Is college the ultimate bluepill?
>spent 6 years in college getting masters in chemistry
>got out 75k in debt
>currently working lab job making 18 bucks an hour
meanwhile
>friend dropped out sophomore year
>makes well over 100k per year running his own business and has been doing this for all those years i wasted getting into debt
>other friend went to trade school and was making 80k per year at age 20 and now making even more
did i fall for the biggest meme of all?
Business can be unpredictable and tradesman stay on the same average wages. Just give it a bit until you have the xp and you'll get a good salary.
You have a lot better job security or just break bad and deal meth up to you
Did you get an M.A.? M.S.? What was your GPA? Did you intern? Did you network?
Did you get your degree in Chemical Engineering? Petroleum specialization?
If you made mediocre grades and got a M.A. in some general chemistry degree and are making peanuts working for a research lab, you really have no one to blame but yourself.
M.S.
3.3 gpa
interned where im working now
general
I don't know much about Science fields, but if you wanted to make money why not get an engineering degree?
Science degrees limit you to being a researcher or professor.
fellow sorry chemist
50k debt
really, really wanted to use my degree, i really did...found out i'd be doing 15$ titrations forever.
i am near all those damn tech companies, and a bit of biotech, they dont pay enough to cover cost of living. I fought it for so long, but ultimately surrendered to corporate fuck you in the ass job
pays good now, but really wish i could have just sacked up and PHD'd it and moved back east where all those jobs supposedly are.
Are there no real chem jobs anywhere? That would actually make me feel better.
Your dubz say yes
College can either be blue pilled as fuck or red, depending on how you use it. It's a tool to get from point a to point b. Too many fuckin people go and don't even know what they want out of it, sounds like you just need to go around and network more
>when 6 yrs for master and no doc
the fuck took you so long?
>synthetic organic aren't you
what specialty?
He means 4 for bachelor + 2 for ms
I just want a straight answer.
I am an autist so I am stuck in STEM meme. Which is least bad? I heard chem and electrical engineering were the least bad, is that true?
electrical eng and mechanical eng are the best degrees
and electrical engineering is basically the hardest degree
Fuck I was told mech was shit and chm was hard and electrical was your best chance.
>chemical engineering
>hard
lol, you know you can get a B.A. in chemical engineering, right? same with computer science. they're meme degrees.
>6 years
HAHA
>masters
HAHAHAHAHA
>in chemistry
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What about petroleum engineering? Shit in the current situation but that's not sustainable.
i have no idea what the deal is for canada
but here in the states, mech and elec engineers will always be high paid jobs because government contracts can only go through US citizens, so while companies like apple and google can import all the cheap h1b labor for coding on their projects, and compsci majors see their wages get screwed, mech and elec engineers at, as an example, lockheed martin, or wherever, who work government contracts, only us citizens can work these contracts. so these engineers are protected from imported skilled labor sucking away their jobs.
you can always make money as an engineer, but i would assume that as a petroleum engineer you might run into the same h1b problems that comp sci guys run into, since you are specifically working for corporations and not government contracts?
this is all my crude understanding, someone correct me if i'm wrong
I see, that makes a lot of sense actually, but yeah may not apply to me as a leaf, id have to see how things work here for immigrant workers.
College is absolutely the ultimate bluepill. I'm only two semesters in and I feel my brain cells committing mass suicide every time I walk into a lecture hall. Honestly thinking about dropping out and going to pilot school instead.
Me
BS in chemistry- would love to go for a PhD but not sure if its worth it
Making 45k (Pittsburgh PA)
Working on mass specs
Not research which I love but get to travel all the time which is awesome
Not posting this because I recommend that anyone does/doesn't do what I did. But you all should know there's more out there than lab monkey. It usually pays a bit more but is not as cutting edge research but there's still a lot to learn with any profession.
Even though engineering pays double my salary every engineer I've met hates it amd is just there for financial stablility
I'll leave itat that. Regardless of what you do there will be shit.
>me
>two masters degrees
>support unemployed SO for years
>SO finally gets job zero education
>makes $40/hr starting, no exp.
Yes. We've all been memed.
it could have been worse, you could have taken liberal arts or women studies or something equally retarded
most small businesses don't make a profit for years. Even when they do make a profit, the margins can be slim. You should have taken 2 years at a community college, and finished your bachelors at a state college. The total cost would have been probably 25k or less. Working part time for those 4 years could have made you debt free.
You have to go to college to be an engineer so it's not all bad
Pretty much yeah. Most sciency majors don't make alot of money unless you're a medical doctor or engineer. I am at a CC studying comp sci, if this doesn't work out imma join a trade or the police. My GF runs a business. Hardly works and makes fucking bank. I help her out sometimes and it's almost enjoyable doing what she does.
>Did you network?
I wish I knew more about networking before it was too late and actually fucking interned, instead of putting it off.
But I didn't really know what I was going to do with my life until my last junior semester.
t. last semester senior
At least I somehow through my father will be working with pharm tech, so that's something.
I'm such a fool.
Daddy saves the day
I'm not proud of it, but I'm not dropping the ball anymore.
>>Did you network?
This is just knowing people in academia/corporations who get you the job you're applying for? "Having the right connections"?
What does she do?
Sells cock-rings & dildos
Watch breaking bad.
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