You know what, I'm gonna try and explain the swedish mindset a bit.
We're a conformist culture, plain and simple. Our most basic way of doing things is based on a back and forth where all individuals discussing a given issue join together as a group and work to find the point of “lagom” concerning the issue; Lagom is best described by the english phrase “within reason,” so never too much, never too little. Always a back and forth until the most reasonable solution in relation to the situation within the group is found- nobody gets everything, and nobody gets nothing, always within reason. So when swedes deal with swedes, there's always a calm back and forth where we put aside differences and deny ego to find what the most lagom/reasonable solution might be, which is why we abhor emotional displays because it disrupts the ability to find this careful balance.
However, this mindset requires everyone to join into it for it to function on a collective level, as swedes not only abhor emotional displays, we abhor conflict and overt domination. You are only supposed to take the “lagom” amount, not whatever you feel like or desire. This mindset and a lot of our other cultural traits are low-key ones we never really explain or are taught overtly, we learn by the silent example, which is why when foreginers immigrate and ask about our waysnad try to intigrate (or not), we have difficulty explaining what it is. We only know it is humble and based on silence, keeping to yourself, and “the greater good” kind of thinking. This sometimes leads swedes to the conclusion we don't have an inherent culture or distinct traits. This is further added on because in order to quell or egos, swedes live and breathe self depricating humor, constantly belittling and making fun of ourselves, because we aren't supposed to take ourselves to seriously, instead relying on the collective lagom dance to find our place in society. 1/6
We are also arrogant as all hell, because we do consider this way superior, we just aren't allowed to openly state so because of said “humbleness” and need to keep such personal opinions to yourself. Swedes don't consider nordic traits to be inherent nordic traits, we consider them to be the true human traits we all share in, all other cultures just haven't realized yet that it is the best way, we just happened to find it first, as if left alone their old way will “wash off” and they'll see the light.
This might lead one into thinking we're a completely collectivist people only a hairs bredth away from communism, which isn't true, we're actually a collective-individualist society. What that means is that within the public sphere, we're supposed to be calm, quiet, keep to ourself and always try and act lagom so as to not upset the social balance. There is no greater taboo within swedish culture (and nordic in truth) then intruding upon someone else. The individualist part of the collective-individualist culture is the fact that we all have a rock solid right to our own sphere which, as mentioned earlier, one must never, EVER intrude upon. Swedes HATE empty ritual, we hate unnecessary interaction, we hate forced emotions, we hate dealing with things that aren't true and mostly there for conceit or chit-chat; if you want something, be calm, polite, to the point and then leave me the fuck alone. 2/6
Lincoln Perez
This, “leave me the fuck alone” part of the mindset allows one to pretty much be as liberal personally as one wishes, as long as you maintain the lagom balance publically, no one gives a shit. This has made that swedes generally treat their “membership” to sweden, both as an ethnicity and otherwise, as a practical thing, not a romantic thing. We treat society more as a machine than an organic living thing, something we want efficient and well-oiled, but with not too much personal emotion invested in, since it leads one into pride and other things making it more difficult to remain calm and detached. This way we don't have to deal with other people more than absolutely necessary.
This mindset worked well before, because sweden is a large nation with a small population and huge forest and wilderness, there was quite litterally ample space to be left alone and enjoy nature and a quiet, peaceful life out in a torp (traditional house, usually red and white painted). Which meant that we did our job and civic duty in an orderly manner, and spent our personal time within our personal sphere doing whatever, because we didn't bother with or care what other swedes did or who they truly are. We were joined collectivelly in a romantic sense back and forth across the ages by our folksy culture, and the fact that sweden has never had a very wide gap between classes, and most of our leaders have actually been pretty good to the nation. Imagine a sleepy, orderly, clean and helpful farming village out in the country, then simply create an entire nation functioning in a very similar way, and you got pretty much all the nordic nations. There's a ton of more details one could go through, but that is the general mindset of the swede, “the little swede” within our minds telling us how to act. 3/6
However, in our post-modernsitic global society with the internet and everything, old traditions and “folksy” ways aren't just being abandoned, by now they HAVE been abandoned. Swedes have always relied on ingenuity and progressivism to survive, because we've had so little social capital to draw from, we have to do more with less, either militarily or otherwise. This has been turned to social progressivism today, mostly based on trying to incorporate new cultures and practices as well as cultivating a more metropolitan and global mindset, looking down on native swedish ways as being a thing of backwards farmer and rednecks. This is most true in the big cities, but the more you venture into the countryside, the more traditinal things become. So this entire thing is mostly a social and cultural battle between city dwellers trying to become “world citizens” and the country folk trying to remain and survive as what they are. Go watch some stuff on youtube, plenty of documentaries about this development in regards to food for example, where many old ways and companies and family business are dying out because nobody young wants to remain out there doing “farmers work” or fishing or whatever.
This later development has been specifically aided by the advent of the internet. Swedes nowadays dominate a lot of the it-market and research. This has had the negative effect of furthering our personal isolation from the public sphere and other swedes as people, since we don't have to deal with others at all to the same degree we had before, which helped keep us together as a society and give a sense of inclusion as a people. Nowadays, being a swede to a lot of people just means being a part of the social machine, a pragmatic standpoint with zero romantic connection to the ideals, history or traditions of old- its paperwork, nothing else. 4/6
Aaron Hall
The swedish people currently resides in a state of limbo, because we aren't really sure what we are anymore. There is a great silent majority that wants to remain swedish, thing is, many can't grasp what it means to be swedish anymore. A culture is defined by shared belives about ones place in life and how it should be lived, and a sharing or rituals meant to maintain and enforce that way. We've abandoned, lost or simply forgotten many of those. Either through neglect or riddicule. So we are divided internally, upsetting the lagom balance, one wants to remain swedish (which many don't have a shared viewed on what it even is to be swedish, what traditions and belives to preserve) or becomes a part of the global society and culture.
To all the swedes, as an example of forgotten traditions: When's the last time you danced around the christmass tree singing Räven dansar över isen?
Moral high ground and consensus is key to social change in sweden, we never act rashly on emotion, or aren't supposed to at least. The left leaning idealogies and their agents have been able to do so publically lately, because they hold the key to the moral high ground, the greater good. The nordic people were shaped to endure the slow killers- the cold and the dark, and the silence of the deep forests, and the loneliness- so we're geared towards efficancy, and making sure every resource is accounted for and made the most use of, and we adhere to this in pretty much everything. It's instinct. 5/6
Noah Cox
Average Swede. Pic related
Cameron Collins
As long as the left ideas hold the key to idea of the greater good, they will rule. It will only change if either the consensus, through silent majority voting changes the politcal atmosphere, or someone through the lagom dance in a very public debate demonstrates calmly, rationally, why another way is better for the greater good.
After last election, our nation was effectivally without a government for three whole months before reaching a conclusion with the December agreement (look it up), and our nation hardly even noticed on a practical level. Swedish institutions are iron, because we are so effective at what we do collectively, which is why change won't be rushed or made out of emotional appeals. We know that which rises quickly falls just as fast. What we make is built to endure, and to be accessable and used by all. Japanese likes to take things to a outer limit of complexity in their technology, swedes like to refine and simpify everything to a basic level of function; we “Ikea-fy” things, even society.
Using Lord of the Rings to try and define the central traits and cultures of Europa and its peoples is pretty popular since so many are familiar and intuitively understand what is trying to be conveyed, so let me wrap up the same.
The nordic peoples are sometimes related to Rohan, which we aren't. Sometimes to the hobbits, which we aren't. Usually we're supposed to be the elves, which we are similar to, but are not.
Nordic peoples are the ents.
We all know how that ended. 6/6
Evan Ward
...
Isaiah Walker
Working on it, only wrote this whole fucking thing because of all the sweden threads.
Hudson Gutierrez
Sorry but do you mind writing in english? :-)
Mason Martinez
Tbh I think it's something all Germanic cultures share in common to some extent, some more, some less. They're extreme level of high trust makes them conformist. They're also extremely autistic, they're basically operating at 100% Based Shitlord Ethnonationalist Gas the Kikes Race War Now or at 200% Full Cuckery.
Carter Long
wtf are you doing? you know we can see your ID
Connor Brown
Look again.
Jacob Thompson
Sweden is a lost cause.
Christopher Gomez
10/10 thread, thank you
Julian Green
tl;dr, but read most of it.
I have no doubt the Swedes are a great people, so what is fucking you must be feminism,
Feminism is inherently destructive and corrosive, because it seeks to be dominated, as females do. Feminism is the group embodiment of the female, and females (generally) are not loyal to the tribe (see war brides) they seek the dominant male.
We should have forced feminism down when it started rising, instead we let it grow and stifle masculinity, and now we (Western Civilization as a whole) are a culture begging to be fucked.
Low and behold, there is an extremely masculine culture (Islam), that is willing to take that opportunity, and of course, of fucking course, the women accept it with open arms.
I know the men of Sweden are better than this, and I know Sweden will be great again, it just may not be without bloodshed eventually.
Swedish men are eventually going to go full Deus Vault when the time comes. That's my feeling anyway.
Also bump for your efforts.
Cooper Cruz
...
Wyatt Perry
Good posts
Eli Nguyen
I appreciated this explanation, thanks.
As someone who's always found your people to be god-tier attractive, please get your shit together.
i recently read an article about minority rule. pretty much explains why very often there is halal or kosher food everywhere and organic food is getting prevalence in public happenings. in short it stated that if you have a dispersed minority in a country, and that minority is unwilling to compromise on something, sooner or later the whole country accepts the thing the minority is unwilling to compromise on. its not just a swedish thing - its a human thing. youre just experiencing the rule of the minority, because you are willing to compromise. the problem is that such situations do not normally revert back - they need change induced into them, and that change must be very drastic.
Thomas Robinson
Nope. Stop lying to yourselves. You are fucked in the head.
There are 2 psychological conditions involved in connection to this rapefugee invasion and destroying Swedish nation. Brainwashing and harassing cause them and a lot of your Swedish people are locked into them. And remember, Swedish authorities done this to Swedish children for years. Help them.
The first one is Stockholm syndrome: Stockholm syndrome is a psychological condition that causes hostages to develop sympathetic sentiments towards their captors, often sharing their opinions and acquiring romantic feelings for them as a survival strategy during captivity. These feelings, resulting from a bond formed between captor and captives during intimate time spent together, are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims. Generally speaking, Stockholm syndrome consists of "strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other."
And the second one is cognitive dissonance: In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress (discomfort) experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values, when performing an action that contradicts those beliefs, ideas, and values; or when confronted with new information that contradicts existing beliefs, ideas, and values. Human beings strive for internal consistency. A person who experiences inconsistency tends to become psychologically uncomfortable, and so is motivated to try to reduce the cognitive dissonance occurring, and actively avoids situations and information likely to increase the psychological discomfort
>we're a conformist culture we could tell from your assholes conforming to that Muslim cock you all are taking
Carter Cook
Not 10/10 thread but shill shitting on Swedes and their culture.
Elijah Foster
If you believe your far superior in human traits that you abhor emotion then aren't you sort of dead inside?
What effort of punishment does it take to anger a Swedish person?
I seriously can't comprehend how odd your nations response to threats are.
It's bizarre , there's obvious brainwashing going to instill this behaviour but jeezus your at war with invaders.
Cameron Mitchell
Some OC
Luke Gutierrez
Ok fuckface, just do what they want and redefine "Swedish" to deny your history, cultural heritage, and genetics.
I wish your children good luck.
Carter Miller
thank you sven, i will screencap and show them posts to my grandchildren, to show what people have lived in Sweden....
Jaxon Parker
Jess Christ that was a pain to read! Listen to yourself you deluded FOOL!
You are trying to rationalize! You are trying to absolve yourself!
YOUR COUNTRY IS DYING! And here you are, writing a blog about it. This was grating to read! So much cowardice and complacency on one thread. It's sickening.
Sweden is nothing bu a memory now because of people like you.
Jason Morgan
And what's the cause again? Globalism is inevitable. The capitalists and the banks won the war. This is the ALTERNATIVE timeline where Link lost the fight against Ganondorf in Hyrule Castle. It's all over, sadly Sweden is the first country to go down because swedes are too "smart" to choose a life as a dishonest politician and so we let the babyboomers fuck over us instead.
Eli Kelly
I fully agree with this explanation, which is much better than the ones I've tried to create in the past.
Gavin Bennett
(Pic Related - his party wishes to co-rule with ((( Civic Nationalist ))) White Race-denying Sweden Democrats (sd))
Mass media psyop
>The company was founded by Per Andersson and started as a subsidiary of the Modern Times Group along with Viasat Broadcasting. It is now controlled through investment company Kinnevik.
>among the names mentioned >ANDERS BORG >previous 8 years Minister of Economics ((( ANDERS BORG ))) we're talking about here
Gabriel Ortiz
>The capitalists and the banks won the war. no, we would have a world government if they would have won the war. >Globalism is inevitable. you are wrong.
Gabriel Johnson
Okay, that's enough of pop culture analogies.
Ethan King
What swedish men? They are outnumbered by the foreigners within 10 years.
Landon Martin
Ok I read the whole thing.
Good post.
Samuel Cox
No, actually this is how it is.
Normal cognitive dissonance or rationalization would go away. But yes, there is consensus and yes there is the "greater good".
And you can't go against that or you're "just plain wrong as a person".
Nolan Campbell
Lol what a bunch of retards
Jace Sullivan
>typo Post above is about the free-as-in-gratis newspaper "Metro"
Indeed, since there were anti-globalist people within the U.S., Australia, UK and other countries during World War II, opposing the fratricidal war waged between fellow Europeans
Tyler Smith
Did you perhaps notice how I didn't condemn or endorse anything of what I said at all. I was trying to make an objective explanation of the general attitude and mindset and what basic assumptions it relies on.
Ethan Myers
Let us be honest. You have an entire nation suffering from Stockholm's syndrome.
Isaac Wright
YOU SUCK YOU SUC YOU SU YOU S YOU YO Y
Jaxson Wright
You are a worm.
Andrew Morris
>abhorrentleafpost.jpg
This Sven just gave us the tools to help save Sweden. In a deep, terrible irony, we will have to use the tools of globalism against the globalists, and this is how. To do that, we HAVE to understand how each countries culture works, and design memes with that in mind, and design strategies with that in mind.
Somewhere among this information is the key to saving Sweden. Fuck off.
David Barnes
Agreed if they won then we would have the a eu council expanding to larger scale To OP
Seriously I think you need to visit a country not like yours and understand what freedom is.
I think your brain washed
Matthew Hughes
is that a fucking joke? God I want to kill myself. This world needs to be wiped.
Grayson Green
All Swedes are worms
Cooper Cruz
here we go again....
Dylan Nguyen
Globalism ruins everything. Like democracy, it is all about money. You need to put some people in power who prioritize your culture and traditions over elitist Jews and their banks. Fascism may be your only hope given the threats of sandniggers and that most people are sympathetic to them. But then "lagom" would suffer so I don't know.
Carson Nguyen
Just KYS leaf
Hunter Hall
How is this shitting on them?
Jason Hughes
Don't worry based Swede, I got what you were explaining.
I hope you find a way to re-embrace your culture and traditions and appreciate your unique identity.
Maybe having the third world come in en masse will remind you and we'll see a resurgence of of the Swede.
Liam Russell
There is no greater good in enabling invaders and turning your country into 3rd world shithole. You are brainwashed and harassed into submission. Wake up and resist.
Austin King
I mostly only do small shit posts, but all the fucking sweden threads coupled with the international media shitstorm that's about to commence kinda forced me to try and add my little piece to the debate.
Most will shit on what I explained above because they have an outsiders point of view and project their own idealized version of what they think Sweden is on us and then condemn us for flushing down their dream. Not saying I personally like the current development and the social unrest it's bringing, but they don't actually know what we truly are from the inside view, so I tried adding that since it was obviously missing from the dialogue and most swedes can't really put it into words.
Liam Ward
In the netherlands we have "doe maar normaal" which means act according to the norm The anglo saxons are more hardcore truth tellers. That's why I think we are going to elect Rutte again and germany Merkel.
Adrian Robinson
>. We treat society more as a machine than an organic living thing, something we want efficient and well-oiled, but with not too much personal emotion invested in, Oy Vey, you sound like the pragmatic Sweden "Swedishness lies only in how you behave/values [following the law]" Democrats now
>but that is the general mindset of the swede, “the little swede” within our minds telling us how to act. The Internet - Flashback Forum and other sites - rather points to people being pent up inside but acting rationally as to not lash out IRL
>not remembering Swedish and Scandinavian history >many wars, civil wars, ruling kings being fought against etc
Angel Collins
Read what I posted. There has been an engineered generational rejection of Sweden.
Look to who did this. You sure as heck didn't vote for this.
Caleb Diaz
But correct, the social phenomenon he has taken great effort in describing has become our cross to bear.
It is what it is.
Colton Harris
I hold nothing but contempt for people like you. WHO CARES IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE SITUATION?
How does that help anyone? What do you think you've achieved by writing a fucking blog post on a Brazilian fly-fishing forum?
Sweden is worse than a meme. YOU are the reason Sweden will be scantly remembered in a hundred years. ABSOLUTELY SICKENING.
Parker Cooper
Not based, but recognition is the first step
Carson Lee
We're a nation of lawfully-good wannabe paladins without the guidance of a deity with an innate need to suffer, endure and sacrifice for the greatest good. Work from there.
Luke Butler
HA HA HA. They can't even save themselves with this "insight".
Please, oh wise Ameribro, tell me what incredible civilzation-saving insight you gleaned from his word salad.
Sebastian Smith
How do you know he's not based? He made no effort to explain his opinion on the situation, all he did was give an honest explanation of the Swedish culture/mindset, and for that I called him based.
Lucas Ward
Reminder that this man and his party doesn't even conceive of "Ethnic Swedes" existing, rendering your posts unnecessary since the Civic Nationalist "Value Conservative" non-White voting cattle means more to his type of politician
Caleb Richardson
I've tried to explain it over and over yeh, but the murricans especially don't seem to get it.
Austin Bell
>many can't grasp what it means to be swedish anymore. This is true of all 'globalised' nations of the west. We've abolished nationhood, every country is now the same, we all speak English, have the same glass monolith sky scrapers, we all have the same banks and newspapers all run by the same people. Ask someone in the inner city of any western country what their countries values are, they will always without fail say something along the lines of 'tolerance, acceptance, love'. Even the people in western nations no longer have any idea what their countries stands for other than vague ideas about not being mean. To go along with this, every nation in the west is told 'we're a nation of immigrants' as a method of further detracting from any idea of nationalism. We've all been victims of globalisation that has robbed us of our homes.
Bentley Jackson
Bullshit, not a bit of Deus Vult in any of you
Benjamin Edwards
>Look to who did this. You sure as heck didn't vote for this. das rite my man
Sebastian Hill
tl;dr. Sweden is a shitty country that has produced nothing of real value to the World. It will soon collapse because the men are so pussified that they're ruled by women which hate them. Good riddance.
Christopher Morris
You know what, I'm gonna try and explain the swedish mindset a bit.
We're a conformist culture, plain and simple. Our most basic way of doing things is based on a back and forth where all individuals discussing a given issue join together as a group and work to find the point of “lagom” concerning the issue; Lagom is best described by the english phrase “within reason,” so never too much, never too little.
When my wife takes another lover, we will use the English phrase“within reason,” So when Swedes deal with Bulls, there's always a calm back and forth where we put aside differences and deny ego to find what the most lagom/reasonable solution might be, which is why we abhor emotional displays because it disrupts the ability to find this careful balance.
And masterbating while Asheek pummels my wife is amazing. I'm not allowed in the room obviously (Askeeks religion does not permit him to see another penis). But from the sound I hear it seems I am most happy.
Why are you not Swedish?
Jason Rogers
Tl dr version please.
Juan Bennett
I think the U.S is unique in this regard, as many of us still know what it means to be American.
We still have a strong national spirit, still infested with globalists and lefties who want to dissolve it, but it's still here.
Granted we are still a pretty young country.
Ayden Ramirez
>nothing of real value
I'm too tired to list all the engineering advances that have come out of sweden desu.
And our big corporations punch way above their weight.
Gabriel Morgan
I read all of your six posts, you should screen cap this so we can spread this text to every relevant thread. The LOTR comparison gave me a chuckle at first but then made me sad.
Owen Cox
I can't believe I am reading this. This is by far the most cucked thread I have EVER, EVER read on Sup Forums. I hope you're larping.
Caleb Campbell
>Sweden is a shitty country that has produced nothing of real value to the World That's objectively wrong.
Chase Butler
Sorry bro, but you aren't nordic, if you didn't try to kick out the kikes at least ones. It's your turn now, do the necessary or perish! Satan's children don't care for your feeling, they exploit germanic empathy as much as they can.
>Bonnier - totally nordic
Kayden Murphy
It's like when jews argue, except in reverse.
Adrian Richardson
I'll be honest with you bra, I was recently in Stockholm and then came to Montreal. Montreal is 75322465421 times morevdangerously infested, and downtown is absolutely overrum.
We are in a much worse position than the Swedes. The shitskins there are mostly confused idiots who just fell from the moon and can barely find their way around. The shitskjns here are spiteful, hateful 2-3 generation Arabs who know EXACTLY how to bully and how to play victim. There are spiteful niggers EVERYWHERE and again, qualitatively worse ones than anywhere outside the US.
Canada is WAY worse than Sweden.
Julian Rivera
Sweden needs a true sparking event. Something so beyond the pale not even the farthest left can keep a lid on it. Sweden is conformist, so the moment something happens that shifts their society even the slightest in one direction, it immediately dominoes on and on in that direction.
Fuck off shill, the adults are working.
Jordan Cook
>videogame analogies
You're a fucking net loss to your country
Henry Ramirez
IF Swedes are so progressive, do you think the mothers will tell their kids they are rape babies or purposefully leave that out
Joshua Edwards
Sweden is still a 100 times better country than Canada, which is probably why you're posting this.
Canada is a nation of faggot leftovers, your country is fucking nothing, you do nothing, you stand for nothing, you are and always have been utterly irrelevant.
Just like you are on Sup Forums. I don't understand how so many stupid fucking people can be from the same place, I regret being on the same continent as you.
Luke Clark
I am flabbergasted by you. It's not your "cross to bear" if you don't want it to be you silly fuck.
I think I have to close this tab. The frustration it is inducing is too much for me.
You guys are fucking insane. It is little wonder, your women abhor you.
Andrew Hernandez
In canada you maybe have the combination of french intellectualism with anglo-saxon "muh individuality and expression"?
Such a mindset would utterly abhor this sort of thing i guess.
Carson Walker
>You sure as heck didn't vote for this.
>Olof Palme, 1975 GRUNDLAG (constitution) addition with a bit of text now declaring Sweden a multicultural country >also "Sveriges statsminister Olof Palme försäkrar i FN:s generalförsamling Sveriges stöd för en ny, ekonomiskt rättvis världsordning. " [swedish wikipedia article, on the year "1975"]
>Sweden Democrats eradicating their Youth Wing 100%, for posting a pro-White youtube ad directed to other racially aware european peoples in the more not-so-CivicNat european nationalist parties >their (((leadership))) consisting of people declaring more sympathy with the Middle East than Scandinavia
Levi Gutierrez
You are stupid if you praise his attempts at denouncing your nation.
You are on the course of turning into 3rd world shithole. You are invaded by savages with intent to KILL YOU ALL.
And you keep shitting on your past.
Pathetic.
Die already.
Thomas Butler
>has become our cross to bear. Stop talking as if you were democidal ethno-masochist Angela Merkel
Eli Gray
That is why you are such massive faggots,back in the day the guy who choped of the others head ruled,and thus you were strong and mrciless warriors,now you are a bunch of faggot ass pussis.
Jack Long
thanks sweden for writing all this up. i had heard about this before years ago (watching a documentary of harley bikers in sweden and they mentioned it)
i hope your country can get back to what it was.
it's a treasure and it would be a complete tragedy if it was lost to a globalization and just became another mediocre to modern country.
Liam Long
Wrong about the country, true about the women.
Andrew Sanchez
It's "ambiguous sense of fairness and a general sense of caring for all people not defined in detail" vult at the moment, that's kinda the point.
Evan Sullivan
>And you can't go against that or you're "just plain wrong as a person". Our nordic ancestors disagree if you take the time to dig in archives
This man has been vilified in the modern academia for merely expressing that the White, Europe-derived american populace should have not entered WW2 against the Axis (he was a Swedish-American pilot daring to speak up)
Xavier Jones
Its either that or the swedes in general are just born suicidal.
William Garcia
Caring about those who intend to kill you is insanity, faggot.
This insane behavior has name - Stockholm syndrome.
Read my post above
Lincoln Campbell
anyone screencap this yet? worth saving for future Sven threads.
