Alright Sup Forums, consider a person growing without a parent. Want to look at all 4 possibilities: boy without father...

Alright Sup Forums, consider a person growing without a parent. Want to look at all 4 possibilities: boy without father, boy without mother, girl without mother and a girl without father. Can it be related to the further development of liberal ideologies and/or cuckoldry/feminism (for children without fathers)? Is there any way to replicate the missing parent experience through friendship or other means, and if possible - will it be able to sway their political ideology?

Has there been any studies on this, aside from Freud/Jung and "Oedipus complex" meme?

I feel like this is the key to understanding the liberal brain.

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it seems to me like single mothers are shit parents whereas single fathers usually can do the job properly. so a strong male influence should lead to higher functionality in life

Hovewer won't it affect the daughter if she didn't have any motherly figure? She would grow up strong as she had only male influence in her life, but would she be able to become a successful mother later?

>would she be able to become a successful mother later
i would say yes because one of the biggest masculine virtues is overcoming difficult times to persevere and grow stronger because of it

Had a single mom, who is a bleeding heart liberal, turned far right as soon as the testosterone kicked in at 14

I had a single mother, who is a bleeding heart liberal, and I turned far right as soon as the testosterone kicked in at puberty

That's interesting. I wish there was some kind of statistic on this.
That's really interesting. Care to share your story?
Didn't you get a lot of influence from your mother? Did she try to convert you to being a liberal? What was her reaction to you being on the right?

I can only provide anecdotal evidence, my best female friend grew up without a dad and she turned out to be desentisized cum-already-and-leave-me kind of girl. She's pretty liberal for serbian standards but still no where near US tier

>pretty liberal by serbian standards

you mean she let's non-family members fuck her?

>boy without mother
>tfw neet with anger issues

I don't speak for others but "masculinity" for me became nihilism.

Without father has shown to be extremely destructive for both boys and girls

There simply hasn't be enough study to see the effects of single father. Aside from widowers how often to males get full custody of a child

Id say yes but for a different reason. A traditional health family has a male as the head of the family (the patriarchy) I imagined be having no head of the family has great negative results than missing the second in charge, so to speak.

I could be way off base though. It's hard to say with single fathers because unless women they very rarely get left with them from the mother ditching, so it's extremely rare he's going to be a shitty father in the first place

That's still interesting. Do you know whether her mother was liberal or not?
Checked.
Have you ever known your mother? What is your father like? Did you take after him? How did he raise you?

Religion is simply a way to come up with an ideal father for self-regulatory purposes.

I knew my mother, she ended up in the hospital when i was 5 and died after 1/2 years.
My father became an alcoholic after she died.

>how did he raise you?
With beatings and "i don't give a shit" attitude.
He still cared about me and did everything he could despite being some kind of fuckup.

>Has there been any studies on this, aside from Freud/Jung and "Oedipus complex" meme?
No studies to link you, but pretty sure this is pretty widely accepted:
Girls who grow up w/o a father figure in the household will physically mature much faster than those that do, as in they grow breasts and start menstruating earlier and start desiring sexual partners. I believe the theory is that their physical bodies "think" that the father is dead and therefore they need to attract a mate/protector/provider and their bodies "think" they are in dangerous times (as in the men have been killed off) and must start producing replacement offspring. This behavior is OK for when humans ARE in dangerous times but causes obvious problems when they aren't.

That is true, however religion also serves the purpose of inflicting morals upon you. So even in a single-parent family you are less likely to go left if you are raised to be religious.
Yeah, the fact that the mother has the priority of getting a hold of a child really sucks. Well, if you wanna go to a legal discussion - in almost all civilized countries during the divorse mother gets a shit ton of privileges, unlike fathers.

My initial idea is that one parent provides the ideal image of a future partner (i.e. a girl would search for a husband that is similar to her father) and the second one provides an ideal image of how a person should act (i.e. daughter takes after the mother). This would indeed support your idea of father being head of the family, so that a son could understand how to be one too.

Unfortunately there are not enough studies since most people consider psychoanalysis to be a huge meme with closeted faggots like Freud not helping fix this idea.

I was raised by a single mother and I consider myself to be far right.

much more rare is for an older male/father figure to take time out of the shit he does to raise people not related to them. Hence the cuck meme / wife's son. faggots tend to be this kind of young directionless males lacking in mentorship who gravitate towards a father figure who'll smash their boipussy in exchange for validation. Hell, ancient Greek society fully institutionalized this practice as a social norm.

Yup. I'm saying most neets from shit families of all kinds could overcome their self-control issues, even later in life, by joining a religion and getting involved.

My BF is a social worker and he claims that women take child custody for granted and usually use kids to extort everything they want from the man.

Single men are usuall better parents, because they see their kids as their responsibility and not a hobby.

Women see their kids as tools and bargaining chips.

Well, that really sucks. Still - good thing you realise he tried to raise you and didn't actually ditch you to be on your own. I can't really say he was a great fatherly figure, but it seems he still did an alright job of making a rational-thinking person out of you.
Huh, that's interesting. Maybe the left could be swayed by converting them to some christianity flavour. Unless they are braindead and just follow the "muh ateism" herd - they may be able to see the benefits of being religious, thus gradually rejecting their ways.
I'll have to study a bit on that, I guess.
Wasn't the greek pederasty meme debunked since there was no actual penetration, but rather the elder placed his dick in between the boy's buttocks and letting it rest there for some time? Not talking about warriors, but rather your ordinary citizens.

Worth questioning whether the inversion of those roles could be a factor in homosexuality.

A child regardless of gender will definitely grow up fucked up without a proper father in their life.

A single mother is a vain, bitter, selfish irresponsible small minded cunt who is hateful of all men when in reality the problem is her choice of men. They become crazy and shove their idiotic, liberal ideologies down their kids throat.

Boys with single mothers will most likely grow up hateful of their own sex, feminized, and ofcourse liberal. Girls with single mothers will just follow their whore mothers footsteps and become whores, desperate for any and all male attention that they lacked in their childhood. Degeneracy will be rampant within both.

In the case of divorced parents its still bad, but there is a chance if the child sees their father atleast once in a while. Though this isn't enough, women feel they are somehow more entitled to the kid and the kid couldn't live without her even in their fathers care when in reality single mothers are the source of liberal mental disease.

source: grew up with my mother, was blue pilled feminized scum for most of my life. All the people I know with single mothers are worse and often resort to drug/alcohol addiction.

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I grew up without my father in the picture and my mother had me at age 16 so she wasn't able to take care of me and ended up giving the job to my grandparents ( they can pass as my parents anyway, mid 50s )

I got to see my dad for a few months every weekend when was on work release from prison back when I was 12, but then he got himself locked back up after being released and I told him I never want him to contact me again

I won't lie I have some pretty bad anger issues and although I'm not diagnosed I probably suffer from a host of mental illnesses which appear every so often in my family's bloodline. However at the same time I try my best to live a good moral life and I enjoy making other people happy and seeing people smiling makes me feel better

also, seem to remember there being something along the lines of households that had emotionally detached father figures combined with emotionally dominating mothers had a higher chance of producing males who had sought out sexual relationships with men, something along the lines of what said.

Studies of this sort today would probably considered politically incorrect, so they be considered invalid right now. Given the SJW world today, there's probably no way to actually do a modern study that could valid prove or disprove b/c it would considered offensive.

IIRC, these type of situations are what the current gay conversion therapies are working off of. They've abandoned the idea that all gays can be converted but the few who still support it think that these type of gays can be (the ones who basically look for a father figure as their sexual partner but they feel they aren't really sexually attracted men ).

No idea if its total bullshit or not, just shit I've stumbled across. There's vids on youtube about these gay conversion grops.

A shit single mother is infinitely better than a father that leaves. The only reason single fathers seem better to you is because a shit single father doesn't exist, they just leave.

Indeed, the whole idea behind LGBT is the failure of self-identification. Of course there may be medical cases of mutation (so that a boy is indeed born gay), but unless we have some proper research (and thanks to human rights we can't have even volunteer human test subjects) - it's impossible to prove whether a person can be born gay or not. I personally assume that it is possible, however the chance of a gay person actually being born this way is extremely low.
All other cases are homosexual by choice, and indeed it may be an influence of a single-parent family (or a same-sex family, of course).
Oh shit, thanks, this article is right up my alley.
Damn, that's tough life you're living. Did you learn from the start that you were being raised by your grandparents? Have you had any influence from your mother, and how often did you see/communicate with her? Also - do you think your grandparents did a good job of raising you?
Yeah, the no-father scenario seems to have similar outcome in most cases. It's quite sad to see almost inexistant cases of children being properly raised by a single parent.
Can you tell how you became redpilled? What pushed you to a transition? And also - you do condemn your previous lifestyle, right? Do you blame your mother for raising you the way you were raised?
Indeed, I've read on similar cases, like brothel syndrome - basicly the idea of females syncronising their menstrual cycles when they exist in female-only communities (like dorms or brothels) for most of their time.

The thing with gay conversion is that these people seek the experience of having a strong same-sex figure, thus the homosex as the fastest way to achieve ultimate intimacy (since sex hasn't been completely "liberated" from it's sacredness yet). The therapy MAY be successful if a person considers his experience fullfilled, but the problem is that nobody can actually say what kind of experience they are searching for, thus the "not every gay can be converted" problem.

My sister and I were raised by our father after my mother dies when we were children.

My sister had the advantage of 10 years of formative time with my mother and 2 parents, and was very confident, pursued both a career and then gave it up for family, had fairly stable relationships.

I was very young when she died and not having a mother gave me confidence issues and trouble interacting and relating to other people (perhaps I was not socialised well with other kids at a young age by my father), but a strong father figure instilled good morals, and to question the world around me, and conservative values (more so than him). I seek stable relationships but cannot keep them due to insecurity and I'm sure this is mummy and abandonment issues.

Maybe if I was older when she died I would have been better adjusted, but seeing those who are raised by single mothers being so much more common, and all of them narcissistic, effeminate and very liberal, most gays are form this background and most women who are sluts seeking male attention also. I have to think being raised by a single mother is far worse for people and for civilisation as a whole.

Well, good thing your life turned out ot be alright. That's a very interesting story you've got, being raised by a strong father without a mother. Thanks a lot for sharing.

Also - I'd still advice to seek therapy concerning your insecurities. You may be able to overcome them now, but at some point you'll have to face them in order to build a strong family, and it's better to do it early.

Therapy is a tool for the Jew.

I manage fine, but I am aware it is there and of its cause. I have to think that a male role model is really critical for kids, and more so than a female past the critical childhood years of nurturing. I think I mothers roll is mostly done once a child is maybe 5-6 years old, and a fathers roll in discipline is most important for the formative years of 7-11.

My mother was a bitter feminist psycho who preached hatred of men. I grew up being ashamed of being a boy and rejected manliness. She also gave terrible advice for when I was bullied at school by niggers, telling me to be empathetic towards them as they're "troubled". I got in trouble for calling one of the niggers a nigger, and she told me to never do it again as they're "people like us". During my teens I was one of those effeminate white boys who thought nigger culture was cool, hated other boys, hung around with degenerate sluts, and was suicidal but didn't know why. I despise my mother for raising me that way, it felt like my childhood was stolen.

What saved me in the end was that, though while divorced, my father was around sometimes. He served in the Russian army and taught me how to fight. Since my mothers advice obviously failed, I began to listen to my father more, which was to stand up for myself and be a man.

That advice from my father led to me eventually going from a liberal anti-western SJW feminist lowlife to embracing my manliness, realizing I was right all along about niggers, realizing there was nothing wrong with being white, with strength and masculinity, realizing most women are devoid of all logic and are indeed inferior to men. This was way before I discovered Sup Forums.

And now I see my aunt doing the same exact thing to my cousin- divorced the father, raising him to be an effeminate, miserable, manhating liberal. I'm trying to teach him to listen to his father more, thankfully he's a smart kid and is understanding, but his mothers influence is poisoning his mind despite my efforts.

Women with rights are the worst creatures on the planet. Also, word of advice: if you're raising children and want them to be nationalists, tell them stories about Western history, such as the accomplishments of Alexander and ceasar. I don't know about modern Russian schools, but here they teach garbage that makes white men look evil and barbaric.

I have a different theory on why girls without fathers become sluts.

They simply crave male attention they didn't get from their fathers. They look for any and all boyfriends at a very young age to fill that emptiness. The reason they sleep around so often is because mothers don't really give a damn about if their daughter is having sex as much as fathers do. A father is VERY protective of their daughters and teaches them to never be easy, whereas a single mother not only doesn't say much about it, she sets an example by bringing home boyfriends... I knew a girl with a single mom who only got mad her 14 year old daughter was fucking boys in her house, she didn't really care if she fucked them and came home late at night... disgusting isn't it