get awkward and then hate myself some more. Im in a negative spiral. I think ive internalized social rejection from when I was young and it plays on repeat in my head.

lies. Long term,the effects are more noticeable than anything any pharmaceutical would give you.

5 years ago i was overweight coming off a depression that started when i was 13,i was 22 when i decided to just take up running.

That was the best thing i've ever done that helped more than any pill.

Endorphines help in the short term,sure but long term exercise helps more than anything else really could. and its free to do so...

Its gotten worse since quitting weed. Thinking about going back on it to calm down my mind

Yes, this is actually excellent advise.You have to develop coping mechanisms. Tell yourself your too intelligent to allow yourself to be depressed.

>>less screen time (TV, computer, ect.)
>>Less or no porn
>>exercise, exercise, exercise
>>eat healthy foods, cut out soda, high fat foods, ect.
>>Get a real hobby (not vidya, movie buff, music buff, lame shit like that)
>>Stop drinking, smoking pot, doing recreational drugs.

best post right here

the truth

Do not do this.

Ever.

but i'd add to do one every month, don't try to them all at once

Stay busy, work out, clean your house, do productive things.

I'm healthy and don't matter how much i workout i still look good on average. The workout makes zero sense for me, maybe because i have a good genetic. I can workout 1 time a week and still look fit and strong. Some years back i was in the gym 4-6 times a week and did that for 1-2 years and the enjoyment lasted only for a moment because don't see the point. Maybe it's works on you because you want to look fit, but people like me don't really need it and i don't see the point.

Just do like this and you need some
youtube.com/watch?v=h9wl7Acmcj0

also go to 2 boxing technique/fitness type sessions, trusss me.

their literally is no cure, its literally in your head, you either take the pills and live with the side effects, or you accept that you will always be depressed like I have. Its not that bad really once you accept it. You're going to want to die constantly but just don't kill yourself.

Go do what this user says. Stop being lazy. STOP THINKING ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS. You have trained yourself to pay the most attention to depressive emotions and now you done fucked your head up. Participate in healthy activity to take your mind off those thoughts. Positive emotions will come naturally.

I literally cant stop my mind
Weed allows me to stop and actually think about shit. I feel im running out of options.

>tfw she probably doesnt feel the same way about you
>tfw you can't say anything about how you feel directly
>tfw you do perfectly fine with girls but don't want them
>tfw the one girl you want more than anything is so close but so far
Why does this effect me so much? Is this the same for any of you guys?

Depression is highly linked with gut inflammation and inflammation in general.

Try to change your lifestyle and diet towards an anti inflammatory one.

Regular physical activity, lots of sun, clean water, fresh veggies, green leafy veggies, good fatty acid like avocado, coconut oil, fresh fruits, fatty fish.

You could start with an enema (large) to clean your large intestine, then continue with a 3 days fastening, after that you carefully built up your gut bacteria with lots of fermented foods and said activities. While fasting drink clean water and consume sun light.

It has been proven that there is enough evidence to strongly suggest a gut-brain axis.
Do your own research.

Also do not underestimate the importance of social activity and meaningful work and relationship.

Try Prof. Dr. Joran Petersons "Sort yourself out" Selfauthoring suit.

Maybe you lack micronutrients.
Do make Serotonin in our brain we crucially need Omega 3 fatty acids and magnesium.
Take supplements research Dr. Ronda Patrick.
Amazing scientist.

Be of good faith. You are here for a reason you. user. Consider to study religion.

Best of luck.

>fight the evil I see in the world

Sounds like a plan.

Tfw to intelligent to be ruled by emotions

Most things suck. Most people are unhappy. Accept it and move on with your life. Make conscious, healthy decisions. The chon really doesn't help.

Being happy is a choice.

Thank you user. This means a lot to me. I want to fight the good fight for the Catholic Faith.

Take cold showers

I live in ohio so its hills and farmland and rivers+woods so I love it when I can. riding in nature is way better than riding on sidewalks in some fucking city

Just stop giving a fuck about giving a fuck.

In all seriousness, dont jerk off for 2 weeks.
Thats it.

meditation.

read some nietzshe as well if you have an iq above 95

also quit porn


evrything tha you need is in this message but you fag dont have the willpower to do it.
got to crash and burn first.

good luck

increase T levels

oh yeah and you have to cut out evrything out of your life that inspires nihilism etc.

from holyjew to depressing music to edge lords in your friend circle (if you have any)

Diet and exercise my man. Stop eating processed foods, cut out as much sugar as possible, and start eating fruits and vegetables if you aren't already. Get more fiber to feed your gut bacteria and try stuff like broccoli sprouts to fight inflammation (brain inflammation can induce depressive symptoms). Broccoli sprouts also have shown promise in improving the symptoms of autism if taken in large enough quantities. Make a fruit & veggie shake once a day to keep things easy.

Then of course you need to start exercising. If you're fat, do cardio. If you're skinny lift weights and do cardio only once or twice per week. Seeing results is a great ego boost that can get me on my feet.
Physical health and mental health are closely related.
Buy a happy light for winters, and be sure to spend time in the sun when the weather permits. 30 minutes or so per day is enough. Getting your circadian cycle in order helps with mood and physical health, too.

I was on meds for 6 years before I started taking care of my physical health. Every winter the meds would stop working and I would become essentially nonfunctional. Eventually I started caring enough to lift weights and eat right, and it just got easier from there. Once you feel the results you will be motivated to try even harder.

The 21st century lifestyle is what makes (most) people depressed

Therapist helped me, but you have to want to talk to the therapist. If you feel you aren't making progress, stop going.

I went for a while, and then realized that I had gotten as far as I could, so going was futile. ymmv, but that's what worked for me.

read books about stoicism.

Good therapist + meditation

This is great advice

You did so well and then

>enema

Fucking Germans man.

Or get a gf.

I was thinking about this today, and the only solution is you.

Therapists help of you want them to help. If you yo go there thinking it won't work, most problably it won't.
Friends help distracting you, games, going out. But in the end is just you against your problems, you have to sit and face them. Might take weeks, might take months, years. But if you work on it you'll get better step by step, slowly

Hope that helps

Also this. But it has to be a good job or a good gf. If any of those are a complete mess, then it's gonna be worse

THIS FOR LURKERS

5HTP can be very effective in helping for anxiety, general mood, sleep and depression.

N Acetyl L Cysteine can also be effective for anxiety and depression symptoms.

Also recommend trying to take melatonin at low doses prior to sleep. A proper sleeping schedule / pattern is essential.

Exercise regularly, try cardiovascular / weight lifting, decide if you prefer one or do both.

If you are disciplined enough, try getting into short meditation sessions before bed. (youtube search guided meditation + whatever time limit you want(

Nutrition in general should also be noted. Take note of everything you eat and place it in your mind within its category.

Carbohydrate, Protein , Fat etc. This is a good way of subconsciously conditioning yourself to eat healthier by actually acknowledging what you are consuming.

You may have low testosterone levels so look into health supplements that keep that in check, Vitamins and minerals as well as food.

Set yourself goals and work towards them. If it's something in the gym like aiming to lift a certain amount or run / swim / walk a certain amount, whatever. Working towards and achieving goals is what provides us with (temporary) happiness.

Despite what a lot of people think, working can actually have a large impact on depression as well.

If you have been unemployed and find yourself sitting at the PC all day until bed, then repeat, then finding some even part time work will help massively.

Try getting a weekend job, maybe security at sports events if any are hosted nearby.

All the best to anyone reading and struggling. Stick with it. Make yourself better.

Fpbp. I've been on a couple different ones myself. If you're truly depressed they don't do shit.

If you have a shit job or gf then it will at least motivate to get a better one. It's at least enough to throw off your depression.

EAT A CAN OF SARDINES AT LEAST THREE TIMES A WEEK, DRINK A LITER OF SPRING WATER FROM GLASS BOTTLES DAILY , GET TO BED BEFORE MIDNIGHT AND GET OUT INTO THE AM SUNSHINE FOR AT LEAST AN HOUR EVERY DAY

Heard on some TED talks, that walking 30 minutes 3 times a week with sun light, had similar effectiveness as some anti-depressants
Some runing and nature are great for me

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YOU ARE VITAMIN D DEFICIENT AND YOUR SYMPTOMS ARE AGGRAVATED BY S.A.D.

THERE IS NO LIMIT TO THE AMOUNT OF VITAMIN D YOUR BODY CAN INGEST.

EAT D3 SUPPLEMENT PILLS LIKE CANDY.

LITERALLY HAPPY PILLS AND THEY ARE NOT MEDS.

Realize you will never be permanent let happy. Depression will always reside within you. Some days are better than others and some days are shit. Eat healthy and excersice and talk to people. Or kys

Work out, hang out with friends and try to do productive things. You'll feel much better.

Oh yeah also forgot Vitamin D supplement in the morning.

Don't take it prior to bed as it will keep you awake.

Take up running. Distance running.

go backpacking around the world and get back to me kid

pretty much.

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Locate a problem in your life. (I'm sure you have many) focus on one central one. Think about it a lot. Right your thoughts down (your mind alters your thoughts constantly but your thoughts on paper are unchanging and based in reality). Think about this problem and how it effects you from every angle you possibly can. Solve it.

See if you have any unhealthy addictions like porn, video games, internet ect and cutdown to a healthy amount or stop, try be outgoing and aim for a healthy diet.

Shit advice. Depression is a medical condition brought about by a nutrition deficiency or altered brain chemistry. It is NOT a frame of mind or something that needs to be talked through.

GOOD ADVICE. Do not take your body for granted just because you go to bed full every night.

Drink 128 oz of water per day. Eat a balanced diet. Wake up no later than 7AM every morning. Exercise 30 minutes per day.

Do this for 21 days straight NO excuses.

Post again if you are still depressed.

Iodine cures depression

Good advice

Water, sleep, exercise, have a hobby

Small achievements, get fit, get meaningful productive work or hobby. And QUIT DRINKING IF YOU DO. Seriously, alcohol is a powerful depressant, leave it to leftard scum.

Go to the closest catholic church and tell them you want to be a priest. They're so short on white young priests they will take you no questions asked

Bump for depressed anons.

Fapping causes depression you prick

meditation
read philosophy (Aurelius is a good place)

the problem is in your mind with depression

exercise and ginger root

blast your head with really powerful stimulants every day for 5 years, worked for me

and it probably led to this, dont give a fuck about anything any more, not even dying. so those negative thoughts gets answered with, who the fuck cares

alternatively i gave myself brain damage and am only happy because i am a retard now

You are actually correct. Over-stimulation caused by porn and addiction to masturbating does fuck the serotonin and dopamine receptors.

Stop masturbating.

Rope

>Depression is a medical condition brought about by a nutrition deficiency or altered brain chemistry

nah, and you know why?

depression rates are higher in first world countries than third world countries. why is this if your theory is true? this implies something with our culture and society that causes people to be depressed.

what you suggest he do is not bad advice.. but it won't magically cure depression if the problem is in his mind in the first place.

Hate can give you strength especially self hate

Gain weight and start lifting.