Drugs

Should all drugs be legalized?

To be honest I think if I am paying for it I should be able to go to a doctor and tell them what I want and get it. They should be able to discuss it with me, or blacklist me in extreme situations/at my behest, but cutting out the doctor and forcing me to go street level to satisfy my degeneracy just puts me at risk.

I dunno.

On one hand I like people having the freedom to put whatever they want into their bodies... on the other hand drugs can be dangerous.

People overdose or mix drugs together that shouldn't be mixed. People take TOO many drugs and end up fucked up like Brian Wilson.

Plus if a person becomes addicted to drugs it really changes his or her behavior.

Yes. I want to try meth because I know I won't get addicted to it but I'm not going through shady fuckers to get it. And if I fuck up and die then it would be my fault.

yes. let natural selection take its course. why should anybody be concerned if what someone does doesnt hurt anybody other than themselves?

Yes, but injuries resulting from voluntary drug use should not be covered by any form of socialized medicine.

No.

Go to a faggot club. Meth dealers errywhere

Yes. Why not?

I don't want to associate with pozzed fags though.

hell yeah lets do some meth

i should be able to use a gun to defend myself shooting up heroin in the woman's bathroom

Yes.

Most drug addictions are due to psychological problems.

Alcohol's addictive, yet few alcohol drinkers are alcoholics.

It's funny, when you ask why someone's an alcoholic, you'll hear some excuse about some trauma from their past.

Yet you don't hear that shit when you ask why someone's a cokehead or a junkie.

The money should be taken by the state and put into healthcare and mental health.

If you are a heavy drug user, you should be flagged for mental health treatment.

Prohibition simply doesn't work.

yes please

>on the other hand drugs can be dangerous.

And so are dozens of other things that are not illegal.

I'd probably try Heroin if I didn't have to get it from shady people.

Agreed.

Did illegalizing them have any significant effects other than to send millions of people to jail and allow the narcotrafficantes to make a lot of money off that? If not, then prohibition should be repealed.

there are drugs in prison bro, and compared to being a homeless addict it's pretty much free food and housing with the occasional butt-rape on your dollar
either:
>legalize completely but only after doing away with the welfare state
>go full Duterte

Don't do drugs because they'll hurt you.
>alcohol
>nicotine
>caffeine
>big macs
>refined sugar
>extreme sports
>guns
>knives
>forks
>coffee tables with right angles

Fuck the fuck off

>It's funny, when you ask why someone's an alcoholic, you'll hear some excuse about some trauma from their past.

Isn't it genetic, brah?

I thought most alcoholics have family members who were alcoholics too.

just do a subutex, feels very similar to heroin and theres 0% chance of it being cut with shit.

Whether or not people should do drugs is not what is being discussed here.

Should drugs be legal?

Yes

People should be able to put whatever the fuck they want in their bodies.

They should have disclaimer and instructions to warn people of the hazards and prevent them from overdosing.

It doesn't matter that people could commit suicide with them since there are already legal substances which could be used for committing suicide. And it doesn't matter that people could become addicted because cigarettes and alcohol are legal and they can cause addiction as well.

based leaf

They should all be legalized. Even the weird research chemicals and the unknown tryptamines.

I want to see a world where I can purchase A-PVP and AL-LAD next to the bread section of supermarket. I want to order a coffee in loal cafeteria and a sidedish of refreshing coke and little bit of DOP-blotters

Strange chemicals almost unknown to man and all put in weird mixture bags you can smoke like crack and purchase them from local gas stations. The fact that you do not even know what strange chemicals you are smoking and years pass as you are fucked up on so many different chemicals that most doctors are not even aware of existing

Yassss!
Seriously drug war's a war on civil liberties. Addicts should be marginalized, ostracized and shamed, similar to alcoholics. It's the cheapest way out for everyone.

Both my parents drank quite a lot.

I have maybe 2 units a month on average.

No, most should be kept illegal and crimes concerning distribution, crime rings operating such ventures - liquidated and made example out of

If government legalizes it, it will probably regulate it heavily and use it as another tool to dumb down the masses and make them susceptible to anything, there are no advantages to humans of legalizing drugs and it should stay so

My body my choice!

>Addicts should be marginalized, ostracized and shamed, similar to alcoholics
Except none of such is happening, even more so it's the other way around

And above all - people are generally stupid, especially when it comes to drugs

if they are legalized you'll have teens taking handful of drugs with opposite effects, overloading their organs i.e. alcohol and XTC

Government or NGOs could potentially launch education campaigns, but it wouldn't achieve anything as with any campaign, rather work as an encouragment

Right. Right now corrupt politicians are using the tax system to take your money and piss it away, and then tell you soon...we will finally stop the flow of drugs, just a few more freedoms must be sacrificed, a few more hundreds of billions spent, and all the drugs will go away. Never going to happen, so let's be pragmatic and take the cheap way out...that won't happen because over a trillion dollars is up for grabs between the blackmarket and enforcement. Who do you think is really, ultimately paying?

Drugs that are popular with the people should be trial tested in labs for medicinal purposes, and trial tested for safe recreational use in the private market, much like beer, liquor and cigarettes. The same way there are huge restrictions and legalities with someone making their own beer or moonshine without the permits should be the case with marijuana. I think if you just handled it like liquor, beer and cigs then it would be fine. At the very least try to find an industrial and medicinal purpose. It is a very popular drug and the users already don't care about legality when it comes to buying and smoking, might as well make it an American enterprise instead of a cholo blood money circuit.

I say with lsd and other hallucinogens, give them up to the medical field and let them have a medicinal purpose as to lift the taboo and get more people informed on their benefits. LSD wouldn't be nearly as popular if it was a medicinal drug used for therapy.

MDMA is on its way to getting the green light to treating PTSD by 2020, hopefully it happens. Literally no reason for vets to suffer when MDMA is a proven and safe way, when used under medical supervision, to treat many PTSD victims.

I would go as far to say if we can somehow create a sort of vaccine of some sort to null the effects of cocaine (I'm no scientist but this seems impossible, cocaine is a simple drug if I'm not mistaken) so that crack and coke era can come to an end...other than finding some miracle way to make the drug not work, those drugs are going to remain on underground circuits forever.

The next best thing would be hardcore and mandatory education involving the horrors of dangerous drugs starting at young ages and taught repeatedly all the way through school. A complete replacement of existing drug education programs, because they suck.

The problem is that we are too hard on drugs that are harmless, or at the very least have medicinal value to certain diseases and disorders.

The real failure with drugs is the lack of education. Kids just simply aren't taught nearly enough about the dangers of certain hard street drug use and also the economics behind them, and the bloodshed that it causes. Kids need to be aware of it as they grow older.

"drugs" were freely available for thousands of years and yet civilization still happened. The US and UN got the Streisand effect going on concerning drugs when that dipshit Nixon created the DEA to get revenge on "niggers and hippies".

Yes. And made expensive as fuck. You won't solve the problem with the poor consuming low cost homemade drugs but at least you'll tax the shit out of the rich douchebags who use them, while the middle class people will remain unafected.

guess the number of jelly beans to win degeneracy

>MDMA is on its way to getting the green light to treating PTSD by 2020
It was used therapeutically in couples therapy in the eighties but it started being diverted and showing up in nightclubs and people were having a good time and we won't be having any of that shit thank you very much.
MDMA is probably a cure and is definitely a treatment for PTSD.

Antibiotics should still require a doctors notice no matter what. We seriously are at risk of a superbug killing us all because places like India eat them like candy.

For other drugs I'm ok with people getting what they want even if they start killing themselves. If you protect people too much they become incapable of making good decisions for themselves and they become a massive drain on everything and then start killing themselves anyway because you can only intervene so much.

being happy all the time is objectively not a great thing

but like I said it is on its way, per the scientists who make mdma, to being green lit to treat vets.

>mfw living in a country that doesn't prosecute you when carrying less than 5 xtc pills

>MDMA is on its way to getting the green light to treating PTSD by 2020, hopefully it happens. Literally no reason for vets to suffer when MDMA is a proven and safe way, when used under medical supervision, to treat many PTSD victims.

Wait. How can it " treat" PTSD? Nothing more than turning the serotonin faucet open, which also replenishes quite slow, not to mention that it would probably take constant use due to the levels depleting and a feeling similar to depression kicking in during withdrawal/when it wears off

as I see it, they will just sit on the MDMA "needle"

Yes, but on a whole different margin, no globalisation and destructive drugs like crack cocaine, krokodil, and others like MDMA weren't synthesised, that's no real argument, civilisation has endured far worse things than drugs, but drug use surely didn't help civilisation - just look at chinks that got jewed out to oblivion due to Opium

D.A.R.E taught an entire generation Marijuana was just as dangerous as Heroin, but what that generation heard was Heroin is no more dangerous than marijuana. Not smart.
Generation X was forced off of marijuana, because that was the generation piss tests went mainstream on, they then sought out alternatives kicking off the opiate pankiller epidemic, in 2012 the FDA reworked the laws on prescribing opiates making it harder to get and more effectively, the DEA started arresting doctors. This opened up a huge opportunity for heroin dealers (CIA, Mexican cartels) and that's why the drug war is un-winnable and we just need to find a cheap way out.

Nice.

All drugs should be banned

Survival of the fittest

No.

Yes because weed, psychs etc are harmless if used properly and if some faggot wants to OD on cocaine, that's just Darwinism at work. Inb4 meme responses

Not to mention sticking it to (((big pharma)))

>>either:
>legalize completely but only after doing away with the welfare state
>go full Duterte
This. Let's get some closure on the drug war and if the government wants to win it then it needs to put in the effort. Don't care either way at this point.

>Yes because weed, psychs etc are harmless if used properly

Sure, wonder why you forgot that they also "cure" diseases

Big pharma will just profit from legalizing more drugs, where's the sticking?

Non sequitor

>Big pharma will just profit from legalizing more drugs, where's the sticking?

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yes, I'd pay mad bucks to see all the degenerates junkies overdose.