This "Pizzagate" conspiracy might be one of the dumbest things to hit Sup Forums in recent months. For the levelheaded users out there, it can be good to hear the rebuttal in this endless echo chamber.
Much of the purported evidence cited by the conspiracy theory's proponents had been taken from entirely different sources and made to appear as if they supported the conspiracy. Images of children of family and friends of the pizzeria's staff were taken from social media sites such as Instagram and claimed to be photos of victims.The Charlotte Observer noted the diverse group of sources that had debunked the conspiracy theory, pointing out this included the Fox News Channel in addition to The New York Times.
On December 10, 2016, The New York Times published an article that analyzed the claims that the theory proposed.They emphasized that:
The theory claimed "cheese pizza" was code for "child pornography," since the term had been used in this context previously on the website Sup Forums. This was extrapolated to other mentions of food in non-political emails. However, as the Times pointed out, the "Podesta brothers were famous in Washington circles for their Italian cooking and big salon and fund-raising dinners, often cooked by their mother."
Theorists linked the conspiracy to Comet Ping Pong, through similarities between company logos and symbols related to Satanism and pedophilia. However, The Times noted that striking similarities may also be found in the logos of a number of unrelated companies, such as AOL, Time Warner, and MSN. A photograph was circulated purporting to show President Barack Obama playing ping pong with a child inside Comet Ping Pong. The original picture hangs framed in the White House, where it was taken.
Theorists claimed an underground network beneath Comet Ping Pong; however, the restaurant actually has no basement, and the picture used to support this claim was taken from another facility.
Theorists claimed to have a picture of restaurant owner Alefantis wearing a T-shirt endorsing pedophilia. However, the image was of another person entirely, and the shirt, which read "J’ L’Enfant," was actually a reference to the L’Enfant Cafe-Bar in DC, whose owner was pictured in the image, and which itself was named after Pierre Charles L'Enfant, designer of much of the layout of Washington, DC. Theorists claimed John and Tony Podesta kidnapped Madeleine McCann using police sketches which were, in fact, two sketches of the same suspect taken from the descriptions of two eye witnesses. Furthermore, the claim that the brothers were in Portugal at the time of the kidnapping was sourced only to the conspiracy website Victurus Libertas, notable for, among other things, suggesting that the Queen of England was a reptilian alien.
Additionally, no alleged victims have come forward, nor has any physical evidence been found.
Aaron Davis
TL;DR
Angel Allen
I can tell already that this will be a productive and civil thread
James Turner
these motherfucking SNAKES. I HAVE HAD IT.
Eli Hernandez
BOOORRRING
Lucas Jackson
I want to debate how evil aliens didn't take control of government. you guys are conspiracy cattle nothing bad ever happens. HAHA.
Luke Hernandez
TL;DR it's like every other conspiracy theory (like the moon landing hoax conspiracy). It relies on cherry picking and an uninformed audience to selectively piece together a ridiculous story. Most are in on the joke that it's all ridiculous, but some actually believe it. Somewhat like the Bogdanoff meme that's recently been hitting this board.
Christian Ramirez
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Jacob Foster
Former pizzagate theorist here. This is fucking hilarious watching this fake story crash and burn.
Hunter Brooks
What I found most hilarious and most telling abou Pizzagate was the response to the 'artworks' and Marina Abramovich's work that constituted the early 'findings.'
As someone who is university educated, knowing that the Podesta's have Louise Bourgeois artworks and go on 'spirit cookings' literally just make them pretentious, liberal artbros with edgy taste and there are x100000's like them, especially at their social position.
The troglodytes at Sup Forums who think incest hentai constitutes art literally couldn't wrap their heads around this, because they are all uneducated swine.
Pizzagate itself, 'globalist' conspiracies, (((jews))) - these are all arguments made by people who cannot do the normal analysis of the economic and political sphere and instead need to form these vast conspiratorial narratives to understand the a world torn apart by capitalism.
polsters are STILL not going to understand modern art and STILL will not understand how capitalism works and will just become more hate-filled and impotent
Carter Martin
You are a child rapist
Carter Walker
It's incredibly depressing to see the stupidity on display in pg threads. I agree it's good to see them rebutted
Jaxon Turner
Leave.
Nathan Wilson
There's a flaw in your comment:
On January 29, 2010, Silsby was arrested with nine other American nationals attempting to steal 33 children from the country, most of whom were not even orphans and had families according to some reports. CNN reported on February 9, 2010 that this was not the first time Silsby had attempted to traffic children out of Haiti. Haitian police acting on a tip had intercepted Silsby in an earlier, separate attempt to remove 40 children out of the country. She was turned back at the Haitian border. For a brief period, Haitian authorities were considering adding a new kidnapping charge based on this evidence.
Hillary and Bill Clinton took an extraordinary interest in Silsby’s case from the moment she was arrested and almost immediately stepped in on her behalf. The Harvard Human Rights Journal stated that one of Bill Clinton's first acts as special envoy for the United Nations in Haiti "was to put out the fire of a child abduction scandal involving American citizens." On February 7th, 2010, The Sunday Times reported that Bill Clinton had intervened to strike a deal with the Haitian government, securing the release of all co-conspirators except for Silsby. Prosecutors ultimately sought a six-month sentence in Silsby's case, reducing charges for conspiracy and child abduction to mere "arranging irregular travel." A shockingly light penalty given the circumstances of her arrest, which would likely not have been possible but for the intervention of the Clintons in Silsby's case.
Since her release from detention in Haiti, Laura Silsby has returned to Idaho. In 2015, she married and took the last name Gayler. Silsby is currently employed by software company AlertSense as their Vice President of Marketing. AlertSense works with the Federal Government on FEMA's Integrated Public Alert & Warning System (IPAWS). One of IPAWS functions is to issue Amber Alerts during kidnapping events.
Fuck off you dumb shill. Nothing you said even remotely debunks it, it adresses minor points and says some vague shit about it and then concludes the whole thing is a hoax. Take you shekels and leave, kiddie fucker.
Asher Powell
Didn't read. Don't care.
Enjoy prison.
Nathaniel Phillips
>Pizzagate itself, 'globalist' conspiracies, (((jews))) ya blew it
Jonathan Russell
>implying pizzagate isn't the most reddit conspiracy ever
Jacob Moore
Only an uncultured troglodyte wouldn't want this in their living room, sure.
Elijah Murphy
Actually what pizzagate shows is that if your entire social life is mirrored online on places like facebook, you can take an innocent person and cherrypick a whole bunch of coincidences and put them all together to create an image of wrongdoing.
You can do this to anyone. Every little thing you've ever done will be seen in the context of being accused of something, and then used to support the accusation and the context for the next innocent coincidence.
Xavier Thomas
but seriously we can let this shop make the marinara recipe
Anthony Price
These cunts call out their own name as they masturbate in front of a mirror, wearing their silly little fucking hat.
Luke Cook
Hello child rapist. What exactly is it about children that you get off to?
Oliver Jones
KILL YOURSELF YOU STUPID FUCKING SHILL
Connor Roberts
Okay OP but you're also cherry picking, I'm not denying that there were people who believed stuff like the police sketches and the J' L'Enfant shirt but that's not the lynch pin of the argument
Is there an explanation for "would love to get pizza for an hour?" or pic related?
Convince me
Levi Diaz
Like how you called the Alien Elite stupid fucking troglodytes. Good work.
Isaac Peterson
>(((What I found most hilarious and most telling abou Pizzagate was the response to the 'artworks' and Marina Abramovich's work that constituted the early 'findings.'
As someone who is university educated, knowing that the Podesta's have Louise Bourgeois artworks and go on 'spirit cookings' literally just make them pretentious, liberal artbros with edgy taste and there are x100000's like them, especially at their social position.
The troglodytes at Sup Forums who think incest hentai constitutes art literally couldn't wrap their heads around this, because they are all uneducated swine.
Pizzagate itself, 'globalist' conspiracies, (((jews))) - these are all arguments made by people who cannot do the normal analysis of the economic and political sphere and instead need to form these vast conspiratorial narratives to understand the a world torn apart by capitalism.
polsters are STILL not going to understand modern art and STILL will not understand how capitalism works and will just become more hate-filled and impotent)))
Jayden Garcia
Troglodyte.
Parker Miller
blew what? trying to convince this board that they were wrong?
why would I give a shit about that. These people are scum incel gamers. I just found the inability to understand art funny. Redpills on (((jews))) don't really make sense, and then Sup Forums turns around and supports Israel as an ethno-state.
This place is literally just bootlicking cucks capitulating for rich people and feeling bad about it leading to anti-semitism. The zionists literally bombed the shit out of my country but I'm also able to read historical and philosophical texts in order to understand how the world works, not hastily put together infographics.
Leo Diaz
Reddit spacing fucked the greentext, dammit.
Jayden Jones
I hope they pay you enough money to silence your screaming conscious.
Anthony Morris
Right on time. I've noticed that an anti-pizzagate thread shows up at about this time every single day.
Do you shill in other threads or are you assigned to make and maintain this specific category of thread?
Gabriel Davis
Fuck off, shill. Mass arrests of you and your ilk are imminent!
Colton Rivera
GET OUT, KID FUCKER!
Dylan Harris
It's not about wanting it, is about understanding the type of person who would.
It's an edgy artpiece, likes millions before it. Go to a fucking museum dude lmao
Ethan James
Respond to him, OP.
Luis Evans
Show me where in a museum something like tha exists.
William Harris
This is scripted shilling. You guys are almost done. You should hide while you can
Levi Watson
I get paid 20 dollars an hour to 'debunk' Pedophilia. I'm really important. I'm really smart. Troglodyte.
Jack Turner
>pizzagate >the dumbest thing on pol I wonder who is behind this post
Connor Rodriguez
Holy fucking shit - a sensible thread!
While we're at it, far right babydicks should be made to look at real rape, abuse and pedo charges. Donald Dumbfuck was a personal friend of Epstein and used the Lolita Express hundreds of times. His ex wife talked about her violent rape on court record.
Go ahead and tell me again how evil John Podesta is while you support a pedo sex offender President.
Aiden Ramirez
Where do you live? Paris? Go to Palais de Tokyo. Berlin? Go to the Hamburgerbahnhof New York? Go to the MoMA.
Like, art itself is transgressive, and artists wrestling with and depicting their own experiences with abuse is not uncommon. Art is a cerebral and conceptual plane in which ideas are put together in order to challenge existing hierarchies and beliefs. Podesta is legit just an educated dude, who probably read some cool essays on the artists (Louise Bourgeois was a legitimate bad-ass and her art is incredible) and decided to snap it up.
Jaxson Garcia
>liberal artbros with edgy taste and there are x100000's like them, especially at their social position. Sup Forums said this was true, they also said most of those edgelords like to molest children and control kids in general.
Wyatt Young
source please
Dominic Hall
Child Fuckers everywhere.
Matthew Nguyen
>support a pedo sex offender President.
lel that never stuck, why keep trying?
Luke Powell
the older you get the edgier you become. it's why the Elder Abominations are so edgy. That's my theory anyway.
Levi Lewis
here's sauce
James Phillips
>home filled with grotesque paintings of abused children >n-nothing weird about that!
Nathaniel Fisher
>You should hide while you can
Hey this isn't Russia yet where they can round you up for criticizing Putin on Sup Forums.
Brody Thompson
t. shareblue You dumb fucks realize that all you did by coming here is make Sup Forums more likely to discredit anything left, even if it's true, right?
Carter Reyes
>the older you get the edgier you become.
You talking about edge theory
Eli Jenkins
from ancient times to now. the Elite aliens wanted to chow. planting seeds of mankind. the cattle they were trying to find. making them fight their own. making them get some loans.
These evil Aliens did not win. We put them in a trash bin.
Jonathan Johnson
>most
The Guardian broke the Snowden Leaks, the Panama Papers - revelations that hurt both the deep state and the banking and business elite. Why they wouldn't also run with the Pizzagate story makes no sense. (I'm not exonerating the Guardian, but in general this is not a story they would shy away from, as well as a host of other reputable news publications.)
You cannot argue that satanic moloch child rapists are defended by a press that did undermine this same overall class of people with the Panama leaks.
Are the Clinton's despicable monstrous freaks? Yes? If Pgate hurts them then thats a positive. But looking at it from a logical perspective, the shit is just hilariously bad.
Parker Sanchez
part two on sauce
oh and a quote from James "chickenfucker" Alafantis
"[B]ecause a lot of restuarants will open a can and put it on. Like our sauce--we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes--10 ton of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in."
Chase Cox
I'm no conspiracy theorist but Podesta admitted those are his emails and if you read them and don't find it sketchy, that's.. I guess that's normal.
But then if you look at the artwork in his home. The artwork in Comet Pizza. The spirit cooking. The instagram. The crossdresser parties held in the back of a "family restaurant".. the bands they host..
You would have to be mentally ill to not think there is something there.
But then, on the other hand.. where is the silence coming from? Is there an investigation going on? I believe there is, and that we are too used to getting told exactly what is going on behind the scenes ( the parts that they want us to know, anyway ). Let's hope that is the case, or better yet, that I'm just a conspiracy theorist.
For now, seems to be, clearly something going on here.
Joshua Russell
Er yes. Kids in pullups on the stairwells and a big hanging cast of the exact pose that Dahmer used in a murder. Nothing to see here. It should just be written off as sophisticated hipster shit. Now that you have corrected my record, I'll put up the same kind of shit in my house and see how people react. I'm pretty sure it will be the same reaction that pizzagate investigators have - because it's fucking creepy.
Charles Garcia
this shilling against pizzagate actually makes me believe there's some credibility to it...
Jack Fisher
All I've seen so far are a bunch of strangely worded emails which suggest some sort of code language is being used, and a bunch of people all loosely linked through this one Pizza joint, some of these people are linked to known sex offenders, but I still haven't seen a smoking gun so to speak, but I have a gut feeling that something ain't right about the whole situation so I think it's worth looking into.
Hudson Turner
Anyone that believed pizzagate had a chance when autists would megaphone every development the second it was released needs to go back to voat. But seriously guys, we can't let these kids get their hands on the nuclear codes.
Angel Green
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Joseph Roberts
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Joseph Gonzalez
Because it's the truth.
Look, pantshitter, I know it enrages you that you'll never match a black Muslim man's sexual prowess. Creation cursed you with a babydick and you've let the hate build up in your heart ever sense.
Literally stop. You do not have logic, ethics or the moral high ground as long as you keep supporting Donald Dumbfuck.
Josiah Fisher
>I trust my government and let the MSM think for me EYES WIDE SHUT
Jaxon Russell
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Jackson Hall
>We'll discredit the truth because it doesn't fit our narrative about our pedophile president.
>10 shill threads about milo >1 shill thread about pizzagate
Thomas Martin
Literally x-files shit. >dude pasta means kids because some user said so >omg though it has no background check im totally fine with that
Brandon Jones
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Charles Hernandez
I find it strange that Podesta has art of children with post-spanked asses in his home. I also find it strange that a few of his friends are convicted pedophiles. I also find it strange when someone is emailing him to get him hyped for three children that are going to be swimming in his pool. I find it strange that years before this pizzagate conspiracy theorizing that Andrew Breitbart was accusing Podesta of being a pedophile. I also find it strange that the police chief (Friend of James Alefantis) of Washington DC charged an 11 year old for filing a false police report after she was quite obviously raped by older men.
Kayden Martin
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Kayden Butler
I no do math good. I am cutie who believes in good. no bully pls.
of course she was thinking 'this is what Dahmer did.'
fuck I despise art plebs
Aiden Nelson
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Andrew Morales
>Muh cherry picking
Time to turn your cognitive dissonance off for a while and come see what the real people are up to. But my guess is you'll just ignore both reason and evidence and continue your spiral into autistic numbness.
Grayson Diaz
This only works if you are a gullible cunt. No one believes this horseshit. I know some of the people whos instagrams have been posted.
basically, pg fags are a buncha fucking basement dwellers thats why tehy have to conduct all their research online
William Ward
From: Fred Burton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:39 PM To: 'Don Kuykendall' Cc: 'Aaric Eisenstein'; 'Darryl O'Connor'; 'Copeland Susan' Subject: RE: Get ready for "Chicago Hot Dog Friday" I think Obama spent about $65,000 of the tax-payers money flying in pizza/dogs from Chicago for a private party at the White House not long ago, assume we are using the same channels?
>Think about that one mathematically, you take however many people are in the white house, and you give them each at least 3 "hotdogs" does that add up to $65,000...
>assume we are using the same channels?
>channels
James Miller
do you despise anyone who sells their soul or opens their legs for Aliens.
that's going a bit far, everyone would be shitting their pants if that were true
Noah Parker
>1 shill finn post
Here's a (((you)))
Chase Johnson
I know this may seem CRAZY to you seeing as you have no family or friends or anything, but some people spend time with the children of their friends and family.
It is what makes them grow up to be well adjusted and not believe degenerate shit like pizzagate
Isaac Campbell
the image of the guy lying nude with pizza on him and a bottle of honey is pretty fucking suspicious my bro. as well as "chicken lover". oh yeah and the wall of the pizza place itself ("shut up and fuck")
Aaron Stewart
Yeah sure shill
Go back to instagram and go be a normalcunt. Enjoy your 10 cents.
