Why early 90's college people sound so educated and civilized? What went wrong?
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""rape me" I found that kinda offensive"
Women. Women never change.
Nigger: "Can I get another one?"
Always appreciating the gibs.
because all college americans talk like lena dunham
Boomers
I miss being an innocent kid back then.
Jews
Honestly
What are you doing on Sup Forums, grandpa?
Because americans are fucking retarded, for them University degrees are a business, and a business needs to grow.
But how can such a Business grow when people actually turn dumber every year?
Right, you lower everything and sell bullshit degrees to retards so they can feel smart.
Last remnants of a decent education system before common core and indoctrination went into full effect.
We do the same thing, but actually pay the students for it.
That was gen x and this is why we look down on millennials. This is why we ended up with good jobs and moved out of our parents house before the age of 25. Uni millennials are nigger tier.
Generation X you fucking retard.
>The only Generation X that mattered.
But really Gen X had to still work for their shit, and had the Dot Com bubble that made a ton of them wealthy for a short while.
Millennials just have participation trophies, and self depicting humor.
Lowering education standards
Rise of video game culture
Rise of celebrity worship
MTV
Rise in drug use
9/11
Rise in cultural Marxism
It's a little bit of everything desu.
I'm not that old, 29.
Why 9/11?
once upon a time people grew up without having the internet shape their life
It was boomer parents spoiling their youngest child. Education system brainwashing them to become liberals. The internet allowed the sjw a platform to spread their diseased opinion. A black president allowing blacks to become all uppity and we waz kings and shit. Boomers were much harder on gen x kids. Mine said out by 18 or pay rent unless I was in school in that case it was rent once done. I knew guys paying their parents $500 a month to stay in their bedroom. If boomers had treated millennial like they treated their gen x children they might have had a chance to fight back against all the other bullshit.
This is mostly the result of government provided student loans given to every single person who wants to go to college, regardless of risk. As a result, there is an influx of artificially created demand from those who do not have any reason to be there, who will not pay off their loan, and who will be funded by tax payers. Liberal policy has quite literally made college as meaningless and as expensive as humanly possible.
its right there in the vid mate, nirvana.
The bums got their way. Any sense of responsibility for anything other than your own pleasure is given up. the people in charge thought the nihilism in songs like "rape me" was actually going to improve society lol.
incrementalism means (((their)) plan affects each generation worse than the previous one
The long march through the institutions is coming to an end. Commie Core kids are leftist meat puppets.
>t.
It quite simple really. The West "won" the Cold War but in reality we have been losing to marxists for a about two decades now.
When the Berlin wall fell, the entire West was filled with a sense of victory but also complacency. The millions of people that migrated westwards for "freedom" , many of them highly educated individuals were also heavily indoctrinated communists. They were welcomed into the West with open arms, given jobs and positions of influence in politics, government, academics and the community,
From there they have been able to shape the downfall of Western capitalist democracy in the guise of "progressive-ism" which rails against the core values that made our society strong and prosperous.
Look it up for yourself. Our downfalls began when the first brick was removed from that wall. The timeline begins there.
I pray that gen z is as bad ass as people say. If that's the case millennials will go down in history as the biggest mistake of the century. I don't know what we will do with such a large unemployable generation. Gen x is too small to support you fuckers.
Because collages were full of women and hardly any males, and they were civilized.
Now, letting males back into university just raised the rapes on campus. Mostly by white males. (look up the statistics)
This is why we have feminism.
I can't argue with this. It was 5 or so years later when I started hearing about diversity and that was the start of the downfall
911 kick started public safety before 911 people didn't need to worry about leaving their homes, there wasn't a need to march and protest about muh family muh war. we we live in a age of fear.
Weren't colleges/unis back then more preppy? With frat houses and rich kids? Seems like you don't need to go to Uni to be rich today and there is virtually no interaction between students unless you are chad and Stacey.
>White America before the nigger culture takeover
Take us back
I hope you realize you're part of the problem.
>men on campus
>triggered, they could rape me
Is basically all you're saying.
Whats with all the accents?
K so you'll just let us starve?
How about you provide for yourself, work hard and create a stable and sustainable retirement plan?
Lazy cunt
Yep, its around that time too, perhaps 96/97 when I started hearing it. Just enough time for people in academics to influence people coming through a BA degree in university.
Also look at the way you see in US tv shows and films they always make it out like Europe is more "progressive" and socially advanced compared to the US. The invasion begun in Europe and has been creeping Westward ever since. Germany and Sweden two of the most eastern West European countries have been the first to fall to the ideology. However a country like Switzerland which has always been traditionally conservative and separate from the rest of western Europe is relatively unscathed compared to the others.
They are making the final push now to take over the USA in whatever way they can be it through indoctrination of future influential people at university or with massive demographic change with people who don't care about the country they moved to and only want the benefits.
We are losing. The battle for the USA is our Stalingrad. It has to turn there and push back or we are fucked.
Late 90's jews went into overdrive as they had 9/11 all planned out.
The track they had planned out for white genocide was about to take place, first dumbing people down, then sending their children off to war using their false flag operation.
Then by indoctrinating entire generations to nigger culture, drugs, porn, etc.
The west cannot survive as long as Jews have this much power, they will be our downfall as many other peoples of all races and creeds predicted before us, hence the jews are always thrown out or genocided to a certain point.
it's normal for human beings that they want to live together in peace but jews are just trying to destroy human civilization time and again.
>Also look at the way you see in US tv shows and films they always make it out like Europe is more "progressive" and socially advanced compared to the US. The invasion begun in Europe and has been creeping Westward ever since. Germany and Sweden two of the most eastern West European countries have been the first to fall to the ideology. However a country like Switzerland which has always been traditionally conservative and separate from the rest of western Europe is relatively unscathed compared to the others.
I noticed this same thing. Enlighten me on this. USSR techniques being used on unwitting westerners?
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This is so fucking depressing bros I wanna cry
Holy shit.
This was MTV. News. News on MTV.
It's more professional than most mainstream media now.
Same thought, same age.
What up '87 bro
Best year to be born by far.
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Yea but she was able to discuss it without freaking out like an autist
How was Germany back then?
>the black guy likes "Rape Me"
Less shitskins, more money, other than that, not much different.
Just a nice place to live and grow up. Had to fight off the occasional turk group because im from cologne. But once they realise you can fight and will defend yourself they dont try anymore and actually respect you.
Nirvana had to have been part of some nwo cultural program. There's no way a band that shit would just get so big. I believe this to be the case with most bands that got big (beatles, pink floyd, led zeppelin, the rolling stones).
I get called a conspiracy nut by my mates but I strongly believe popular culture has been carefully controlled since the mid 20th century and anyone who thinks it's just random is retarded.
what a fuckin boss picture
Its just a theory really that I've had for a while since I begun to notice it when I was in my final years in highschool in 04/05.
Almost all of the American tv shows that I enjoyed at the time were heavily pushing the idea that Europeans were superior to Americans
because we are more socially "progressive", we have free education and healthcare etc.
So the effect is two fold. Young Americans feel bad because they are portrayed as inferior so as young people they do what comes natural and try fit in, copy and be cool. On the other end of the scale millions young Europeans that watch American tv are boosted by this sense of superiority to the "dumb and fat" Americans who used to be the top dog, so they double down on the "progressiveness".
The link for me comes here when you realise that the greatest prolific proponents of Marxism and Communism have mostly been Jewish. The US media is almost solely run by Jewish people also.
I'm not a rabid anti-semite or anything, it has taken me a long time to come to term with the "the Jews are behind it" meme but its undeniable to me now.
The Soviet Union was just a Slavic patsy in the war of globalisation against our Western domination and prosperity. It outlived its use and was allowed fall so that the next stage could begin. The vast majority of people these days are so unthinking and engrossed in self-admiration that they do things that are counter to their own well being. See for example the feminists in Berlin last month screaming Allahu Akbar at an anti-trump protest. They are portrayed positively in the media and told how good they are and thats all they want, thats what will satisfy them.
When you become "redpilled" its a curse as much as a blessing. I can never switch it off as much as I wish I could some times. Every day I see the reality of our situation and see our legacy shrivel an inch at a time every day.
Hey hey, calm your horses Nigel, Kurt Cobain had a great voice, they had a really good drummer.
I get your argument with the bands you name after.
The beatles were clearly a weapon of mass confusion.
>This limey faggot doesn't like the last great rock band.
Get out young fag.
I wonder what Billy is doing now.
>Undecided major
do u have any sources on this or is it just speckulayshun
Seek professional help.
Studios have always played a big part in the success of many groups, but they always did it to make money, and you made money by pushing the best acts.
The beatles, stones, and pink floyd were all clearly talented and distinguished themselves by their personalities, music, and showmanship.
>The beatles were clearly a weapon of mass confusion.
I have no idea what that means, but anyone who disparages the beatles is viewing them from a later period. at the time no one doubted that they were genuine in every way. John Paul and George spent literally years playing all night long in clubs before they began to have wide spread success and their first recordings.
The monkees were fake in almost every way, and had amazing success, which means that you can be fake as long as somebody writes decent songs for you and you have adorable looks and personalities.
Sorry but that is absolute bullshit. Progressivism was never a thing in the communist world and is why those countries are so much more based today.
The USSR imprisoned gays, was nationalistic (albeit for "soviet nationalism"), had no significant feminist movement, no forced diversity (different ethnicities given their own states) etc.
This shit started in the west in the 60's with the hippie movement, civil rights etc.
When were you born Sup Forums?
'88 here.
I can't even watch TV anymore. Even a few minutes has my blood boiling.
>The vast majority of people these days are so unthinking and engrossed in self-admiration that they do things that are counter to their own well being. See for example the feminists in Berlin last month screaming Allahu Akbar at an anti-trump protest. They are portrayed positively in the media and told how good they are and thats all they want, thats what will satisfy them.
Spot on. K-12 is prussian serfdom. It produces zombies who are very receptive to commands and propaganda. Hollywood went full Jew around 1900.
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Yes, all popular media is forced down on people. It's used to put thoughts in your head subconsciously. Many media companies function as mercenary Babylonian style mystery cults.
It was a more innocent time
They're libshit cucks just as millennials. Why wouldn't they be? They're in (((school)))! Just saw a Watter's World segment on The Factor the other night where he interviewed current high school students (gen Z) and they sounded the same as millennials except for being even more retarded and faggoty. Give it up. This generation thing is a fantasy. Every generation has liberals and conservatives and while they are young most are liberal. As long as Jews control the education system at least. Millennials will get more conservative as they get older (just like boomers) and further separated from college.
>falling for such obvious bait
If you look hard enough, you'll find a conspiracies everywhere
Sometimes things are just excellent of perceived as excellent by a population is looking for something new.
The Beatles arrived 17 years after the war, the post-war boomers were coming of age and latched onto pop music as an act of rebellion against the previous generation
Not everything is manipulated or, when it is, is not succesfully manipulated. You give too much credit to TPTB
The downfall moments for the 90s - Springer (jew), Muarry Povich (jew), MTVs 'The Real World' (Paxton/Murray - half jew creators), crack, welfare, cable news networks, glorification of black vs police violence by the entertainment industry, and Eddie Murphy ultra celeb normalizing excessive cursing and overly boastful attitude. Black role models shifted to rappers, crude comedians, and athletes.
I really liked nirvana when I was young, so I don't think so. I think music will reflect cultural conditions and changes that are already there.
I blame Obama for a lot of the thought manipulation.
He promised them a world that could never exist, even if we wanted it to.
Not sure what will become of this group, it's sad to think about.
>Hollywood went full Jew around 1900.
what the fuck are you smoking? feature-length motion pictures weren't a thing until nearly a decade after that, and for that matter hollywood has always been unabashedly jewish
That was back when college was for actual higher education and not government mandated indoctrination.
Pre-9/11 America was as good as it gets. Sure there were still other great Euro countries, but America was a realized dream and you could still achieve anything you wanted to in it, advance in class, income, education...I remember when people during our wartime went there to work and did very well even as refugees, so not immigrants with good income or anything. I have few distant relatives there, they can do whatever there, some have great businesses. If someone went there now, its not as lucrative
FAFSA, affirmative admission, millennials
Globalisation and the rise of mobile/Internet technologies did ao much more harm to our societies than most people would care to admit. This all shifted into 'overdrive' in the latter half of the 90s.
The 90s were the zenith of the boomer civilization, essentially all the bad things had yet to kick in but all the good stuff was there. The fall of the Soviet Union only made it even better. The mid-late 90s (Around 1997 I'd say) was the peak if it were a graph. We've been in steady decline ever since
Things started to go downhill in about 1996.
People tend to overrate then 90s as a whole. 90-95 were fantastic years, but the decade began to decline in about 96. The late 90s weren't that good at all tbph.
'96 was definitely when everything went wrong.
>Pre-9/11 America
;_;
Kurt would've been 100% Pro-Hillary
you didnt have to go to college to get a job in the 90s, so people went there for interest and they actually cared about it
>Its just a theory really that I've had for a while
Sorry mate, I wish I could say go back to school to learn about this stuff but you'd probably just end up indoctrinated.
>Progressivism was never a thing in the communist world
I never said it was.
>those countries are so much more based today.
Those countries are culturally meaningless, globally irrelevant (with the exception of Russia) and most importantly dirt poor.
Give them time and they will be towing the line soon enough.
>USSR imprisoned gays.
So did my country. Last person sentenced for it was in 1991.
>had no significant feminist movement
It didn't need one. Women served in an equal capacity to men in every regard as workers. That is how communism works, everyone is paid the same and has the same rights. To be leaders it was a different story but you had to be connected anyway to ever reach that level.
>no forced diversity
You don't understand. Communism doesn't need diversity. It requires uniformity and utter reliance and self identification with the state. Like what is happening the in the EU currently, we are being pressured into dropping our Irish/British/French etc identities in favour of being a "European".
We have diversity forced upon us because it is what is required to break down the foundations of our nations.
>his shit started in the west in the 60's with the hippie movement, civil rights etc.
Yep. That is where its started, among groups with strong leanings towards communism and Marxism.
>I pray that gen z is as bad ass as people say.
PROTIP: The "Gen Z is conservative" meme is from a study that polled British kids. I'll let you take a wild guess why they got so many that might frown upon gays and degeneracy.
Haha, how ironic.
Fuck jews though, such nice pair of skycrapers I will never get to see now.
>Trump suddenly becomes an albino super-aryan when accused of anti-semitism
Really activates my almonds
There's a lot we'll never see.
/Fucking This
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We have a winner
>Progressivism was never a thing in the communist world and is why those countries are so much more based today.
>The USSR imprisoned gays, was nationalistic (albeit for "soviet nationalism"), had no significant feminist movement, no forced diversity (different ethnicities given their own states) etc.
Fool, progressive orgy culture was the hook for early commie movements. Sex was regulated later. Sexual movements are used against ones enemies to destabilize them.
all changed after the ritual initiation of globalism in fall of 2001, like a rift in our dimension and all we have now is chaos...
2001 is the diverging point when we crossed into the wrong timeline. Everything after felt off and kept getting worse until we got to how things are today.
When whe see the towers falling i think our world went together..
Nobody gave a shit about Gen X, Boomer circle jerking was at its peak. This was the generation that had to deal with being the middle child, so to speak, between the Boomers and their hellspawn.
We were just some weird generational group that got crapped on by boomers for not being over the moon about the Beatles and Woodstock or hippie bullshit. We grew up with Reagan and Bush 1 and they seemed just fine to us.
We grew up with normal childhoods where we could go out and be free, and yet had privacy and time because the internet wasn't a thing yet. The information revolution came right as we entered the workforce which was a stroke of luck for us. Those of us who were compsci made bank. Personally I missed out because computers weren't my thing.
I'm pretty demoralized. Once my parents kick me out of their house I'll probably just starve to death. I've never worked a day in my life and don't even know how to get a job. I've felt nothing but anxiety ever since high school. Being dead would be a nice change.
You need to get yourself to a therapist.
>they sound educated
Only to uneducated people
Gen X fag here. First day of college, USSR still exists. Based professor says progression of politics and economics in USA closer to Marxist theory than the soviets ever got. "What you may be witnessing is the beginning of the decline of the American Empire." Of all the things learned in "higher education" that one stuck with me. Based professor was right.
Fuck you! I'm forty-two!
I saw them live, in Dallas in a small, club sized venue.
Same here. Mass media is a complete mind fuck. The internet is becoming absolute shit also. I began limiting my intake. Been actually buying old books and spending more time pursuing activities away from all forms of media.
Man, can one get nostalgic about a time one never experienced?
Here's the problem:
The very source you cite as interviewing "college educated folks" that don't sound like complete fucking morons was part of the downfall of culture; MTV.
That station promoted so much shit into the brain cells of youths on a 24/7 stream of shit and passed it off as culture and growth.
This interview has people talking about actual crap shock music (let's face it, Nirvana was just crap lyrics with grungy-but-decent sounds) as if they just sampled a most recent cigar from CAO or Indios Puros.
That in and of itself was subliminal acceptance. Put a well spoken faggot in front of a green screen and shrink-wrap it like a "news" program (these skits were actually called "MTV News") to give it some sort of validity, and you've subverted a portion of actual popular (and acceptable) culture (news programming) within 5 years.
Sorry, the subversion never stops, and MTV was part of the problem that introduced a no-win cultural situation for millennials to grow up in.
go work in retail. everyone gotta try it. You learn how to try and not hate all the shit thrown at you
>the intentional implosion of US to a globalized world empire
(((Based professors))) are always right.
"but I don't do that anymore"
They weren't fully consumed by consumer culture like kids are now. People had fun with each other and didn't try to find other /fa/ fags to fit in with who know nothing but what kind of shoes to buy. Kids these days only find fun in their useless smartphones or gadgets.
This Jew is pretty accurate. I remember immediately after 9/11 how things changed dramatically.
Me and my dudes were talking about it the following day because one of our friends had was going on holiday to America on the 13th and was totally shitting himself. Someone said that "things would be back to normal within two weeks" and even then I felt he was way off. 16 years later and I'm still waiting for any kind of normalcy to return.
It's like that thing of "keep the scandal buried for as long as possible and when it does come out, it'll have been too long for anyone to care anymore" and I felt exactly the same way about this. Bring in massively rule and law changes, keep them out of the press until it becomes the new normal and no one will bother, or can even remember, wanting to go back to how it was before.
They've done these things time and time and time again and every fucking time it never ever works because people start to get sick of having a little more of their freedom taken away from them every week. It baffles me why these seem people tell you to "learn from history" because they quite clearly never do themselves.
Did you watch the same video as me?
kek, so naive that is cute.