Ancient Persians were nordic western European looki

Ancient Persians were nordic western European looki...

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but who says that sort of dumb shit?

Most of the white nationalists on pol/.

lol really how fucking dumb is this place?

lmao you realise all of this "ancient persian art" where they look like arabs are modern jewish forgeries, right? ancient persians were aryans.

haha fucking yes

Ancient Persiens were not nordic western European looki...

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Ancient Persians were never NW European. Here are some Sassanian mosaics from Bishapur.

Point is, Persians still had a formative influence on European ethos, considering Judeo-Christian heritage is largely ripped off Zoroastrianism.

Iranians look the same as they did during Achaemenid and Sassanid times. Only a few genes select for depigmentation and it's not really the determinate factor for race. Persians in Shiraz are the same as fair Persians in the North genetically, skin tone is not a determinate factor for race.

We were never White Europeans.

>We sequenced Early Neolithic genomes from the Zagros region of Iran (eastern Fertile Crescent), where some of the earliest evidence for farming is found, and identify a previously uncharacterized population that is neither ancestral to the first European farmers nor has contributed significantly to the ancestry of modern Europeans. These people are estimated to have separated from Early Neolithic farmers in Anatolia some 46-77,000 years ago and show affinities to modern day Pakistani and Afghan populations, but particularly to Iranian Zoroastrians. We conclude that multiple, genetically differentiated hunter-gatherer populations adopted farming in SW-Asia, that components of pre-Neolithic population structure were preserved as farming spread into neighboring regions, and that the Zagros region was the cradle of eastward expansion.
science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/07/13/science.aaf7943.full

They used a sample from Teppe Hasanlu for the Iron Age Iranian comparison.

Pre-Islamic Persians are still nearly the same as modern Persians, check image.

Iron-Age Iranians (i.e., Achaemenids and Sassanids) are closely to modern-day Iranians.

>determinate
determinant*

Doesn't matter what they were, they're mongol/arab/turk rapespawn now.

Persians are our Indo-European brethren

>Doesn't matter what they were, they're mongol/arab/turk rapespawn now.
Nope, look here:
Iranians are still largely the same.

Also, Judeo-Christian heritage is a rip-off of Zoroastrianism.

The Abrahamic faiths are largely based off Zoroastrianism. The ideas of paradise (Avestan word pairidaēza), transcendental moral dualism, light = goodness & darkness = evil metaphors, angels (yazatas), personified evil figures (e.g., Asmodeus is based off daeva Aēšma), eschatological reward and punishment (Chinvat Bridge), Day of Judgment (Frashokereti), rigid duality between truth (asha) and lie (druj), savior of light (Saoshyant), and the resurrection of the dead (Yasna 19) descended from Zoroastrian influence. Read Chapter 7 of Michael Stausberg's Zarathustra and Zoroastrianism for the most up-to-date scholarly research regarding this topic.

ALSO, the word magic has Persian origin. It etymologically descends from the Greek "magikē tekhnē", which means "art of the magus". Magus(sing.)/Magi(plur.) were priestly cast of Zoroastrians.

Due to R1A, yet we don't see "white" nationalists praising the europids as much as they do one branch of the eurasids, why's that?

The leadership class originally was composed of Indo-European invaders from the north, as was the case in India. The soldiers, as depicted in that bas-relief were not Indo-Europeans.

No, Indo-Iranians of Sintashta culture did not invade the Iranian plateau or North India. Instead, they mixed with local inhabitants and spread their culture.

Indo-Iranians of Sintashta culture do not equal Iron-Age Iranians of Achaemenid and Sassanid empire. The latter had marginal admixture with the former.

Achaemenid and Sassanid Empire began a lot like Mexico, with mixture with Europids and indigenous people, but without invasion.

They ugly and hairy

Doesn't matter. We gave you the concepts of good and evil and their respective metaphors of light and darkness. We showed you the potential for a "transcendental ground of all values".

Check here for more:
Pic is of Ctesiphon, I believe.

>Sassanian

They were Indo-European back in the days of Cyrus and before. By the time of the Sassanians they had become mixed.

'Farsi (فارسی fārsi [fɒːɾˈsiː], is one of the Western Iranian languages within the Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-European language family'

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language

>By the time of the Sassanians they had become mixed.
Lol, no... You're an idiot. Sassanids were still Zoroastrian, and the Seleucid Empire didn't have that much admixture going on with Greeks and Persians.

Sassanids were more important than Achaemenids actually.

I gave you evidence. Indo-Iranians of Sintashta culture were not the same as Iron Age Iranians.

Pic is from a Sassanian mosaic in Bishapur.

This is what Achaemenids most likely resembled going based off genomic data.

what does this even mean you autistic poorsean faggot

iranians and arabs dont look similar at all, are you one of those poorseans with super pale skin that unironically sees themselves as white scandinavians?

Fuck the Persian meme. People forget Assyrian still exits in Northern Iraq, Syria and Turkey. Assyrians number around 3 million and are CHRISTIAN. They also look whiter than this nigger.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_people

Varg Vikernes.

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This is a good post.

Faggot Nordicks and Gercucks stole the Iranian word for noble (Aryan) and everyone thinks we used to be white.

FUCK

>taking a kiwi seriously
user...

Assyrians are pretty cool, but Christianity and all of the Abrahamic traditions are just a rip-off of Zoroastrianism. You can condole with the plight of Assyrians and help them whilst is also doing the same with Persians who want to revive Zoroastrianism within Iran.

It's not all just LARPing. Many Iranians are very sincere with Persian revivalism. I've read a lot on Zoroastrianism.

You mistake white nationalists and nordcucks.

Indo-Iranians of Sintashta culture were technically the first to use the word Aryan, or something equivalent to it, and they were NW or E European genetically.

However, Iron-Age Iranians were only marginally mixed with Indo-Iranians.

Scythians descended mostly from Indo-Iranians and were very fair in complexion, as an example.

Who are you quoting?

Huh?

Bullshit, Persians accepted Islam. Assyrian's believed Ashurism which is older than Zoroastrianism but very similar. Christianity is based.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashurism

>ancient Persians
>posts Macedonian art
Alexander the Great conquered Persia but ancient Persians were the displaced aryans.

Somewhat related, but this does seem like we wuz

The Indo-Iranians of Sintashta culture were genetically the same as Yamnaya people. Please check this graph for the breakdown of Yamnaya ancestry in Europeans.

actually... I'll just leave this here

But Zoroastrianism is largely ripped off of Judaism

Iran's current oil minister
Bijan Zangeneh

I never said monotheism came from Persians.

No, it's not. It's the other way around.

>Sardinians are literally rock throwers
Meds BTFO

The ancient persians during the greek times were described as prettt much white looking, light eyes, dirty blonde hair, and olive skin.

>>posts Macedonian art
Those are bas reliefs from Persepolis... idiot.

Assyria is history mate.

I can't get a good angle. Could only assume you mean the one in white.

Ok then why isn't Judaism older you tard.

These white Iranians are actually Russians when Iran and Russia fought a lot in the 1800s. Basically, during peace treaty, some would migrate to Iran and vice versa.

No, those were the Scythians and Alans that were described as such.

Iranians haven't changed that much in looks. Pashtuns are what boggle me, some of them look pure European

There were kinda of shitskinny people(Elam, dravidians near Balochistan, assyrians and other mesopotomians), but origin iranians aka aryans were pretty white like scythians/sarmatians

These statues are from Pasargade and Persepolis, created by the Achaemenid Persians themselves.

Yes, I can explain why.

No, I gave a graph showing Iron Age Iranians of Achaemenid and Sassanid empires were genetically distinct from Scythians and Sarmatians.

So is Persia but Assyrians are still alive. They also have less Arab influence since they never converted to Islam.

>These white Iranians are actually Russians when Iran and Russia fought a lot in the 1800s

lol wut? Are you rly mad?

i`m quarter transcaucasian persian and i never heard about russians migrated to Iran in 1800`s.

those people were Atlantean colony from after the destruction

Borders changed a lot during those times. I don't have time to explain but that's the gist pretty much.

No they weren't you idiot. Iranics and Iranian tribes were conquering people's who invaded middle eastern, Indian, asian and EUROPEAN tribes and mixed with them.

Scythians and Sarmatians may have had light eyes and colors here and there due to Iranics raping europeans, same goes for why some Scythians and Sarmatians were described as asian looking.

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What's interesting is the Yazidi are still closely related to Persians on PCA autosomal DNA plots. Only a few genes select for depigmentation and so forth.

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>Borders changed a lot during those times

nope, don`t teach me history of my own country

There were no "yuropean" tribes in steppe, except sintashta/yamnaya/andronovo culture, which were actually ancestors of iranian nomads

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>user why do you hate Iran?

someone have the EL PERUANO copypasta?

There is no assyrian majority nation and Christianity isn't even your original religion, lol.

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Why then?

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>origin iranians aka aryans were pretty white like scythians/sarmatians
that's wrong, saka and all southern scythian (Indo-Iranian) branches weren't much whiter than modern day Iranians

No they don't? There is one Swede that does it, probably just to troll.

For every thread he makes, there are 10 of these complaining about it kek

he looks like me :)

No. That's stormfront.

>no persian gf

>due to Iranics raping europeans
that's wrong too, original scythians are of European origin according to kurgan theory which is currently accepted as default one

Scythians and Sarmatians invaded most of Russia, central asia and eastern Europe, do you think there were no asian or European looking people in all these areas?

Iranics never looked western nor eastern european, but closely related to people from the Caucasuses racially I.e.. georgians, Chechens etc..

It's because of the Indo-Iranians of Sintashta culture. They were genetically similar to the Yamnaya people, which Europeans have ancestry with in varying degrees depending on region (check here ).

Persians, Kurds, Lurs, etc. have about 15-20 percent Indo-Iranian ancestry whereas Tajiks have about 30-40 percent.

There were different Iranic/Iranian ethnic groups throughout history. Sogdians, for example, were Eastern Iranians who the Tajiks descend from. They were mongoloid-IndoIranian mix, and they had an important role in the development of Buddhism.

Western Iranians like Persians and Medes never had much Indo-Iranian admixture. I don't know about the Parthians though.

there have never been a thready of exchange of citizen between Iran and Russia.
By migrate if you mean from North caucuses, Georgia, Armenia or Azerbaijan; those were part of Iran that got annexed via war and reaties like the "Treaty of Turkmenchay" from Iran (then Persia)... so they were Persian

>Iranian Fields Medalist
That's strange, she looks as if she could be Southern European...

>which were actually ancestors of iranian nomads
they're as much of "ancestors" of Iranian nomads as ancient Africans are ancestors of Europeans

We're related but don't look like west or east europeans. I'm saying that some Scythians and central asian Iranic tribes acquired light eyes and hair due to interbreeding with lighter europeans through conquest. Originally we never looked like them.

You realise that the small 'unique' part of Nordic DNA is Proto-European and is distantly related to Aboriginals and Dravidians lmao...

Kill all sand nigger

We still overwhelmingly look the same in terms of percentage of population.

Iranians are indo-European/Aryan though, so once upon a time we did look like each other.

Scythians were Eastern European. Greeks that went to Gelonus, for example, commented on how they were fair skinned and fair haired. Scythians as whole aren't the same group of people. West Scythians are mostly European, whereas East Scythians look more like modern day Kazakhs.

They were probably more Ukrainian looking than anything, considering that Ukraine and Russia overlap with predominantly Scythian areas.

Yeah, most likely. I've researched into it.

Scythians originally had light eyes and light/red hair according to archaeology and genetic analysis. They also brought horse riding, culture, language and chariots from steppes with them. Rape train was going the other way around, friend.

Why would Persians be Nordic?
That makes no sense at all.

they were, not like blonde nordic niggers, but like typical russians/byelorussians

>they're as much of "ancestors" of Iranian nomads as ancient Africans are ancestors of Europeans

nah, ancient africans migrated from Africa about 50-60k years ago, it is not even comparible with 1-2k years

>East Scythians look more like modern day Kazakhs

it is meme, cause there were no mongoloids, east turkestan was inhabitated by toharians

My mistake.

Also, is there any truth to the theory that Polish people are the descendants of scythians?

It doesn't, yet non-Nordics think that we think that for some reason. It's pretty strange.

Iranians are Indo-Iranian, which is branch of Indo-European. Important difference.

East Scythians might very well have been the Xiongnu, or mixed with them at the very least. They certainly weren't very organized, militarily or culturally, so they got shitstomped.

If you're referring to scythians/sarmatians as looking iranic which to your mind is synonymous with looking like a persian, well then that's a flawed way of looking at this matter. You see scythians/sarmatians looked like this most likely.

yup... there were multiple mass invasion and mass genocide of Iranians (by the hand of mongols and Islam)
the closest well kept ancient Iranian family lines, still look white.. like the Ismail sect... they had their own government and kept themselves separate from the others; in the Alamut Castle (the inspiration for the assassin's creed)
They look pretty white.
For the rest of Iran, it is a melting pot... and it is not good that the shit genes melted in.

They are Indo-European. There are many branches of it.

What is the important difference?

he's half and half

Theres a small trace of glory left in his ancestry

but it's been Niggerfied

We can all see that obviousl

look at his shit colored skin

>scythians sarmatains don't look like eastern europ-