Pol BTFO on immigration

Can't refute this dumb cucks

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what did americans do before pacos starting flooding their borders?

maybe we should just reinstate serfdom.

>we need slaves
i though democrats were against slavery

When wages go up, Americans will do the work. And wages are going up

They probably left because the farm own er tried to pay those people the same that they were paying the illegals and they told him to go fuck himself.

>my business had unreasonable demands and needed unreasonable human resources to survive

>instead going out of business I'm going to fuck my country up and screw over some ultra-poor spics in the process making everyones lives, except for my own slightly more miserable!

Maybe they didn't pay the workers enough.

Trump isn't anti immigration, but anti illegals.

He loves mexicucks. Mexicucks will still work if they came legaly

> Farms offer more money
> Work gets done

Why do you support slave labour?

There are no jobs Americans won't do, only wages and working conditions they won't accept.

If you pay people a pittance to do an awful job, all you will get is third-world immigrants and the lumpenproles.

the democrats are for slavery actually. historically at least

>trying to bring logical arguments to Sup Forums
the best you'll get is a bunch of strawmen arguments, that or you'll get called a cuck.

Pretty sure you already got BTFO on this.

I wouldn't want to work with bunch of greasy Mexicans either

Good thing that won't be an issue in the near future

>Democrats have been fighting for 200 years to keep their slaves

>WE NEED SLAVERY DAMMIT
very logical, impressive, smashing, high-brow.

First, why would any of them stay if their rights were being violated
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21733804/
Second, Trump isn't anti-immigration like you idiots think. He's anti illegal immigration, which costs the USA $113 billion per year
>fairus.org/issues/publications/state-cost-studies
Third, America doesn't need immigrants, immigrants need America to escape freedomless/fascist/socialist countries
Sage

Someone else posted this last time: just put the unemployable liberal arts majors on the job and see hoe much they want their money "redistributed"

Lincoln was a Republican

nah. we'll be ok, britfag.

>paid
>willing
>slavery
okay.

Wow none can refute

Sad

>none of our own people wants to do the work
>so instead of the obvious answer called automation we're gonna illegally import thousands slave workers that'll help us displace our own people

Are libs really this retrded?

Hes anti illegals, not anti immigration
>We need to keep legal immigrants because they do our work for us
i thought dems hated slavery, also just because they work doesnt mean they should be here, theyre criminals
Also, how about the fucking farmers raise the shit wages and Benefits they provide

You be dead

Then raise the pay fucking britfag

You can't have a white community if you import a bunch of brown people.

I'd rather have expensive food and a white community than brown, brown and more brown.

Did you forget that whites have been demonized since the forced integration era? But that's the point, isn't it.?

Whites who want exclusive communities will block mass immigration and that hurts the feelings (read: profits) of the Big Boss and his poor pitiful laborers who just wanted to work.

So the Big Boss's army will come in a kill you if you try to have an all white community.

Sounds like the Big Bosses are the real problem.

>You be dead
Some day. Get to the mosque!

Immigrate legally and theres no problem. Illegals have to go back

>we, as a country, have decided that there must be a minimum wage and standards regarding working conditions
>except this shit doesn't apply the "undocumented" immigrants it's fine if you treat them like shit and pay them pennies lol
>but we totally love those guys you're a fascist if you aren't happy with things exactly as they are lol

can someone give me a phone number or a link to one of these positions? i will drop everything in my life right now to work one of these jobs.

They're often paid below the minimum wage, and their immigration status is held over them like a sword by unscrupulous employer. If they complain about their conditions or pay, or anything else, they can be threatened with deportation. If you are in any way ok with this you are basically in favour of repealing all worker rights and going back to industrial revolution standards.

Lol.
> Picture is a California community project composed mostly of black Americans.
> Mexicans made only a small portion of the people that were hired.
> It was volunteer work.
> After the week, work was pretty much already done. The company didn't expect them to work this quick.
> The remaining workers were not volunteers, but actual workers from the organization.

Mexicans did shit.

A legal citizen is less willing to work a low paying job because they have better options as they aren't illegally in the country and have nothing to hide.

So if you took away all the illegal migrant workers the company would lose it's mass supply of workers. Then it comes down to supply and demand, the demand for workers would increase by a substantial amount which should in theory cause wages to rise so that more legal citizens see it as a viable job.

It could even make automation more viable, since it could be cheaper to build a automation system than it is to hire a lot of workers.

>minimum wage
>a sound economic policy
pick one

Sure I can. There's 2.8 million prison niggers that don't have a choice and will do it for free to earn their meals and tv privileges. Fuck you, I win.

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>McDonalds workers should be paid 15 dollars an hour!

What about illegals?

>We need them to fill our workforce and do jobs that Americans won't!

......

>t .slaves owner

the republicans were the ones who are against slaves

as long as they go back

>what is a guest worker program?

KYS

What. America never had white serfdom you retard. The closest we got was post-slavery blacks in the south as sharecroppers to serfs.

Ok but how much is that? Where ya gonna store it? Who's gonna keep it maintained? How much is that gonna cost? Fuel? Delivery? Come on user, I'm not vouching for illegals but you gotta think

TBF what's the difference?

Before WWII we have family farms with poor people and their kids pickinbthem during summer.

During WWII until 1965 we had the Bracero Program, where Mexicans legally worked on US farms for a short time before returning.

actually that would've been much better than having all of the latinos and black people there just sliming up the place while I was trying to play some D&D

Sure I can, because this argument boils down to:
>We need the coloreds to work our fields all day for no pay and with no worker's rights

you'd dare challenge truth?

democracts open supporting slavery, wow.

Easy. Send the welfare losers and food stamps tossers to the pickling fields. They can has job. Lazy fucks. If you can work and won't no dole for you.

>illegals do jobs Americans won't!

Pay market wages.

How much did they pay you to post this, faggot?

>what is reservation wage
If you import third worlders willing to do shitty job for shitty pay, the wage is going to be under the standards of the native population.
OTOH if you don't import those third worlders, employers will have to raise their wages to match the native population standards.
There's a reason the industries employing the more illegals workers are those than can't do offshoring.
Why can't leftists understand that?

Supply and demand. Companies will have to readjust their criminally greedy profit margins and pay legal workers a wage that can sustain a healthy life. Your countries attitude towards minimum wage needs a serious look at. Companies (and government) in your own country have some of you convinced raising minimum wage is bad and will mean less jobs, when in reality it is the CEOs of huge companies treating the worker like a sweatshop worker in China because they are morally incapable of slightly reducing their profit margins in favour of allowing their employees sustain a first world existence. These people are traitors and Trump is dead right taxing foreign production and penalising these bastards.

Exactly. This is why Europe has made strides in automation because they don't have illegals willing to work for peanuts.

>but you gotta think

yes, yes you do. You can get them used for around 100k which is not much to a farmer, everything else you asked is common sense and should not have to be explained to you.

Because neoliberalism is all about exploiting the feelings of weak willed people for corporate benefit. In this case it's so effective that they've been convinced it's racist to not allow employers to bring back serfdom since, as you said, it's impossible for them to simply shift the labour to the third world and employ literal serfs. Then they'll sit around wondering why the wealth gap continues expanding to cosmic proportions despite diligently supporting neoliberal policy for decades.

It's also why people are going on about universal income because they think we'll naturally get to a stage where automation is cheaper than employment.

Elon Musk keeps going on about it, and he seems to be the person who may kill off taxi and truck driver type jobs

Exactly. In addition to that, immigration does not improve the wealth of the country exporting those workers. Mexico has not improved a bit since it started mass exporting people to the US. The same goes with France / Algeria, Netherlands / Morocco, Germany / Turkey etc.

Why? Because not only it doesn't allow their demography to transition to more perennial models but it also drains young men and women that would be the first to overthrow their corrupt and/or ineffective government if forced to stay at home.

But as long as limo leftists can pretend to be progressive and antiracist as they speak broken Spanish to their maids and gardeners, every body should feel better, I guess...

Need more mechanization.

Source?

If the job needed done and no migrant workers were available, they wpuld have to offer higher wages until people started showing. They are offering slave pay. That needs to stop

Thing is, as long as you can get away with paying shit wages, to blackleg Labour. You will never tackle the problem. All ready in anticipation of Brexit, machines are being developed to do the job, of picking fruits.
We have mostly automated factories that can produce garments, but some company's still use child labour.

>limo leftists

we prefer to be called champagne socialists (bolli bolsheviks) thank you

In France we say gauche caviar.

Farms get 6 gorillion dollars in subsidies a year. How the fuck can they justify not paying legal wages? Americans WILL do dirty jobs; I was a groundskeeper in college.

What were the paying?

Yeah! You need to pay people shit wages to do something because anarchy! Take that republicans!

hur dur what are H2A Visas?

> Democrat in 1860's
> If there is no slavery, who would work on the farm?

> Democrat in 2017
> If there is no cheap illegal immigrant labor, who would work on the farm

It's just pottery

Shit tier jobs.
Not being done by robots.

It's 2017 faggot. Why the hell do we need cheap labor to do jobs that robots should be doing. Stop being a retard. Automation is the future. Not slaves.

If you're paying me the proper wage to be out in the sun for 8-10 hours a day, then yes, I would happily do it because I have worked out in the sun in Florida for those hours.
However, Americans aren't going to be paid fucking peanuts like the Mexicunts gladly take.

We should grab all the NEETs and hire them to do this work if they want to keep getting their bux.

Employers need to make PROFIT. There are enough taxes and regulation already and the minimum wage is too high already. This generation is too soft.

>Implying that we can't LEGALLY import workers to pick crops, etc.

>employers that can't make a profit without importing third-worlders that will fuck-up the economy of our countries in the long run need to make profit
?!? Why? You do realize that the children of those immigrants will have the same reservation wage of their fellow countrymen right? Same standards but most of the time not the same education level, wealth and relationships and that a vast majority will fail, become bitter, violent and a drag on society? Then what? Import more immigrants? Then what?