It's a cut from 1.75-2x to ~1.5x weekday rates. Literally nothing.
There were no penalty rates under WorkChoices. The way it should have been, since both parties have flooded the country with indentured migrants to compensate for scrapping WorkChoices.
Cameron Stewart
I love the audacity of this right after the politician benefits stuff.
I used to work Sundays on that rate, it was probably way more than it needs to be, but I'd be ticking N/A then if I were in the same position now lol
Mason Morgan
I just wont work Sundays, no sweat, the faggot boss can get his ass out of bed and work it himself.
Matthew Butler
Can you refuse to work?
I worked retail for years with sunday rates luckily I have a real job now.
But the only choice I remember was public holidays.
Nathan Turner
>not being neet
Hudson Morris
Ah it's just retail? It won't affect me, but I feel sorry for cunts being jewed like this.
David Robinson
>being neet Its hospitality, retail etc, anything that has penalty rates.
im at woolworths which is alreadyt 150% on sundays.
Isaac Lewis
Working sundays should be illegal, especially if your already working 5-6 days..
Sebastian Bennett
Yeah, I got fucked over so much in hospitality and penalty rates were the only thing that really made it worth working on the weekend.
This dude has the right attitude. If they wanna be greedy and increase profits, the owner can come in and work
Evan Taylor
>oi cunt work this sunday >fuck off cunt working on the sabbath is a sin
James Johnson
/lampposthangings/ when?
Caleb Carter
>it should be illegal for people to work harder so that they can get ahead in life
Tyler Lopez
Get fucked getting 40-50 bucks an hour for that dumb shit work I'd be fuckin ashamed to take it. I still would though.
Bunch of commie retards thinking they deserve a middle class life for dumb shit work.
Austin Powell
Unfortunately this doesn't apply to most young oeople because NO JOBS. Thanks leftie cucks.
Leo Butler
You'll just be replaced by a shitskin. They seem to be half the employees in retail these days.
Landon Morris
Haha, and you know what? You will be replaced by someone who will work Sunday. They will call it restructuring.
"We regret to inform you user that due to company restructuring your position has been removed"
Next week you will walk in and find Pajeet doing your same job. Only he is happy to work Sundays. In fact he is happy to work any fucking hours and any fucking shift the boss gives him.
Aiden Harris
>government forcing businesses to pay more to employees for Sunday, a day that most don't even treat as a day of rest Liberals have done nothing wrong.
Angel Barnes
Why exactly is this a bad thing? All we have to do now is lower minimum wage and we will see job increase and economy boost like never before.
Trickle down DOES work faggots. Get better jobs.
Easton Harris
there shouldn't even be penalty rates at all for casual staff on weekends
Juan Rodriguez
>replaced by a shitskin I haven't met any dual trade shitskins, it doesn't affect me, but I still feel sorry for cunts getting jewed by it.
Landon Collins
Personally i don't give a shit cause mon-fri salaried and a half day saturday O/T every couple of months.
But the biggest joke of the whole thing is to say that it will make businesses hire more staff. Realistically that saving is gone on rent/power/general inflation
Charles Reed
i wish i had a choice
Mason Rivera
Shutup get a better job plebian
Kevin Sanchez
Fucking this. Why should someone who only works on a Sunday get a penalty rate at all? It's not a burden for them, it's their base work time.
Nathaniel Cook
>WORKING WEEKENDS
Evan Murphy
who cares, it's absolutely nothing
Juan Flores
I do, it's called centrelink. I'm a welfare sponge!
Justin Butler
Good. Minimum wage is fucking stupid and forcing employers to pay double minimum wage on Sundays is stupid. They also didn't even get rid of the penalty rates just changed sunday to equal saturday (you don't get double time you get time and a half).
Stop bitching because you have a shit job.
Brody Walker
I don't. 30-50 hour is for quite highly skilled, experienced workers not for stacking shelves at Coles.
They need a kick in the cunt.
Robert Gonzalez
>welfare sponge >sticking up for the workers >pro-union >pro minimum wage >anti-free market
Easton Sullivan
I have a disability.
Isaiah Garcia
and casuals usually already have a higher base rate to make up for it, wanting double time for your 20hr week at a already higher rate is just greedy
Ryan Rodriguez
no, you're a burden on the economy, you fat fuck
Luis Thomas
>tfw public service
How does it feel that I get to sit on my ass, shitpost and get paid more than you, retailfags? Oh and when I do get work it's beyond easy and the illiterate gooks/pajeets think I'm a genius because I am so good at it.
OH!! And I don't even have a degree.
Have fun doing twice the amount of work and getting half the amount of money.
Cooper Campbell
Good. Maybe people will start opening their stores on sunday and close them later, too.
Lucas Brown
I can't help it if I Austim user.
Angel Green
>tfw QLD tradie
Ayden Butler
Then the fact you are being kept alive is part of the problem. Natural selection is key to our survival and people who can't put bread on their own tables, one way or another, without the use of a state stealing from it's citizens deserve to be removed, immediately, from this world.
Justin Stewart
you're an idiot
Lucas Campbell
t. shekelstein
Isaiah Gutierrez
I hope it actually creates the opportunity for businesses to open/creates some additional jobs.
If, however, I'm paying the same amount for beer after this I'll know it's bullshit and I'll support it getting repealed.
Nathaniel Hall
>.5% cut on sundays, where you were getting 2X the amount of money for working casual hours, is a jewish trick
Joshua King
no business will drop prices if not forced to
Michael Hughes
The only people who work on Sunday's are poo in the loo's, stop being such a massive faggot user.
Robert Harris
What is that? I don't know Australian
Evan Sanchez
Just a bunch of entitled fucking vultures.
Adam Sanchez
>I don't know Australian Cleetus that greets you at walmart on sundays is no longer going to be paid twice his normal hourly rate for working on Sunday.
Isaiah Walker
how is it fair that someone working on a weekend should earn 1.75 to 2x over a weekday worker would earn at the same job?
Colton Sullivan
>lowers the cost of business >increasing business activity (i.e. more jobs) >'jobs and growth' >yes some people will have a reduced pay check
If losing that much money is such a large problem for you then secure some higher paid work. If you can't do that you are a part of the problem
James Collins
Kek, stop working in the hospitality industry... cuck.
Jace Hernandez
its not cunts that work 20hrs a week think they "deserve" a weekend aswell
Carter Gutierrez
>working weekends >Australian
Pick one
Joseph Ross
Many Australians don't have choice considering your banana-tier economy though.
Liam Bailey
Get a better job. Jesus i worked 6 days a week as an apprentice earning less than 10 an hour.
I did my.time and earn 40+ an hour as a plumber. Fucking wimps wouldn't know hard work or working towards better wages if it hit them in the face
Brayden Morgan
Sunday trading should be banned entirely
Levi Nguyen
The only people who work in the industries that are affected by this are for the most part uni students, single mothers and low skilled workers (left wing voters). You'll find no sympathy from me on this.
Samuel Roberts
Not having Sunday breakfast with mates Not enjoying summer sunday sessions at your local.
Not shopping for groceries on sunday.
Go back to your neet life and dark room
Kayden Harris
THIS
half day Saturdays for supermarkets, Saturday night for restaurants and completely closed on sunday for everything.
Levi Reyes
Just get off the government Tit and get a better job. If you cant hack it in the real world there is always a bridge to jump off of.
Nicholas Garcia
That would be very retarded in Sydney. Having everyone rushing to do everything on Saturday morning.
Adam Davis
Who the fuck works on a sunday?
Jayden Carter
So if you work Monday to Friday you'll spend your Saturdays in a overcrowded supermarket because everyone shop in the same time. Brilliant.
Jace Garcia
>forgetting your meme arrows Learn to greentext newfag.
Ryder Torres
This is why women shouldn't be in the workforce. I'll let you put that one together.
Ryan Morales
Good luck trying to get that to happen again. No seriously, you'd need all the luck in the world to pull it off.
Dylan Sullivan
>This is why women shouldn't be in the workforce. I'll let you put that one together.
Ok grandpa.
Lincoln Wright
you can on public holidays and sundays, with prior notice of course
Aaron Adams
>jesus you are right. Not green texting like an idiot
Kayden Jackson
Jew detected
Aaron Anderson
We are not all white trash bogan tradies
Some of us like to get pussy
Cameron Gray
labourites detected
Ryder Hill
Tradies get the ladies.
Ethan Sanders
We need to ban Sunday trading, as someone earlier in the thread said. But we also need to severely limit trading on other days. 9pm to 5pm on all weekdays, no later or earlier, and 10pm to 1pm on Saturdays. Exceptions can apply to pharmacies and trade stores.
We need to get away from this degenerate consumerist mindset.
>taking all of the wages, all of the housing, all of the government programs, and forcing them to be distributed across twice the population user, grab a rifle and become a warlord, there's no place for that 18th century democracy
Noah Williams
WTF is a penalty rate? Sounds like a fine which is a bad thing.
Charles Gutierrez
good. we need to deregulate the markets. socialist policies and market regs are costing this country, and the countrymen a metric shitload of money.
Isaiah Sanders
>You watch, one day we will all be working seven days a week for no pay.
No, one day you'll be working zero days per week once the robots take yer jerbs.
Charles Howard
That's what happens when you have "free trade." You need to be competitive with all other nations in terms of price and labor output. China works Sundays. So long as you want free trade, in order to be competitive, you need to work Sundays, and for a rate that competes with the Chinese.
Don't like it? End free trade.
John Fisher
It'll make sure businesses can hire more staff!
>implying the bigger places (Big W, Coles, JB HI FI etc) aren't understaffed on purpose because shit budgets
>skeleton staff is a thing
>mmmm baby did you just say your probation is up?
I've also heard some real bullshit reasons for firing people in my time
Joshua Jenkins
We need to re-regulate everything. (((They))) cannot be allowed to continue to take advantage of the working Australian family.
Wyatt Smith
It's literally like $30 bucks a week. Boo hoo, poor hospitality hipsters won't be able to afford their craft beers or buy beard oil. Cry me a fucking river.
Nicholas Sanders
literally the reason why the chinese are able to take over
if australia wants to exist in 10 years, we need to cut the crap, get real, and stop these policies that disenfranchise the native population from upward economic mobility
James Robinson
by native population i mean australians, not talking about indigenous affairs, though they would massively benefit as well
Charles Bailey
But why would we repeal regulations in this order? This is like cutting taxes for the highest bracket first until you get to the lowest bracket. We need to either abolish all regulations simultaneously (which would be great, but would never happen) or abolish them smoothly. Abolish them in a way that helps lower classes first.
Joshua Diaz
We should get rid of Saturday rates and keep Sunday as a day of rest forever.
Bentley Fisher
I don't care, you need to work harder. Why should you get more pay just because its Sunday and because the government says so.
Jacob Cox
> Racism is killing the Australian economy
Anthony Ross
>bolish them smoothly that's probably what this "penalty rate" cut is all about. it's the first step, praise kek.
Jaxson Torres
and how would you convince the majority of the population that you're going to take their gibs on the condition that they pay less tax?
Asher Smith
cunts
David Hernandez
reminder shorten made the changes that gave the fair work commission power to do this
Do you know that Australia was the first nation on earth to implement labour laws including a minimum wage and mandatory arbitration?
All white Australians deserve a decent standard of living. Don't use the Chinese as an excuse to destroy our labour protections. Use them as an excuse to keep them.
Lucas King
show them the cold facts that, short term, (very veyr short term, talking about 10 years max) these policies feel good, like a good old pissup, but the hangover is brutal
Tyler Bailey
maybe use this as just another reason to get a real job that doesn't require weekend work?
Dylan Robinson
Fuck that shops are crowded enough as it is. And I'm a single bloke shopping for one. Can't imagine what it's like shopping for more than that.
Camden Clark
So eventually nobody works in these industries?
Caleb Martin
and this is going to work when the entire country is more or less used to political decision making on a 4 year scale at best?
if we can't even create a policy for national infrastructure in 2013 and have it not be gutted by 2017 (NBN), how can we convince the masses that taking their gibs is a good idea on the long term?