So, is POTUS absolutely sure he heard that the unemployment rate is 42%? That's essentially twice the unemployment of the Weimar Republic's crisis. (citation: Unemployment and Real Wages in Weimar Germany, University of Oxford 2004)
4 in 10 people without a job would be "we've just been crushed in a war" levels of civilian displacement.
That many people without an income would cause total mayhem, a recession the likes of which is literally not seen on this world. The highest unemployment rate is South Africa with 25% of workers unemployed.
The only person who could believe that figure from the president is someone who either a.) Does not know how percentages work, b.) would wish to believe we're in the middle of an apocalypse even if we're not, or c.) would believe it was sunny on a rainy day if an authority figure told them.
42% of what the entire population of America? Because that would be believable. Kids and the old all factor in to that. Also illegals that do have under the table work would count for unemployed as well.
Austin Russell
You don't understand what "unemployment rate" means. Go get your highschool diploma, unemployment refers to members of the workforce that have lost their job and do not have a new one.
Josiah Hill
nice one fellow trumptard
this is the correct answer, kikey sanders also addressed this in his campaigning, labor force participation has declined under Obama
John Johnson
Under obama all libs crowed about was the unemployment rate
We need to look at the Workforce Participation rate (# of all adults in workforce) which is absolutely fucking astronomical and sickening
Owen Robinson
its accounting for people not receiving benefits anymore and people with degrees who work minimum wage jobs
Brandon Bell
if unemployment is so low how come i cant find a fucking job checkmate
Nicholas Evans
youre the reason i dont come here anymore, get out shlomo
Isaac Ramirez
typical tricks
Adam Thompson
>If unemployment is so low how come i cant find a fucking job Because you're obviously not stable enough nor capable for the job.
Elijah Wright
Because you have no education and you're unlikeable, check
Adam Watson
K, I have an even easier example to give of this bullshit, then.
POTUS is on the record as saying we have the highest rate of murder in 45 years.
See image.
Ryan Stewart
That's a red herring, as the president didn't say Workforce Participation Rate, he said Unemployment Rate.
Stay on topic.
Nicholas Scott
that's true, nobody likes me why can't i just get a job picking berries or some shit. ill work for 4 dollars an hour in 90 degree weather i dont care
Jordan Walker
Labor force participation is currently 62.9% out of a civilian labor force size of 159.7 million for a total of 100.4 million people working. Obama started his term with 66.2% participation out of 154.1 million for a total of 102 million people working. In total, that's a loss of 7.7 million jobs during the Obama years.
Now, calculating real unemployment is difficult. If we're counting unemployment as per who's not working, the rate is the inverse of the current participation rate, which is 37.1%. If you count people who are underemployed, ie people working in part time jobs, the number rises drastically. If you're counting people who are getting paid benefits from the government for being recently unemployed, you're looking at less than 5%.
The interesting statistic to me is that only 29% of the population in the country actually works.
Jaxon Morales
i have a career that i will not give details on
under obama rule, i was only able to generate 2 years of work in 8 years of time
just because starbucks still has employees doesnt mean that entire industries havent disentigrated. i used to make 130k annually under bush and clinton and ive made less than 100k in the past 8 years
just because your starbucks was unaffected doesnt mean the people who create teh world you live in and its advancements have enjoyed such prosperity
the real genocide is against the genius- who just happens to also be white.
Joseph Jenkins
what about it
Carson Hall
You could do this if you were Mexican.
Charles Hughes
for the recond, me and people like me are not considered in the math that determines the unemployment rate that CNN will tell you is accurate
Adrian Long
Don't be dense.
Grayson Parker
He did say Unemployment Rate, the *REAL* unemployment rate, not the bullshit where you factor 40% of the population out of the statistic.
Roughly half of Americans got paid last week, and that's being generous with counting people with high level degrees working McJobs.
The actual unemployed/underemployed rate is damn near 70%.
James James
Wait a second. Mexicans can get jobs that easy? Call me Pablo now guys.
Carson Miller
Trump, like all conservaniggers, is retarded.
Oliver Rodriguez
what in god's name do you want
David Ross
Citation needed that CNN would somehow specifically omit "people like you" in its math.
BTW, I don't get my statistics from CNN. I don't even get my journalism from CNN.
Brody Parker
Yea, see you never denied my point. I know that "unemployment rate" factors out those of unworkable age. But now we are just debating semantics and there is truth in saying that 42% of people are not employed. Also you have no source backing up what was supposedly said in the first place to be fact.
Anthony Anderson
What do you mean what was said in the first place? Trump said the 42% figure on camera, I cited the University of Oxford for the Weimar comparison... what are we pulling hairs on exactly?
Brandon Davis
It was absolutely a mistake to call it the UNEMPLOYMENT rate.
He should have instead have called it the NOT-EMPLOYED rate.
Leftist faggots screech with laughter globally - how could he believe that the UNEMPLOYMENT rate is 42%?
If he had instead said the NOT-EMPLOYED RATE is 42%, they would have to admit that he's right.
Brandon Davis
>Citation needed that CNN would somehow specifically omit "people like you" in its math
You can only be jobless for so long before they reclassify you as non-participating vs unemployed in the statistics. You're free to look it up on the BLS site. To be fair they do clearly note that unemployed means recently unemployed and actively seeking work, but no one seems to really mention it when reporting on the number.
That's why the labor force participation number is better. It factors out the youth, and disabled, and decrepitly old, giving a much cleaner number on the number of people who could be working but aren't.
Jace Perry
It's still a red herring. The words he said have definitions. This makes him a serial liar. You can't just say "this is what he meant" without any proof you are inside his head.
Wyatt Taylor
That's a good argument for labor force participation as a better standard.
But my discussion here isn't about labor participation, it's about how easily the president can pull a number out of his ass.
Ryder Rogers
Yea there we go. An error in semantics. Where if the proper words are used there is truth. Now then could we stop bickering about the meanings of words and concentrate on making America great again? You people are serious fags.
Carson Sanchez
>accusing people of assuming others intentions >doing the same
kek
Aiden Cox
No, it makes the government a serial liar by misrepresenting a segment of people who are getting paid benefits as the entire segment of unemployed peoples in America, where it clearly isn't.
Cameron Martinez
No it simply makes you a delusional reactionary blowing shit out of proportion. I think you should relax and smoke a weed there pal. Don't worry USA only cares about having more excuses to interrogate potential illegals. They don't care about you smoking a weed as long as you're not Mexican.
Ryder Moore
Because you can't just say "Make X Amazing" without going into specifics, seeing what needs to be fixed, and even if it needs fixing.
This is supposed to be politics, not a highschool social studies brainstorm circle.
Christian Price
>Because you can't just say "Make X Amazing" without going into specifics Exactly kid. It's for your own good. Now sit down and shut up.
I'm assuming he got the numbers from government statistics, like USA Today did. Or was that fake news?
Logan Ortiz
huh 42 %, wellwhadayaknow
Grayson Cooper
I don't simply accept shit like that. I protested Obama's drone usage, and after the NSA leak, his mass surveillance. I don't sit down and shut up, because in a republic, that's not how its supposed to work.
Don't you have a shitty prime minister to not sit down and shut up about? Seriously. Don't take your own advice.
Blake Nelson
Lots of welfare exists now that didn't exist then Thats why people arent going crazy
Liam Collins
>scrutinizing political rhetoric this hard
ISHGIGHAYDIGHA
Ian Baker
The keyphrase here is "It's for your own good" And it is, when it involves Trump. But if you bring Trudeau into this, it's obviously not for my own good. So you don't really have a point there at all. Nice try though. Apples and Oranges.
Lincoln Phillips
7D chess, now they're going to "clarify" that' that number is the labor participation rate and people will realize that unemployment figures are essentially meaningless (even more when Obongo changed the rules on how they're calculated)
Matthew Campbell
A statistic is not rhetoric. The rhetorical option would actually be a lot easier to gain liberals with. If the POTUS simply said "Unemployment is really bad.", it wouldn't be so easy to disprove him on the spot and would probably ring louder to his emotional-based audience anyhow.
John Gomez
To rile people up. Only problem is Trump supporters are on cloud 9 right now and won't be down for 8 years.
And to continue, sorry, you can't use a slogan as a talking point either. It's like saying Burger King is better than McDonald's because you have "Have it Your Way" there.
Leo Miller
>pull a number out of his ass
if u havent collected unemployment or contributed to unemployment within the last 6 months- you are NOT UNEMPLOYED
there are millions of people who simply arent a member of the workforce because of the wording of its requisites.
Jacob Rivera
It's completely irrelevant dude. Go back to sleep, it's officially not happening.
Joshua Gutierrez
but he's a liar right?
Jose Robinson
I'm saying he's a shitty liar. He could be way better at lying (approaching Clinton level) if he just refused to say numbers.
Connor Wright
that's a real neat chart but not as nice as mine
Thomas Morgan
>ITT we compare economies that are 100 years apart.
Levi Green
FPBP
Angel Brown
All of the rate stats are flawed because they misreport population (Census bureau) in order to keep the literal value of human life lower
Leo Edwards
Fucking leftist cocksuckers and your weasel words, doublespeak. You should be chained to a rack and flayed.