I hate to admit it, but he has a really good point here

I hate to admit it, but he has a really good point here.

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Alright then, enlighten me. Let's say that, through some way, everyone gets those things. Like tomorrow, you suddenly wake up and college is free, as are all living expenses, with free healthcare to boot.

What happens then?

>Free everything
>Communism
>Not radical
KYS faggot

Gosh, my synapses are really firing today

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i mean probably something bad, but most people for the quick minute would be pretty happy, however they would be ignorant of the impending consequences and the immediate ones as well.

You just KNOW Kyle "Kike Killer" Kulinski is RP'd on the JQ.

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Look at Tom Perez squirm!

I'm not paying for niggers to have babies
I'm not paying for retards to have swahili class
I'm not paying for illegals to vote
I'm not paying for other people's workers

You live a civilized life.

>clean elections
as opposed to killary rigging it so bernie (the real 'people's candidate') stood no chance?

Not an argument.

I don't think anyone disagrees that all of that stuff would be great for humanity. The problem is paying for it and how much of a value-add will it be. Will it truly enrich humanity in a measurable way, or will we all just feel nice about it?

what fucking universal healthcare? obamacare fucked the middle class.

what's the point of universal college when outside of the top schools, most of the student body is brain dead and barely literate.

>leftist shit complaining about clean elections
lmao

>living wage
maybe should have gone into a blue collar job instead of getting a worthless degree and then complaining that no one wants a worker with no skills and no experience.

The root of the problem is: if your society is homogeneous and finds a "higher purpose" into the preservation and the growth of its culture and people, citizens will be glad to finance an humongous welfare state and give a chance to live a decent life to every single fellow countryman. The more heterogeneous a society is, the more butthurt people will be when it comes to pay taxes.

>wah give me free shit
>>You know that everyone else pays for it right?
>b-but that doesn't matter! its free to me!

> if you think the government shouldn't steal from productive people to give shitty services to unproductive people the radical is you

FTFY.

I agree on the "Clean Elections" front though. I'm a Trump supporter.

Aside from clean elections (which these people don't really want), where does the money for all that shit come from?

>Provide for me without me working for it
>Play for me, take care of me
>Own me.

Sounds like your standard left cuck wanting to be bent over and fucked by the federal government.

A living wage is 3.00 you just live 30 people in one house, ride the bus and everyone watches each other kids.

Debating the definition of "living" should be the real debate not a dollar amount.

>I WANT THESE THINGS!!!

The things he listed are more "extreme" than "radical" but we all know that words mean whatever a Leftist says they mean these days.

then you realise that the problem with your life isn't actually your material standard of living since you'r somehow sad with more resources than 99.99% of men to have ever lived but instead it's because you're a sad fuck liberal who hates himself and projects it onto his society and culture rather than taking responsibility

actually i mean i would ask why PhD's aren't a universal right and ask why rent isn't free

Surprise surprise, you'll get a bunch of ignorant Americans arguing while the ethno nationalist europeans realize your point.

>outside the top schools

all of those things can be solved by eliminating the federal reserve and fixing the monetary system. It's the sole reason for every liberal problem and yet they are too stupid to understand this. our system is broken, it is parasitic. it's why all these things are so expensive

shit I'd love to go to a college about universes

Go away, cucked shill.

Who provides this magical free money? Well, I guess the government do it for you? So is tax still a thing? Does your living wage get taxed? Do you still need to work? If inflation goes up does the living wage need to be increased?

If employment goes down because the living wage allows you to live without working, then who is going to build houses, cars, grow food? Are people going to volunteer to do those things for free? Why should they do the work, if others don't want to?

There are a lot of questions and I'm not intelligent enough to know what happens in this magical fairytale.

Clean elections? I take it that this @KyleKulinski is implying Trump won due to Russian interferance? With no evidence? What about Clinton who 100% rigged the primaries and is very obviously involved in pay to play?

It is too much to ask for because how can we afford that for 300 million people and counting

We're 20 trillion in debt for fuck's sake

We have universal healthcare and faggots are just pumping our money by sticking billiard balls in their asses and getting surgery paid with our tax money, sniffing poppers and getting cancer treatment paid with our tax money, having bareback orgies and getting AIDS treatment paid with our tax money, etc. Universal healthcare is code name for "queers leech from your wallet".

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>>Universal healthcare
i.e. forcing people to pay for other people's healthcare vs. the auto insurance industry, where everyone pays for his own insurance and companies compete across state lines, but muh feels put us in the current mess

>>universal college
The public education system can't even get K-12 right yet, and you're talking about another 4 years??

>>clean elections
Jill Stein's recount gave Trump a larger margin

>>living wage
Because the best way to run a company is to starve your employees to death

That's not what radical means though. Radical means you want to change something. You can't be a radical if you want to keep things the same. This tweet is really, really retarded.

But mr. spic, I already pay 1/5th of everything I earn to the government while receiving literally nothing in return.

>(((clean elections)))

blacks are going to be retarded wherever they go because muh affirmative action.

but if you have seen the "capabilities" of the student body at middle of the road schools you'd realize that most of them don't belong in college. this isn't even major dependent, engineering has plenty of retards, too.

>"If you believe in all the things that made USA the greatest country in the world then you are a radical!"
Guess I'm a radical then.

yes, as opposed to that. I mean look at what he was saying he was obviously a bernout. Not with her.

No he doesn't you commie filth.
He is asking for my money, my property and my rights surrendered. It's MINE you dense fuck, not some shitskins.
Fucking hell this really made me think.

So let's say there's universal college, and there's universal healthcare.

Who's paying for it? Workers that'll be taxed up the arse and sideways? They'll be dodging taxes left right and centre, and almost immediately the gouvernment won't have enough money to provide the charade that is free service and within 5 years the prices will have skyrocketed, there will be year-long waiting times for healthcare service and waiting times + lottery for education.

Life will become so shit, people will look at Islamic society and think it's heaven by comparison.

complain you're not getting enough free stuff.

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FREE SHIT!!! IT'S NOT A BOTTOMLESS BLACK HOLE, I SWEAR!

>universal healthcare
AKA everyone gets shitty healthcare because providers now have zero incentive to improve quality
>universal college
Same thing, and the market value of having a degree drops to zero. A 4 year degree becomes the new highschool diploma.
>clean elections
Our election process is fine
>a living wage
"I have no idea how the money supply works and I think that the value of the dollar will stay the same if everyone gets a pay raise"

You get replaced by immigrants because you woke up in germany.

LESBIAN. SOFTBALL. COACH.

>universal healthcare
Your health is your business as my health is my business. I put forward a very strong effort to keep myself in shape. Of course there are always exceptions as people fall on hard luck, but in the most obese nation on Earth, I shouldn't have to subsidize the bad decisions and lifestyles of other people.
>universal college
Education is a privilege, not a right. The reason college became so expensive in the last two decades is because we started subsidizing it. When we start using someone elses money, price is no object. The expansion of college education has come at the expense of trades and working class professions which are now in high demand.
>clean elections
Are they not clean now? It was noted on election night how fast and orderly the results came in. It was remarkable clean and efficient.
>living wage
The market value of a job and compensation is determined by many factors including education-training-experience and the simple supply and demand for workers with the required skills. Some jobs simply aren't worth very much. While we do interfere with the natural market forces on occasion, it's not something done lightly. A shift from the 'minimum' wage to a 'living' wage would require an entirely new economic model which no one is talking about.

no

Based Otto

You suddenly wake up to the fact that you're taxed highly, but that's okay because your money is going to some degenerate taking Gender studies that was paid for by the government,

Justice Democrats couldn't even get a progressive to run the DNC. Nobody wants your socialist crap, KEKinski.

You'd be left with:

>lower income
>lower wealth
>higher unemployment
>lower birthrates
>more people studying gender theory in college because others will pay for it
>more people being retards in regards to their own health because others will pay for it
>more brown people flooding in trying to take advantage of those things, especially because birth-right citizenship is still a thing in the US

Where do u guys stand on Emergency rooms? I feel like ER should be free maybe or greatly reduced. I've heard the problem with healthcare is most of the money goes towards drugs and expensive cancer treatments and shit like that.

Work and pay your way through school. Now that's radical.

That's a shitty tweet, but he's right about most stuff

Democrats should change their mascot from a donkey to a scarecrow

>entirely new economoci model no one is talking about

Because only a nationalistic government could deliver it. There would have to be total state control of industry and the economy so that the profits from automated industries could be used to provide a living wage. Private business will inevitably automate jobs and refuse to pay extortionate taxation. The end resutl may be something like a tecnocracy where power is shared by top level computing industries and national governments.

Free ESSENTIALS (medical care, education) could be paid for by raising taxes. Namely various sales taxes like on cars, unhealthy foods, rich people foods (creme brule or caviar), basically anything rich people buy...

>germany has free college, healthcare and living expenses

What Germany are you living in?

It'd be a better system than we currently have.

Our taxes already pay for maintaining roads why not just raise the taxes more for free medical care?

Indeed. I'm imagining a coordinated market economy as practiced in Japan and Germany, a form of state capitalism. Of course this is still capitalism which is why Bernie Sanders wanted nothing to do with it.

I don't even pay for my own health insurance why should I pay for someone else's?

I didn't go to college so why should I pay for someone else to?

Illegals voting in our elections isn't "clean".

Don't have children while working at burger king you dumb nog and your wage would be affordable.

Can a socialist explain to me how throwing other people's money at things fixes any problems? Almost all of those things OP listed were made worse, for the majority of the population in the US, by socialist policies.

part time jobs don't pay enough to afford tuition on top of living expenses. As it is a part time job won't even pay living expenses. You have to work full time at those shitty wages and then... where's the time for school?

Because what's good for society is more important than what's good for the individual.

Frankly, I cannot imagine a future where most manufacturing jobs are automated /without/ a highly powerful central government. But then again, enlightened despotism is the best form of government anyways. I, for one, welcome our immortal AI president overlord.

And that's why communism fails every time.

Everyone in the world should live in a mansion, not have to work and have everything taken care of. We'll cure disease as well and all live to 1000. Anyone who doesn't immediately agree with me is Hitler and should be literally shot.

This guy is a fucking idiot. He sounds about as astute as I did when I was 15.

What constitutes a clean election?
Because the left rigged the election in their favour and still lost.
Trump did not.
Universal college just devalues degrees, only idiots think universal university / college etc is a good thing. Try finding a job as say, a photographer with 5 million photographers leaving a year etc.
A living wage with devalue the currency causing inflation, regulate food costs to become cheap and allow cheap housing then you do not NEED a living wage. Improve the value of currency rather than inflate the amount in circulation.
Universal healthcare fails and is a HUGE drain on the economy, I should know, I live in a country with a failing socialist healthcare program. It works well for a few years then it fucking dies. and takes the economy with it.

They just go overboard with that concept. They go "full retard" on it. Gotta mix and match concepts of capitalism with SELECT aspects of socialism etc

You go after fraud and abuse and put able bodies to work on various civil projects if they want to try to cheat the system or want to contribute.

You eliminate farming subsidies that exist only to be exploited and start growing what we need rather than being so wasteful while using technology instead of slave labor.

You legalize drugs and put money into education and treatment centers where they can safely use, receive treatment and hopefully come out of it as historically there has always been a small segment of the population that are addicts no matter the time or enforcement.

You tax and control recreational substances and give people a way out. It would end the drug trade as well as fight terrorism.

You audit the FED and put currency back in control of the government.

You build a 500 billion dollar space elevator and use it to put 700 billion in solar panels into orbit. You establish universal basic income and make sure every American has a home.

You pay off all debts and launch man into the stars.

You aren't entitled to other people's things just because your mama got herself pregnant.

Post more logh, friend.

Pure Capitalism is a Jewish trick to allow them to sniff up all the money so the 1% has more money than the 99% combined.

If you you think universal healthcare, universal college, clean elections and a living wage is affordable on a population scale like the United States then the real "retard" is you

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It's all just foppery and whim

>if you don't think we should all just get a bunch of (((free))) shit, then you're crazy

okay

trillion not billion btw

But here in reality this leaves people poorer and dependent on ineffective government to live

>Free everything
>with raised wages to boot

i'm sure that will work smoothly

>universal healthcare
>universal college
>living wage

Those phrases are as Orwellian as it gets. I want to go to Harvard. Will a Harvard education be included in the "universal college" idea or will "universal college" mean an education at a lowly throwaway community college? Will I be able to get my "universal healthcare" cancer treatment at Memorial Sloan Kettering or will I have to settle for some local clinic? Will I be able to afford a Buick LaCrosse with my "living wage" or will I have to settle for bus fare?

Who is to decide how much a "living wage" should be? Who is to decide to what degree my health issues will be cared for? Who is to decide how good of a college education I should be entitled to? Unelected, nameless bureaucrats? Billionaires? A fascist dictator?

Or will you buffoonish leftists realize you are advocating for totalitarianism and the hell that comes with it?

Creme brulee is not rich people food. It's custard with melted sugar on top. Souffle is a better desert example of rich people. Caviar is only rich people foods if it is one if "those" brands. Keep in mind white bread USED to be a rich person food and lobster used to be fed to prisoners as a way of denigrating them

leftists think that if you declare something a right, that thing automatically materializes in front of them.

which is why everyone has a house and food in south africa.... NOT.