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an article from bizarro USA where Bernie is president

It's from last week, look like they haven't woken up yet.

Why do you want to read liberal propaganda?

Young burgers are seriously delusional. I haven't come across of others being this delusional...

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Good thing i went to trade school, where i was given a job and school was payed for by my company. Enjoy mowing my lawn Univeristycucks

JUST LIKE IN MY VIDEO GAMES

All the people I know have tons of college debt. Meanwhile I have no debt, got my own place, good job,

>where i was given a job and school was payed for by my company

Out of pure interest, how is that working out? Playing handyman for a year or two, as to ensure you are a hard worker, and then companies send those that "pass" in for schooling?

Same here. Still working on Bachelor's, but I'm paying out of pocket. It's taking me a year longer as I have to recuperate, but at least I'll graduate with zero debt. Feels good.

If a company finds you to be a good employee they will often send you to get educated for the promotion

Student loans were a mistake

Now not only the market is oversaturated but these retards will be in debt for their whole life

>be me
>graduate 6 years ago
>$50k loan about 80% paid off because I live in a $600/month shit apartment and put most of my paycheck towards it for the last few years. I've accumulated no wealth in this time because paying off loan

>be millenial
>get 120k in student loans
>they all get forgiven lol

Is our (24-30 year olds) generation fucked harder than any other generation? We have the older baby boomers sucking our paychecks dry to pay for their social security and healthcare, we have to fight tooth and nail in a job market that our parents fucked, we have to buy houses in an imploded real estate market where all the good loans have dried up, we have to pay off massive student loans before we can even start accumulating wealth, and now the generations behind us are going to fuck us in the ass to pay for their student loans also.

It's the shit man
Got out of high school, started as an apprentice for a plumbing company when i was 18
They sent me to school, payed for it all if i signed a contract to work for them for a set amount of years
Tradesman are in high demand in the states, I'm sure it's the same in Germany.
Basically all trades are like this

SERVICE GUARANTEES STUDENT LOAN CANCELLATION.

We should send them to liberate Europe.

The Government guaranteeing student loans was the dumbest idea ever

I realized in high school I'm not college material. In fact most people have no business being in university let alone having the ability to take out federal loans to pay for bullshit degrees. Unless you're obtaining an advanced skill work for someone else or better yet START YOURE OWN BUISNESS.

They seriously underestimate how the world works if they think that (((loan))) will be forgiven

>own the media
>hey goy if you get a loan it will be forgiven eventually!
>see you NEED that gender studies degree STEM and trades are dead industries
>kids get loan
>stuck paying it off for the rest of their lives
>le happy merchant

only an idiot would make any effort to pay back a student loan. its basically free money.

Fuck off we are full

The real Polish Jew way is be poor but smart get Obama and Catholic uni to cover 85% tuition. Work n save like a Jew in college to graduate debt free.

Actually got 27k saved n I just turned 24 :) just moved out with gf to one of her mums properties.

>>Polish Jew Privilege

Only an idiot would not try to pay off student loan, especially if they are looking to get a mortgage and a lease. Banks will not do anything to help you if you don't make the effort to pay off your debt.

I know, Jewish tricks, but if you're smart, you can live a good life balancing your credit.

TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN
Enough with the (((generation))) meme. You think people in the 19th century even gave a fuck? There were just young and old

I'm not paying my loans and idc cause I'm gonna die anyway lol

It's real apparently:
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I'm not even surprised. The whole reason Comrade Sanders became popular was because college liberals wanted him to forgive their loans. These people have ruined their entire lives by getting loans for worthless degrees.

>poor
>one of her mums properties

Fuck off 2bh

>student loans will be forgiven by the government
>eventually college will be paid for by the government
>medical bills will be paid for by the government
>"pre-existing conditions" will not prevent this
>everyone can come into the country, without proper paperwork, and also automatically experience these benefits—no vetting (medical or otherwise,) needed!

How do people not see the potential wealth of problems this would cause?

>tfw had 100k in college debt between my wife and myself
>three years later it's down by half and our monthly minimums are nothing
>on track to be debt free in another 3-4 years

slow and steady. thank you Dave Ramsey debt snowball

Nice blog.

>loans are sins to the jew

>Having to take a massive loan for education

>G-good thing I live in the GREATEST COUNTRY on earth, r-right guys?

Thank G-d for the Shabbos Goy servants, amirite?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Feels good to study for €1,5k + food and shared flat a year.

Why would they think that?

>How do people not see the potential wealth of problems this would cause?

Uh, germany, immigration crisis - those ring a bell? Got your potential problems right there!

Doesn't sound that much different from our system then (though we obviously have it more complicated, with the apprentice being state-schooled ~1,5 days a week - for which they also get paid, albeit a pittance only)

let's just wait until the DoE is dismantled first, then i'll stop paying loans

Idk might just be because Canada is run by cucks but I haven't attempted to pay back any student loan and it's been 3-4 years and no one has come after me. My credit Rating is 750.

Most of Europe has free education and healthcare

We also dont spend 32 trillion a year on nig nog welfare

>Uh, germany, immigration crisis - those ring a bell? Got your potential problems right there!

Lefties over here refuse to see those problems. They see Germany as some perfect model system, of social utopia. Their response to the points outline are usually "well, it's working for Germany!", and anytime that's countered with facts of what's really going on in Germany, it's followed with "what are you, some Nazi? You're bringing up outliers that are extremely rare".

Disgusting.

What's the matter these days with people not understanding the meaning of a loan.

A loan isn't something you take because you simply need/want money. A loan is something you take when you believe you can use it for an initial investment that has a return on investment higher than the loan+cost of living.

If you didn't make this computation before you took out a loan, you are literally a retard.

What does that mean? Like they think it'll just disappear?
I never understood the issue with student loans. I'm in Uni. I'm working my ass off and it's paying off. When I finish I'll keep working my ass off and pay my debt off pretty quick because education leads to higher earnings. It's an investment.

How are you supposed to formulate the appropriate counter arguments if you don't understand your opponents train of thought, however dumb and hypocritical it may be?

If more people knew the way of the Jew the White Race could progress better.

What is the average debt of a student and the interest rat?

I'm finishing my bachelor's in chemistry right now, what should I look at if I want to work a trade outside? I'm applying to lineman apprentice his currently

They can't forgive the loans, it would be unfair for the ones that paid.
The post that they could do is to forgive the interest rates.

4-6% interest rate & 35-40k

>Come on now, these bankers are reasonable, they'll just let me have the money for free!

>free

Stop using that word.

>not paying back a guaranteed loan for an education you pretty much need = retard

>paying back loans to insolvent banks bailed out with your taxes = smart

yes, kinda see your point there kiddo

depends, i think in the US you are totally fucked, but the uk for example, the loans are not a consideration for credit ratings. you would be stupid to pay it back.

It's easy to have social programs in a largely homogeneous country with

Pretty clever approach to keep its citizens enslaved.

>You're bringing up outliers that are extremely rare

Well, for all it is worth at least my circle has gotten wise to those "outliers". Doubt many of them will vote for the traditional parties either, though I don't know how much "Shy Voter" syndrome we can hope for this year.

A bit more on topic - college is free in germoney, with students (and business that hires them) even getting some tax extemption. While we do have those "stay in study" folks, and an increasing amount of useless degrees, having it be "non profit", doesn't spawn whole new fields of study for tricking young adults into debt either. two-sided sword, that socialism.

Yeah, if you do STEM. But if you do shit like social studies, gender studies and all that useless shit, you are literally getting dumber every semester. Nobody will hire you because nobody needs your soft skill shit in the industry, if you are really really lucky you might get a job as a professor at a university teaching the same shit. That's why they want,need and create artifical problems and quotas.

Average is around 40k but many have over 100k. Interest rates vary- federal subsidized loans have no interest. Unsubsidized have rates that are low (~4% or less). Private loans ca be anywhere from 4-12%. Parent Plus loans are god awful at around 10%

Kids take loans often because they don't have any counseling to explain the process to them. They get their tuition bill and they think "how can I pay for this" and just take out as many loans as necessary, sometimes taking out extra to buy themselves furniture or a car or something.

I joined the military and got that sweet sweet GI bill money with BAH

I'm get a dual AAS in network management and computer security systems. Is this a good idea?

>have chemistry degree
>get into trades
Why? I don't see how it would have any relevance outside of working at some chemical plant.

I'd serve to gain forgiveness, this would be a huge economic opportunity. We need a massive infrastructure rebuild and strong military, Theodore Roosevelt-esque. Give these failing students an opportunity to try out trade and vocational classes; most tradesmen are close to retirement or death. Who will weld, dig, rivet and build the future of our country. That's one thing we need go figure out ASAP.

Well it's a BS so it's a pretty wide range of courses, only 10 of which are specific to chemistry really. I've had course in engineering physics, E&M, wide range of labs etc. I'd just rather work outside than be a lab rat(which is all I can do with a chem degree).

Don't call me a kiddo, because I made sound decisions based on numbers and facts and got ahead while you didn't and are now in trouble that you caused yourself.

What did you study? Did you really NEED that?

Do a quick calculation, if you didn't go to school for said degree and had worked at mcDonalds instead during that time and put a little bit of money aside each month to f.e. put in index funds (you can even ignore this last part, the end result will be the same).

How much money would you have had then? How much debt would you have had?

How much money do you have now? How much debt do you have now?

I rest my case.

>A bit more on topic - college is free in germoney,

no, it is paid for by the taxpayer, often enough by those having learnt a trade.

You sound like a bitch

Giving loans to 18 years old is an abusive behavior, they cannot process it biologically.

I cannot say I am surprised. I do know a bunch of people who got into debt for an absolutely retarded degree, and are now bitching 24/7 and basically commie-tier because they have to work shit jobs to pay it back.

And they all think it is unfair. They won't flat out say it, but you can tell from their choice of words and implications that they think no one has the right to ask them to pay their debts.

I honestly don't know how they ever got this retarded impression. It says right on the fucking contract that you are supposed to pay it back and also that you'll be paying interests. There was absolutely nothing ambiguous about it that could have been misunderstood.

Chemistry is not fun and it's not that high paying.

It really blows me away how selfish these people are.

They really think they are above lower class people that pay their way through college and refuse to even pay back loans they personally took out while screaming for everyone else to share their wealth.

If this study is true, there is an obvious disconnect between reality and what these kids are being told in school.

where are the parents?

>tfw working while going to school so I can pay my way without loans
i want to die

>tfw I get myself a forbearance every year

People who pay student loans are useful idiots with weak will power. They're the same guys at work that girls get to do their bitchwork by asking them with high pitched voices.

>take out loans
>have money to pay off tuition anyway
>graduate
>pay off loans immediately with no interest
>credit rating skyrockets
>Jew gains nothing

I am the Jew now.

this thread seems related


I saw this in another thread about who people living off of welfare tend to shop like this where as people with jobs dont

i mean i dont get a bunch of junk food and fill my cart to the top but I dot get a lot of groceries that i use to cook with

i also dont have a job but I dont need wellfare. Will people know that I a NEET? When is the right time to go grocerie shopping?

Yes, you are right - but this thread isn't about semantics, but about college students. So in this context, college is free.

As for the sentiment, we sure should prune down on useless degrees, and maybe only make the first ~two degrees excempt from cost? Well, not like anything like that will happen though.

oh dear, have i triggered you? do you need a safe space?

Why would anyone ever think that?

but why are they given the loans when somebody should know full well it's beyond their means?

I know this but with I'm drawing a blank on any "field work". Anything to do with any of those fields will be a desk job. Work outside will only use his degree to show that he can follow through with something. Maybe get a job working on radio towers and such.

Maximum.

>be me
>in austraya
>pay $8K/year or $24K total for bachelor of biomedical science degree
And I can pay back whenever I want, no interests, no loans, didn't even buy any unnecessary textbooks

Kill yourselves, amerifats

>no but u

his argument was solid, why even reply if that's all you have to say? fucking non country

Well, it used to be 500 yurops per semester. Not that much if you ask me. As a student you should have the brain to accumulate 500 yurops over 6 months.
Luckily non eu students now need to pay 1.5k each semester.

this is it, the student loans staff are aggressive and pushy for a reason, they need you to fear not paying it back. because, quite simply, you dont have to. so why the fuck would you?

if you graduated 6 year ago you're a millenial

They are given because banks are predators. They know they can come after you for money.

The government loans on the other hand are given as a form of gibs. It's basically illegal to prevent someone from going to college because of money

Germany doesn't even have free healthcare. No even the meme kind of "free".
They have to pay for it themselves. It's not covered by the government through taxes, they are just forced by law to get one.

Don't laugh. It is actually quite possible that a league of leftist universities join forces and decide to offer free degrees to jihadists, women, transgenders, lgbtqwertys, and other oppresed peoples.
White men will have to pay for them.

Very strong argument. I see why you did so well for yourself.

This is debatable, maybe you're right that some people are not "adult" enough to make these decisions at that age, but at the same time, if we agree someone is an adult at that age then we should let adults be able to make adult decisions.

It wouldn't be fair for an 18 year old adult who wants to start a business right out of highschool, not to be allowed to take out a loan for it because some of his peers are morons.

Maybe you could have some sort of mandatory test about loans that makes sure people understand what they're getting into, but idk, that would also include the government into something they have no business in imo.

PS: I am a Flemish Nationalist so I agree 100% Belgium is a non-country.

Ptotip: The money was imaginary all along and the bankers never lost anything.

You'll thin out.

not everyone can go.
have to pass HS (13 grades) exit exams.
you go where you are placed, not always where you want.
graduate work, esp. PHD is long (6-7 years) and you are basically a slave to the professors you study under.
college with advanced degrees means you come out of school mid-20's to early 30's.
any support money you take (BaFÖG), has to be repaid. no interest, though. There is a small tuition, room & board, books and supplies, etc. that you can get support for.

>lgbtqwerty
kek

>Lefties over here refuse to see those problems.

Dunno about that man. I'm German, currently in Commiefornia, and while people here absolutely hate Trump, they don't even question it for a second when I tell them what is going on in Germany. They flat out accept everything I tell them.

I don't think many of them have any strong feelings about Germany at all, it's just a meme answer they like to use but never spend any particular thought on.

What on earth makes these jackasses think they can borrow tens of thousands of dollars and that would just be "forgiven"

They are undocumented. How are you expecting them to pay after deportation?

Education would have major financial blow soon.

wow, no wonder they hire us.

Ironically, everyone not clever enough to understand this should have also been never allowed to attend university, because they aren't smart enough to teach them anything more advanced anyway.

I don't have any loans, because I went through on scholarship, but I'm vaguely aware that there are types of student loans that whatever you have left at 10 years is forgiven.