If the average climate temperature were to rise by 10 degrees every 1000 years on average, and it were to positively correlate within 5 years of us releasing greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, statistically, there would be only a 1% chance it were a coincidence. What are the arguments against significant man-made climate change that aren't "It's happened before"?
The fact you faggots push this shit so hard automatically makes me a skeptic. Challenging science is a normal process in scientific method, go worship your black science man some more you absolutely faggot
Ryder Jenkins
>were to positively correlate within 5 years of us releasing greenhouse gases into the atmosphere,
What 5 years? Humans have been releasing "greenhouse gases" for over a century.
>And then there's the photos depicting the Arctic's sea ice, which has been in decline for decades. >The photo on the left was taken in 1984, while the one on the right was taken in 2016. The amount of ice consistently there has gone from 718,000 square miles in 1984 to 42,000 square miles in 2016:
How are these "photos"? These are CGI, every fool can see that. And which date in 1984 and which day in 2016? Because seasons make a huge difference in arctic sea ice cover. This is not a single source referenced in the article. They are pulling this out of their asses.
Jacob Hill
If you're gonna meme do it properly roody poo
Colton James
NASA is a pozzed organization. They haven't made any significant progress since the Cold War.
Anthony Nguyen
>climate change is real >it isnt man made Pick 2 and kys
Camden Morris
>what are the arguments against it that arent "It's happened before" dismissing valid arguments against you isnt a way to prove your point shill
the main argument isnt that the climate isnt changing at all, its that its 100% man made like you always claim
stop using this strawmanned argument every single time you bitch about climate change
Ayden Cook
>photographs
Logan Gray
*is that it isnt 100% man made
Kayden Walker
Yes. The only thing you "scientists" go by is that when there is less co2 the world is cooler. During ice ages. Ok, cool.
What about the world's natural state being ice free and the co2 levels being fifteen times as high in the dinosaur era?
Co2 is the highest it has been in 140.000 years. Before that it was low due to ice age. Before the ice age it was wayyyy higher than now.
It only means it's unhealthy for humans, doesn't mean it's unhealthy for the planet.
More CO2, more fauna.
Oliver Hernandez
flora*
Julian Campbell
not an argument
Justin Johnson
Lol they have no dates associated with that image. It really just looks like a seasonal ice shrinkage between winter and summer.
Oliver Wright
Can NASA release a graph showing the Earth's entire polar cap history? What did the caps look like 500 years ago? 1000 years ago? etc? This matters.
Christopher Wilson
its not like we cant adapt either, its not going to change as fast as in the day after tomorrow or some shit
Easton Evans
>roody poo Now there's a word I haven't heard in a long, long time.
Aiden Gutierrez
Why are the water levels on the coastal regions not raised?
If that much ice melted the mainland water borders would look much different
Sebastian Torres
Well they have made quite a few WRONG predictions over the years. Also, they still can't prove or explain why this is happening.
Cameron Murphy
Valid
Explain why I should give a fuck when I don't even own shares in an oil company let alone own a vehicle. Why the fuck should I be taxed for conglomerate greed.
Oh right you can't you can only bitch how irresponsible I am and how I should do more for the environment despite how little to no damage I do it.
Philanthropy is the disease and we are the cure.
Jackson Richardson
"It's happened before," isn't a valid argument. That climate change has happened before is irrelevant to the question of whether there is such a thing as significant man-made climate change or whether it should be a legitimate concern. I'm not a shill just because my post asks you to defend yourself, retard.
Charles Hall
This.
Fuck anybody who pretends to have any sympathy for the Earth. The Earth is fine, and will be fine until it is swallowed up by the sun.
Dominic Howard
Can't wait for my 70's and 80's when I get to tell the young ones about the time Leftists lauded that the Earth was doomed unless we stop oil drilling and CO2 emissions IMMEDIATELY or we die off due to the planet being inhospitable.
I really look forward to the day. Then kids will learn of such delusions unless it wasn't already public knowledge. But knowing Leftists, they are the master of word (without action, mind you) so they'll most likely spin their failures toward the trash problems of the ocean and find a way to shift perspective on to the dying reefs and aquatic life.
climate change is real.... not caused by humans or getting worse bc of humans
Samuel Gonzalez
who is this semen demon?
Luke Kelly
stop posting trannies >:(
Tyler Ortiz
stop pretending to be an oldfag peanut butter
Alexander Garcia
>Still no proof it's man made
Juan Sullivan
global warming/climate change is in large part a scam. it is an industry unto itself and they want worldwide "carbon taxes" on top of that. it is an insidious thing far beyond that even.
you won't understand wtf i'm talking about unless you look into these things for yourself. so, you can do that (takes effort)... or (more likely) you'll just write me/trump off as anti-science hillbillies or whatever. that's the easier option as you're being told to do that by those that follow that agenda.
did you know having ice cap is an anomaly? did you know that the earth has been ice cap free for ~90% of its existence? did you know by definition ice caps only exist during ice ages? did you know we are at the tail end of a CURRENT ice age now? did you know the caps extended as far down as missouri/kentucky just 20,000 years ago and have been receding ever since that peak? did you know the caps are going bye-bye even if every person on the planet disappeared 20,000 years ago?
THE OCEAN'S RELEASE *ALL ON ITS OWN* IS FAR LARGER AND MORE IMPORTANTLY *OUT ACCELERATING* MANS CONTRIBUTION
THE OCEAN IS RELEASING MORE DUE TO WARMER TEMPS (WARMER WATER = IT'S A FAR LESS EFFECTIVE C02 SINK)
IF HUMANS NEVER AROSE CO2 WOULD BE INCREASING AT ALMOST THE EXACT SAME RATE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW
THIS HAPPENS AT THE END OF EVERY ICE AGE
STOP BEING SO FUCKING GULLIBLE AND LAZY
LOOK INTO THINGS FOR YOURSELF AND STOP TAKING WHAT THE MSM, EPA.GOV AND NASA.GOV ETC. TELL YOU AT FACE VALUE, YOU LAZY SHITS. IT IS ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL.
ICE AGES AND PERMANENT ICE *ARE AN ANOMALY*
BY DEFINITION AN "ICE AGE" IS WHEN THE EARTH HAS PERMANENT ICE SHELVES
WE HAD ICE A MILE THINK IN CINCINNATI JUST 20,000 YEARS AGO
THE PLANET IS WARMING AND THE CAPS ARE METLING
THAT MEANS = MORE CO2, SEA RISE AND WEATHER PATTERN CHANGES
WE CAN'T STOP OR ALTER IT, WE WILL ADAPT JUST FINE
STOP BEING SCARED INTO TAX SCHEMES AND GLOBALIST POWER PLAYS YOUR DUMBED DOWN ZOMBIES
Julian Butler
Nobody gives a shit. You won't put down your iPhone, so stop virtue signalling
Nolan Gomez
>Challenging science is a normal process in scientific method Challenging science WITH SCIENCE is the normal process in scientific method.
>The fact you faggots push this shit so hard automatically makes me a skeptic. They also push hard that you shouldn't chug bleach. Just saying.
>And which date in 1984 and which day in 2016? September for both, exact date not given >This is not a single source referenced in the article. Literally a linked source in the first line of the first paragraph. climate.nasa.gov/images-of-change?id=591#591-older-thicker-arctic-sea-ice-declines >How are these "photos"? These are CGI, every fool can see that. They've been color coded for clarity.
Tyler Martinez
climate change is a thing. it happens everyday fucknut.
Dominic King
I advocate using up all available unrenewable natural resources immediately.
When they're gone, that's it. Earth gets a headstart on repairing itself with a massive earthquake in a couple millenia.
The rest of us better adapt. What better incentive for renewable energy sources than to have no more dinosaur juice? Our total footprint is a blip on this planet's geological age.
t. decades practicing doomist
Ayden Foster
its almost like earth is its own thing and doesn't give a shit about us
im not saying that CO2 isn't speeding it up, though.
if you're really worried about it stop eating so much meat. until then leave my cars alone.
the hole in the ozone and the trash island are fake, scientists shill to further their own agendas just like everyone else on this gay earth
Michael Evans
haha ur gay
Ethan Diaz
>when you'd never believe it until you habeeb it but it takes you ten fucking years and you still don't get it at all twinkie house :(
Hunter Wright
>Challenging science WITH SCIENCE is the normal process in scientific method. Still waiting on your (((science))). The sources you people tout around always rely on the credibility of some other person, making it literally impossible to argue the merit of the science over this russian hacking forum. Or in other words: >not an argument.
Nathaniel Lopez
The issue isn't if it's happening. It's if it's man made.
Cooper Morris
Yes. Thanks for the clear up Burgerbro
Colton Bell
>They also push hard that you shouldn't chug bleach. Just saying. Why do shills always out themselves with the bleach thing? I don't quite understand why they all make constant references to bleach when they tell you to kill yourself.
Andrew Reed
>Global warming is happening! >Quick, white countries! Destroy your economies right this very second while India and China and Africa have to do absolutely nothing to curb their own pollution!
Liam Nelson
Appeal to authority.
Xavier Smith
>photographs >pic related Learn2vocabulary
Eli Reed
Also, daily reminder that the discovery of the El Nino/La Nina cycle heavily discredits the "studies" climate lobbyist constantly quote, as the (roughly) 10 year cycle explains a lot of the phenomena used in the dated studies from the turn of the century.
So think about "greenhouse is man made" if it is one of two natural states.
Carson Rogers
>They're been color coded for clarity. The same as Obama's birth certificate being reworked and recreated using another's certificate from the same area, ie forged for clarity. That sounds like nonsense to me.
Jason Gray
There's no such thing as challenging science with science, you jack. The 'challenge' would happen before the 'science' were even conducted. You're basically just fallaciously whining about the notion that science is the only avenue to truth, presumably because it makes you feel intelligent, presumably, ironically, because you are incapable of independent thought.
Zachary Price
This global water rising thing sits tight with the age of aquarius.
Coincidence; i don't know but so much water since the beginning of the new millenium.
The only tsunamis i've seen before were graphics and drawings on school books.
2 tsunamis in less than 10 years.
Not your sunday wave; some serious shit.
Eli Cooper
Can you reply to any of my posts please?
Since your man made climate change is real.
Do you remember global cooling?
Landon Martinez
This, I encourage all anons to look into "environmentally sustainable living" in cities and see the connections it has to NWO types.
It's about control. It's about making sure people cannot break their chains
Christian Kelly
NASA's own photographic evidence shows that the ice caps have been growing since 2013
Carson Bennett
This is simply not true, during the 90s there were many tsunamis.
Also why were there tsunamis in the 1500s in Japan if there were no cars and factories, wtf.
Owen Roberts
Why the fisheye lens shot? That's far too much curvature for the area covered, doesn't even look realistic.
Also nobody denies climate change, the keyword is anthropogenic, which those dishonest kikes conveniently neglect to mention every single time.
Austin Nguyen
NASA fake the space program because they know the stars are just projections on the ceiling.
Lincoln Russell
I guess i did not pay attention to these 90's tsunamis.
Christopher Myers
>im not saying that CO2 isn't speeding it up, though Hello, moron.
You mean do what it ALWAYS has done? i.e. follow natural earth cycles?
Tyler Clark
>NASA has photographic proof. Proof that "reversing" or "halting" climate change is possible? Wow, we had better deindustrialize the west quickly. Oh wait, they don't have proof.
Sebastian Ortiz
92,93,98,99 Are just some dates that come as example.
80s also a couple
Robert Brown
Because muh Reddit
Blake Turner
no need to call me a moron friendo i just haven't taken that pill yet :)
Yea, I'm pretty sure trump's issue is a lot of people use this hot button issue to manipulate politics. Anonbro was right the debate is what role humans play and how much of the first world has a role to play in it all....india & china alone are rocking the boat....doesn't help the NOAA just got caught lying about data at the behest of Obama
What you're saying is like saying "earthquakes are man made"
Ayden Martin
Nature always changes. The climate always changes. Of course climate is changing. But it changes irrespective of what humans do.
Jacob Turner
60s was as bad as today actually
Brody Bennett
That is an anti-smog initiative
Jaxon Harris
I live on a beach, in a beachhouse. Rising water would fuck me over fast.
Overall, tides have not changed.
David Myers
F-F-F-fake news!! right, g-guys????
Nathan Long
Lol look at NASA's photos of the earth from 1960 to now and tell me they aren't a credible source. The earth aparantley was more rounded and fuckig orange in the 70s, who knew.
Hunter Wright
>listening to NASA
Christian Foster
“The development of clean energy is very important if we are to keep the promises made in the Paris agreement,” - quote from the article
"The Paris Agreement’s central aim is to strengthen the global response to the threat of climate change by keeping a global temperature rise this century well below 2 degrees Celsius" - From the "Paris agreement"
No what I meant was, there is no way to actually claim these to be man made when they were present in days before.
No conspiracy theory. Just saying that tsunamis have always been there due to the earth quakes that make them.
Nolan Edwards
I'll give you a high altitude balloon and a Nikon, we'll see if you can get some useful images without computer representations and compositing.
James Smith
thats a dude
Kevin Torres
>solar farms
It's still shit
Ethan Ramirez
>hole in the ozone was fake nah. Actual ozone degradation occurred due specifically to one type of aerosol, which is banned pretty much everywhere now. There are a few chemicals capable of fucking p the ozone layer, and they're petty much all never used or banned.
Brayden Miller
Description of the pic OP posted:
>And then there's the photos depicting the Arctic's sea ice, which has been in decline for decades. The photo on the left was taken in 1984, while the one on the right was taken in 2016. The amount of ice consistently there has gone from 718,000 square miles in 1984 to 42,000 square miles in 2016:
Where the fuck does this look like an actual picture? It's a fucking 3d model and the amount of ice probably calculated with some simulation.
>inb4 it's done with a camera that doesn't use light visible for humans.
I did not claim such thing. You try to link my post with your paranoid counter-propaganda.
2 tsunamis of this intensity in less than 10 years with such a level of documentation is a first time thing.
The age of aquarius debate is therefore relevant.
Leo Thompson
Exactly. If the ice caps melt rhe water level will hardly change if at all. You can put some ice in a cup, fill it to the brim with water. And when the ice melts the water doesnt overfill the cup. It stays the same height, or could even lower because of air bubbles in the ice.
Connor Gonzalez
Propaganda? Historical records of the same thing happening in history?
Are you insane?
Bentley Sanders
Because nothing can match the effectiveness of the new environmentally friendly formula from Clorox Green.
Adrian Davis
To compare my post to "man made earthquake" is indeed propaganda.
I am glad that you care about my mental health.
John Long
Climate change being manmade is what made me become a radical centrist and abandon the right wring. The elites WANT you to succumb to left v right ideology because THEY WIN BOTH WAYS. Knowing this differentiates old/pol/ from nu/pol/. Stop falling for lesser evils and kill evil altogether.
Xavier Cruz
why does this look like cgi or photoshop
not trying to be pro/anti climate change, why not just show us a fucking real unedited image.....
Adrian White
Actually you said
>This global water rising thing sits tight with the age of aquarius. It is well known Neptune has vowed to never hurt man again. >Coincidence; i don't know but so much water since the beginning of the new millenium. What is Rainfall of 26,470 mm in Cherrapunji, India, in 1860-1861. >The only tsunamis i've seen before were graphics and drawings on school books. What are the tsunamis in 1992,1993,1994,1998 and 1999 >2 tsunamis in less than 10 years. Actually more than 10 >Not your sunday wave; some serious shit. What are Earth Quakes on Islands and near coast lines? Look up the Crete Earthquake circa 350 AD killing more people than any modern tsunami.
You were the one starting with conspiracy shit.
Joshua Richardson
Famous chick with dick Bailey Jay.
Michael Davis
what software is that, Photoshop? Why don't they use a nice background of the firmament?