Brit/pol/: Green and Pleasant Laaand edition

>'Gunpowder Plot' to oust Bercow only finds 5 signatories so far
independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bid-to-oust-commons-speaker-john-bercow-struggles-to-gain-momentum-a7590871.html

>Anti-Trump Protests across the UK (mainly in Wales for some reason)
belfasttelegraph.co.uk/video-news/video-antitrump-protests-across-uk-35466943.html

>Parliament debates Trump (why?): here's the lowlights
cnn.com/2017/02/20/europe/trump-state-visit-uk-parliament-debate/

>Scotland will leave EU whether it wants to or not
uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-scotland-idUKKBN1601AU

>Britain's Brexit Bill could Bust Bank; t. Bastard Juncker
uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-juncker-idUKKBN160138?il=0

>No civil partnerships for straight people (yet)
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39039146

>Nuttall gives statement on Hillsborough. UKIP disarray
liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/ukip-chairman-why-quit-party-12634575

>UK Column NEWS UK
youtube.com/watch?v=Bupki4fGg84

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telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/27/bbc-remake-watership-down-with-less-violence-to-avoid-scarring-c/
autism.org.uk/about/benefits-care.aspx
youtube.com/watch?v=D_hSFi0juuY
i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8218722.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/main-farage-solution-1.jpg
theconversation.com/the-truth-about-migrants-and-the-nhs-60908
parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/710a8dbe-1a4a-40be-9d05-4939c5634f01
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-05/mcdonald-s-free-housing-lays-bare-eastern-europe-s-labor-crunch
youtube.com/watch?v=M-aUGIYK7WU
bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-39033426
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

First for slipping the missus the Rodger on a Saturday night.

Is the Lords vote on amendments tonight?

FEMINIST RABBITS

telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/27/bbc-remake-watership-down-with-less-violence-to-avoid-scarring-c/

>"the 2017 version will not just tone down the levels of on-screen violence to make it more appropriate for children, but give a boost to its female characters."

>"Female rabbits... will get a dose of doe power, as it were, to allow them to display their own heroics alongside their male co-stars."

>"This fantastic take on the novel will unite the whole family, and bring this classic story to a new generation.”

I think its the 2nd reading?

7th is the final reading I think?

don't follow Lords because it means fuck all tbqh.

Why did he lie about not being educationally subnormal?

>5 signatories

Who /meatandpotatopie/ here

Why... why would eating the pie be against the rules?

The house of Lords are going to get fucked if they try and do anything, May will be given the authority to do what she wants but the problem is that this is a woman who has been quite happy to let in hundreds of thousands of immigrants despite having the control to not let them in, and she also campaigned for remain. If you expect her to suddenly change her mind on mass migration and eu integration then you will be sadly mistaken, if nothing changes then in five years time we will still have our citizens able to be dragged before a foreign court because of the european arrest warrant and we will still have immigration in the hundreds of thousands. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

if only the frigid white ones would breed like rabbits.

Updated view because the old one was a bit unclear.

Betting regulations, if he stood to profit or his friends had insider knowledge.

When you imagine the English civil war, When you think of the men actually waving pointy sticks at each other, I imagine men like him.

Lords amendments need to go through commons anyway, kind of makes them a bit pointless, they should just allow expert advisors in commons as in tribunals.

Send this link to your parents autism.org.uk/about/benefits-care.aspx , it might help them.

It's not, but it has dodgy implications with betting sites and gambling. But more fool them for putting up such a moronic and easily-rigged bet.

youtube.com/watch?v=D_hSFi0juuY

Is He Right?

the spiked guy on daily politics today wasn't very good and let owen jones off the hook with hate crime statistics

the left/liberals/sjws have a systemic problem with believing in bogus statistics when it fits their narrative and it's not just with racist attacks, there's been many high profile rape cases in the past few years where the left unquestioningly accepted the woman's account which was later discredited, likewise there were many fake hate crime incidents reported after trump was elected

where do people get the idea to falsely report this stuff? maybe it's the hysteria whipped up by people who unquestioningly accept any minority testimony regardless of evidence?

You see, here's my argument I have agaisnt typical UKIP/BREXIT/Nationalist people.

>UKIP/BREXIT: Muh wage compression
i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8218722.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/main-farage-solution-1.jpg

Wage compression has been shown to have very little to do with migration and the only sectors that have some evidence to show a minor amount of compression is care work, waiting staff and cleaning.

>UKIP/BREXIT: muh hospital waiting times
Hospital waiting times are being driven up by our own ageing population. Migrants are typically younger people who require far less medical attention than older people. Especially EU migration where most are people looking to work. theconversation.com/the-truth-about-migrants-and-the-nhs-60908

>UKIP/BREXIT: le EU is an authoritarian undemocratic piece of shit

An authoritarian government? Have you seen the UK government? They wish to ban porn, track all of your online activity by your ISP and our current PM has reportedly been using her faith as a reason to not back drug reform. The EU has attempted numerous times to protect UK industry, Chinese steel being a recent example - that our government veto'd.

>..labour and toies fucked us up, vote UKEEEEEEP
You claim Labour and Conservatives have failed us, yet you are pushing us down a route that will lead to continual Conservative governance because UKIP cannot put up a worth while fight against the mainstream parties.

I get the concept, but it seems high cost, who will pay for the saftey of the higher rails?

I think if the solution to rail monopoly was as simple as multi-tier, theyd have figured it out by 1850

Would there not still be competitive pressure based on platform (after all it's much easier to not have to climb stairs, unless you're at a high city, in which case the lower platform is disadvantaged.)

Ignoring the obvious issue that the upkeep on two tracks won't be recouped in the competitive costs of one (unless you charge all operators for the upkeep of their segment, but even then the lower segment could leave the supporting structure unmaintained knowing that their competitor's track will go out with them

>Lords amendments need to go through commons anyway, kind of makes them a bit pointless, they should just allow expert advisors in commons as in tribunals.
Good point, at the moment it is just a race to see who can get the most peers in which leads to the current overcrowding problem that exists, the Lords could go tomorrow and there would be no problem in my opinion, it is just unnecessary bureaucracy.

Your guys idea of making life better for British citizens is warped, putting us under continual tory governance, increasing taxes and isolating us from our biggest trade partner and using immigration as a reason for this - when in actual fact immigration is going to need to increase to see us out of this mess, not decrease. With us leaving the single-market and the EEA that means our tax income from London will decrease since the financial services there will move in order to be able to trade their services within the market. Keep in mind that London accounts for almost 1/3 of the UK tax income and a majority of that tax comes from financial services.

You have voted to make us worse off under the false pretence of taking back "sovereignty" which we have always had. Painting the EU as some dictatorship when the major players within the EU were us and Germany!

It is a joke to conclude that UKIP is anything but a party of people who don't know a better way to express their anger, if that offends your sensibilities then I am sorry but sometimes the truth hurts.

Stop falling for memes, get off of brit/pol/, stop fapping over Farage, and get into the real world. You're pretty much slow fucks LARPing while everyone else is in the real world.

>Shaw, who said he was aware of the betting promotion prior to the match, played the incident - in which he ate the pie while standing by the substitutes' bench - down as "a bit of fun".
>"We are told we are not allowed to gamble as it is full-time professional football," Shaw told BBC Radio 4's World at One programme. "In no way did I put anyone in jeopardy of that - this is not the case here, this is just a bit of fun and me being hungry."

Aww, poor Shaw

Fuck off shill

>le immigration is necessary meme

>tfw banned from 8ch's brit/pol/ for being a bisexual tranny
kek

Also fuck that Milo faggot, so many gay men are creepy and it's really no surprise a gay catholic is a pedo

I can't help but see this incident as karma for him being an Uncle Tom pandering to the right and gaining their acceptance partially by shitting on alt-right / right wing trannies like myself and just shitting on other LGBTs in general

He should've worked to make other sexual degenerates like me see the threat of Islam and go conservative, but instead he used the community as a joke.

t. tomek

>borderless, identity-less world-citizen type horseshit entirely based upon feelings and forced homogenisation
What do you think?

parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/710a8dbe-1a4a-40be-9d05-4939c5634f01
Come and watch some confused elders blabber about Brexit

Nice argument faggot.

I suppose the truth does hurt to you LARPing right wing idiots

Well lets see your idea.

I don't know, this is just a draft, that can be worked out later. Also, its not "high cost", the Tories are just tight arses.

>theyd have figured it out by 1850

They thought cars were the future so they never bothered looking into it.

>Would there not still be competitive pressure based on platform

Just make lifts.

>unless you charge all operators for the upkeep of their segment

I don't think it would cost a lot, there's tracks on bridges that are still around after 100 years.

>4+Sup Forums
Why?

I agree with the princple that we need a house not bound to popular vote, but it needs to be merit based and it needs to have authority, but its a really weird balance between democracy here.

As I said in the last thread, I don't think it is possible to have a sustainable government larger than tribal government, the more people involved, the greyer the utilitatianism, the more people negativley effected.

>tfw no YKTD
Will this be the end of Brit/pol/?

Why would you even go there in the first place?

Sorry, but if maximum profit means becoming a minority in our own homeland then I'll happily take the economic hit

source fag, or it didn't happen

The future is unpredicatable yes, but right now it IS possible to have multi tier tracks, there must be a reason we dont.

>hur minority

you care because?

plus, most of these workers are from eastern europe anyway

migrants help increase GDP

Migration is used as a means of keeping unemployment at a set level to disempower the workforce, making their labour less valuable, it give the employer power to use things like zero day contracts because then they can just say "go on, quit, I don't care, I'll just hire someone else". It is a tool of (((business elites))) and so it is staggering that so much of the left in this country seems to be in favour of it. If the supply of something exceeds it's demand, the supply is devalued, and if the demand of something exceeds it's supply, then the supply's value is increased, this is a basic economic principle.

Furthermore, most pro immigration arguments never seem to account for it but even if we were able to keep up building infrastructure and housing with the demand that it creates, it would mean destroying much of our precious countryside.

love it

we need to encourage people to have children.
1 working person for 1 pension will fuck us up
high immigrantion will fuck us up

>TFW the two trannies are still here

I'm convinced that most of the bleeding heart immigration lovers don't want immigration for the right reasons.

They don't care it costs the government money. They don't care it competes with British culture. They don't care about the issues of housing and the workforce.

They just want to feel good about letting in "youths" and foreigners. That's It. It's not even a philosophical thing for most of them.

>eventual literal extinction of your own people
>"lel why do you care"
I know you're only taking the piss, but it's scary that so many people genuinely don't give a toss about being wiped from existence forever, in such an absurdly short timescale too.

>brit/pol/ still fails to face the fact that the aging white population is the rason of hospital wating times, not immigrants

>brit/pol/ still fails to face the fact that migrants are actually a benefit to us, and do not cause wage compression

>brit/pol/ still fails to face the fact that this current UK government is way WORSE than what we were under brussels

>brit/pol/ still fails to face the fact that UKEEEEEP are the not party for the british people as a whole, and that BREXIT is going to drive us down into a 2nd world shithole in the back alley of an isolated part of Europe.

stay in coincide dissonance, you fucking ''WE WUZ EMPIRE N SHIT'' faggots. You're literally no different to BLM when you post on these ''brit/pol'' threads.

literally a fucking echo chamber full of feelings

>saving thumbnails

?wiped from existance

you're going to die anyway. if you're talking about reproduceing, then who gives a fuck if it's 100% english, 70% english, or 95% central asian? it's still a living being you've contributed to

>TP
Are you the TTPW?

t. other tranny

ugh some books I bought for £30 arrived and they're in shit condition
Now I need to go through the effort of sending them all back. Not comfy.

I wasn't going to bring that stuff up again, I was just asking the other poster why they were visiting cripplechan in the first place.

Ahh continue fishing good sir

Let's not shit up the thread again.

so you are?
I use 8ch for /politics/

What books did you buy?

Eddie Hitler

>>brit/pol/ still fails to face the fact that migrants are actually a benefit to us, and do not cause wage compression

>Oy vey! A labour shortage! Now we won't be able to turn Hungary into another one of our dirt-cheap workhouses!

desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu

I've made some great and valid points above and you still fail to answer

TTPW? I don't know what you're talking about.

>the only sectors that have some evidence to show a minor amount of compression is care work, waiting staff and cleaning

Using this to suggest that immigrants have no affect on wages is such an obvious fallacy. The fact that depreciation has been minor doesn't mean there hasn't been stagnation. I've made a simple graph to illustrate this point for you

All of George MacDonald Fraser's books.

source? also hungry is a different country

I'm talking about this country

>Let's not shit up the thread again.
>adopted a trip for the sole purpose of shitting threads up and pretending he's a tranny
Neck yourself.

It was big when I saved it :(
>you'll personally die at some point so don't bother caring about anything or thinking of things bigger than yourself
You know, I've actually met people who think this (all were young, mildly-depressed self-loathers). That level of Nihilism and sheer disinterest in the world never fails to amaze me.

I would vote for Edward Elizabeth Hitler.

>Better-known for low-paid jobs than generous incentive packages, McDonald’s Corp. is facing a labor shortage so dire in Hungary that it’s offering free rooms to out-of-town burger flippers.

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-05/mcdonald-s-free-housing-lays-bare-eastern-europe-s-labor-crunch


Aren't labour shortages awesome?
Labour shortages basically mean everyone has a job, and the job has good security and you'll get pay rises because they can't easily replace you.
Of course a "labour shortage" is only bad for CEOs who don't care if everyone is already employed and happy and seeing their wages rise, because a CEO always wants more, cheaper employees.

Oh, and a labour shortage might even get you free accommodation as in the above example.

Isn't is great when the population at large sees wage rises and not just the CEOs?

I agree with your greentext points

It's mainly the tripfags that are UKIP
Some anons are fashy, some centrist.
And a very select few heroes, believe humans are naturally co-operative ;^)

i wouldn't bother baiting out the imbeciles though
eventually they'll drop some 3 year old copypasta and refuse your rebuttal, racists are idiots - it's cognitive dissonance based on our old biological fears.

>d'you fink i need evidence to hate immiegrants????

And nobody will address the problems with the UK system, just more >muh glorious parliament >moggy for king

Oh okay so excess labour keeps wages down in Hungary but not in the UK.
Okay.
Does the law of gravity work in Hungary? Or is that different over there as well?

in Sup Forums's expert opinion, who should I vote for as a libertarian?

It's how all tripscum are born. A sudden realisation that they get more attention that way.

They came for the anti-Milo threads, they stayed to shit up brit/pol/.

CTR, please leave already.

>That gif

>Tranny.

Get out.

>libertarian
>asking other people how to vote

back 2 school with u

this is why the #1 rule for brit/pol/ exists:
DO NOT REPLY TO TRIPFAGS

oh sorry, did i say something politically incorrect?
fkooffff

Do we even have any party that is remotely close to being Libertarian?

...

youtube.com/watch?v=M-aUGIYK7WU

You should vote Ukip regardless of your economic views. Our number one priority is decreasing immigration, everything else comes second. They're pretty economically right-wing anyway, though they put on a show of caring about things like the NHS in order to appeal to working people

Different people and different system.

Not everything is pitch perfect

>brit/pol/ still fails to face the fact that the aging white population is the rason of hospital wating times, not immigrants.

Of course, Hospital waiting times are the only source of problems with the healthcare system. It's ok guys, the NHS has only one problem and it's nothing to do with immigrants. We can all stop posting now!

>>brit/pol/ still fails to face the fact that migrants are actually a benefit to us, and do not cause wage compression.

Supply and Demand is literally the most basic economic fact imaginable. Only a fool would try to argue that increasing the work force somehow leads to higher wages.

>>brit/pol/ still fails to face the fact that this current UK government is way WORSE than what we were under brussels.

This heavily implies that a government that is no longer bound by EU legislation won't be under an increased level of scrutiny as there's now no higher power to pass the buck to.

>>brit/pol/ still fails to face the fact that UKEEEEEP are the not party for the british people as a whole, and that BREXIT is going to drive us down into a 2nd world shithole in the back alley of an isolated part of Europe.

Does anyone here really shill for UKIP anymore? I'm just patiently waiting for the civil unrest to occur.

If you can't understand the universal principle of supply and demand then there's no saving you

Dont waste your life with this red pill racist bullshit. I wasted my teenage years in the EDL and it just made my life worse and made me miserable, nothing more than a glorified criminal gang.

Hating some cunt for his race, ethnicity, nationality etc... is worthless, and hurling verbal or physical abuse at them makes you trash. I know because i was that worthless piece of trash growing up. When I looked up some of the people I used to be involved with, they were just the same underclass violent criminal trash.

Get a fucking job, get a fucking girlfriend and look after yourself and your family. Don't waste time with this shit.

fight me, facsy : p

He's just a shitposter messing about, take no notice

>Hating some cunt for his race, ethnicity, nationality etc

You seem to fail to realise that not all of us here are complete mongs who lack a higher understanding of right wing thought.

>he thinks everything is about blind hatred for other people

Retard. But you are right. Wasting time worrying about everything does none of us any good.

I don't hate people for their race. But I don't think they belong in this country. And people putting their heads in the sand like you're doing now is what got us in this mess

What're you doing about it?
>shitposting on a taiwanese LED repair forum
>giving ebil looks on da bus @ pakis
>voting muh ukip

Bring on the fuckin' revolution. Can anyone else feel it in the air?

>Of course, Hospital waiting times are the only source of problems with the healthcare system. It's ok guys, the NHS has only one problem and it's nothing to do with immigrants. We can all stop posting now!
actually, if you see an immigrant in a state funded hospital, they're most likely treating you, instead of being in your line

>Supply and Demand is literally the most basic economic fact imaginable. Only a fool would try to argue that increasing the work force somehow leads to higher wages.

so show me your proof? In THIS country btw, not in some second world country.


>Does anyone here really shill for UKIP anymore? I'm just patiently waiting for the civil unrest to occur.
>civil unrest

This is the LARPing i'm talking about.

Also, you aren't going to shill ofr UKEEEEP, then who are you going to vote? No one.

What are YOU doing about it?

Why are you responding to these people?

Pretty blatant reddit has arrived desu

I'm a bit thick, soz

What would you have me do? Storm Westminster?

>First time the BBC is unbiased is when the sodomite gets exposed as a pedophile (something typical of every single gay) with shit like "well he didn't TECHNICALLY say it you bigot"
Really gets those almonds toasting.

...

Is anyone watching the debate?
bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-39033426

can't handle an argument
>shills REEE
>reddit
>newfag

same thing every time.
if you want immigrants /out/ then you should be able to win an argument on it.
if you want a cosy echochamber I suggest you go to reddit.

Sup Forums is not a right wing board

that depends what you want.