Ancient Kings of Finland

Based on the medieval sources below, the ruling families of England, Ireland, Normandy, Norway, the Orkney Islands, Russia, Scotland and Sweden - among others - descended from the kings of Kvenland and Finland.

In 97 AD, the Roman historian P.G. Tacitus describes Kvens (Sitones), living north of the Suiones (Swedes), and says that they are led by a woman.

In 320 AD (c.), Nór, a royal Kven descendant of King Fornjót, establishes Norway, based on the information given in the 1230 AD Orkneyinga saga and the 1387 AD Hversu Noregr byggðist ('How Norway was settled'). The royal lineages sprung from him and his brother Gór are discussed in these and other medieval sources.

In 551 AD, the Roman historian Jordanes' writing in the 'De origine actibusque Getarum', a.k.a. Getica, about the 'Vinoviloth' is viewed by many historians as a reference to the Kvens:

And there are beyond these the Eastern Geats (Ostrogothae), Romerike (Raumarici), Rankike (Aeragnaricii), and the most gentle Finni, milder than all the inhabitants of Scandinavia (Scandza). Like them are the Vinoviloth (Kvens) also.

Getica - compiled in Constantinople - tells about the origins and history of the Gothic people. It also mentions the "Adogit" people, living in the far north in Scadinavia ("Scandza"). This is seen as a possible reference to the petty kingdom of Hålogaland, which based on medieval evidence was inhabited by the Kvens in the middle of the first millennium, but perhaps also a long before.

According to Emeritus Professor Kyösti Julku (Kvenland - Kainuunmaa, 1986), in the modern-day Northern Norwegian county of Troms alone there are at least 12 prehistoric Kven place names. During Viking Age, Troms formed the northernmost part of Hålogaland.

Alex Woolf (From Pictland to Alba, 2007) links the name Hålogaland to the Aurora Borealis - the "Northern Lights" -, saying that Hålogaland meant the "Land of the High Fire", "loga" deriving from 'logi', which refers to fire.

In the medieval accounts of Ynglingatal and Skáldskaparmál, "Logi" is described as the personification of fire, a fire giant, and as a "son of Fornjót". In the medieval Orkneyinga saga and the account of 'Hversu Noregr byggðist', Fornjót is described as the King of Finland, Kvenland and Gotland. The royal lineages sprung from his children are discussed in other medieval accounts.

The beginning of the 'Þorsteins saga Víkingssonar' ('Saga of Thorstein son of Víking') discusses King Logi who ruled the country north of Norway. Because Logi was larger and stronger than any other man in land, his name was lengthened from Logi to Hálogi, meaning 'High-Logi', and derived from that name his country became called Hálogaland, "Hálogi's-land" (modern-day Hålogaland, a.k.a. Halogaland).

In 600 AD (c.), according to the 'Old English' poem Wildsith, Finland is ruled by King Caelic.

In 750 AD (c.), the Norna-Gests þáttr saga mentions that the king of Denmark and Sweden Sigurd Ring fought against the invading Finnic Curonians and Kvens in the southernmost part of today's Sweden:

In 760 AD, Kvens and Norse cooperate in battling against the invading Karelians, according to Egil's saga (c. 1240 AD).

In 862 AD (c.), Prince Rurik founds Russia, according to the Primary Chronicle (1113 AD). Based on medieval sources, Rurik was from the modern-day area of Stockholm, a part of the historical Kvenland. Recent DNA studies confirm Rurik to have been Finnic.

In 873 AD, the Kvens and Norse cooperate in battling against the invading Kareliansm according to the Egil's saga (written in c. 1240 AD). The chapter XVII of Egil's saga describes how Thorolf Kveldulfsson (King of Norway's tax chief starting 872 AD) from Namdalen, located in the southernmost tip of the historic Hålogaland, goes to Kvenland again:

"That same winter Thorolf went up on the fell with a hundred men; he passed on at once eastwards to Kvenland and met King Faravid."

Based on medieval documents, the above meeting took place during the winter of 873-874 AD.

In 880 AD (c.), the oldest known written use of the term 'Kven', with nearly that spelling, is made in the 'Account of the Viking Othere', a report of the geopolitical landscape of the North, based on the Norse Viking adventurer Ottar's voyage through the oceanic coasts of Northern Scandinavia and today's extreme Northwestern Russia.

In this account, the Kvens are referred to as "Cwenas" who live in "Cwena land". This was the first genuine and comprehensive account of the North. Thus, it is a principle source in studies relating to the Nordic history.

In 890 AD, Ottar reports the findings to King Alfred of Wessex, who has Ottar's account included to the omissions and additions added to the Universal History of Orosius, republished by King Alfred. The book is partially work of Orosius and partially of King Alfred.

"There was a king called Fornjót who ruled over Finland and Kvenland, the countries stretching to the east of what we call the Gulf of Bothnia, which lies opposite the White Sea. Fornjót had three sons, Hler (whom we also call AEgir), a second called Logi and a third, Kari, the father of Frosti, who was in turn the father of Snaer the Old, the father of Thorri. He had two sons, Nór and Gór and a daughter, Gói."

According to legend, Fornjót was also the father of Karl, Hlessey, and Gmir. Nór founded Norway (Nór's way) and Gor was known as the "Sea King".

Goi was abducted by Hrolf of Bjard, son of the giant Svadi. Nór challenged Hrolf for the return of his sister and the battle ended with Nór getting Hrolf's sister for his wife and Hrolf keeping Goi as his wife.

The Orkneyinga Saga goes on to say:

"Earl Rognvald campaigned with King Harald Fine Hair who gave him charge of North More, South More and Romsdale. Earl Rognvald married Ragnhild, the daughter of Hrolf Nose, and it was their son, Hrolf, who conquered Normandy.

This Hrolf was so big that no horse could carry him, which is why he was given the name Gongu-Hrolf. The earls of Rouen and the kings of England are descended from him."

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The Nromans were Danes that intermingled with the French, what the fuck are you on about?

Fins aren't even Scandinavian, they're eskimoes.

Stop stealing European history, mongol rapebaby.

Didn't finns come from Estonia in the first place? so it's WE!

>The Nromans were Danes

Some were Norwegian. Some were from other parts of Europe, as well.

Bumping for Väinamöinen

First ruler of Norway was Finnish

King Fornjót

Fornjót (Fornjótr in Old Norse) was an ancient giant in Norse mythology and a King of Finland. His children are Ægir (a.k.a. Hlér, ruler of seas), Logi (fire giant) and Kári (god of wind).

The name has often been interpreted as forn-jótr, "ancient giant", and because of this Karl Simrock (1869) identified Formjót with the primeval giant Ymir.

In 1818, historian Müller suggested that Fornjót is one in a well-established group of names or titles of gods under the term 'njótr', referring to "user, owner, possessor".

This would make Fornjót the "original owner" (primus occupans vel utens) of Norway.

Fornjót is mentioned in the 9th century Ynglingatal, skaldic ("courtly") poem listing the kings of the House of Ynglings, the oldest royal dynasty in Scandinadia.

In Ynglingatal, "son of Fornjót" seems to refer to fire, just like in Skáldskaparmál, one of the three distinct books of Snorri Sturluson'd Prose Edda, in c. 1220 AD, in this manner:

"How should the wind be periphrased? Thus: call it son of Fornjót, Brother of the Sea and of Fire, Scathe or Ruin or Hound or Wolf of the Wood or of the Sail or of the Rigging."

assblasted shitskin detected

Benis :DD

Assblasted Anglo-Norman.

Stafford family, reporting for duty.

You just wish you were of noble Norman blood.

Okay shit skin lol, you just wish you were white

Sure, sure whatever.

Believe what you will, it doesn't change anything.

Checked.

t. fellow descendant.

Greetings.

Of what family, may I ask?

I won't say here user. It was one of those "De La" types in the Domesday book. My mom is Med, but at least my dad's side is Norman and fully white.

>mfw we will never pillage the Saxon or subdue the dirty Scotsman again