And how will Trump's foreign aid removal affect african politics? More war and starvation?
Blake Brooks
Rhodesia and the old South Africa are well known to Sup Forums, but you guys should look into Biafra. They were nogs, but at least they were based and many Western volunteers aided their insurrection.
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South Sudan will likely go the way of all other nascent African states; it will fucked for the foreseeable future, and it will be fucked a century from now, too.
At the immediate level, though, many more people will die. Only certain areas in the country's center have reached famine status, but the war's not going to end now and more are likely to follow. More than a million could die, yes, but there's nothing we can do.
Tbh, America supported the SPLM to fuck Sudan over, but it's not really all that interested in supporting an independent South Sudan with all the aid -- economic, humanitarian, educational, military... -- that it would require because that's too much work with little or no reward. I did hear French oil companies are interested, though, so we'll have to see.
Yes, (((they))) ousted based Jammeh, but he's living pretty well in Equatorial Guinea, so there isn't all that much to lament for him personally; the Gambia was, is and will continue to be shit-tier like most of the continent.
>When will Mugabe finally die? The fucker is obviously immortal. It doesn't really matter. After Ian Smith, the country's only chance at peace and relative prosperity was the Internal Settlement, but that went to hell.
>Will South Sudan become Rwanda 2.0? Unlikely. It will be a slow death, not a quick affair.
>Libya will be invaded again? Wtf? Libya was never "invaded." The West was careful to note this since there was no popular appetite for boots on the ground; it was limited to air strikes and ridiculous amounts of aids to the rebel, who showed their true (((moderate))) colors in Syria.
>And how will Trump's foreign aid removal affect african politics? More war and starvation? Ehh... at this moment, we can't really say. Trump hasn't shown a clear line in African affairs, and I doubt he's interested or well-versed in the dark continent's affairs. More of the same, i'd bet.
Cameron Walker
Thanks.
>Schools in Ethiopia funded by the exiled Turkish Cleric Gulen have been shut down and the schools have been turned over to the Turkish Government. This is interesting, but not surprising. Mogadishu has shown its fondness for Ankara in the past, and this is a good way to secure a bit more of that juicy aid. It also goes with Turkey's aim of being an important player in the Muslim world.
>President Farmaajo estimates it will take 20 years to fix Somalia >20 years lol. Heavy optimism to sound a bit less depressing in front of the media.
Ethan Sanchez
I've been predicting/hoping for him to croak for sometime. Every year he lives on making me look like a bitch. It is a powder keg of happenings waiting to happen. Robert Mugabe will die, triggering a bitter civil war between Grace his wife and Morgan Tsvangirai.
Blake Long
What will happen in Nigeria? They are fighting wars on Boko Haram, Fulani herdsman, Niger delta raiders and others, and they are putting themselves in serious debt from buying white SA mercenaries and weapons. Collapse imminent?
Joseph Ross
Some Biafra info which may be of interest to you Sup Forumsacks:
If he can get that oil drilling he'll have a chance but it sounds like just words right now. Somalia has already closed Gulen's schools and it looks like Ethiopia is also bending to Turkey's demands. I don't know how involved China is in Ethiopia but Turkey has close ties with Somalia. Kenya seems to be licking their wounds after they attempted to grab for Somalia's maritime coastline but lost the case in the International Court. It seems like there is a major re-alignment going on in East Africa.
Blake Brooks
Who else here still /Jammin4Jammeh/
Zachary James
>Morgan Tsvangirai Tbh, I doubt he would be able to mobilize sufficient forces against Mugabe's heir. No one rose in his favor at other moments, so I doubt they'll do it afterwards.
Continue posting, please.
>What will happen in Nigeria? I am by no means an expert on Africa; I just started this thread because I remembered the glory days under Jammeh.
That said, the economy gets shittier by the day and tensions will continue rising if Kanu is not released. No Biafra in sight, unfortunately; it's too big for a collapse to be allowed. We're not in the 60's anymore; decolonization is over. :'(
Nicholas Morgan
My knowledge extends to the Middle East and East Africa. I'm kinda clueless when it comes to other parts of Africa.
Dylan Richardson
It's dead, man. Jammeh's in a very, very comfortable exile, and it's more of the same for the Gambian people.
>If he can get that oil drilling he'll have a chance but it sounds like just words right now. 1) He won't get it. No one's going to jump into Somalia at this moment. Oil companies are hardly investing in developed countries like Canada or even stable, developing countries like Nigeria. What makes you think they'd invest in an unstable, shithole like Somalia?
>Somalia has already closed Gulen's schools and it looks like Ethiopia is also bending to Turkey's demands. Not surprising either. Ethiopia has a significant Muslim population; I don't know much about them, but the gov't wouldn't want to cause trouble and incite them.
>I don't know how involved China is in Ethiopia but Turkey has close ties with Somalia. Yes, Turkey is very involved with Somalia; they build lots of shit there, and they're quite popular. The Chinese are very, very, very involved in Ethiopia; they've built a ton of highways there, but it'll probably bite the Ethiopians back one day.
>Kenya seems to be licking their wounds after they attempted to grab for Somalia's maritime coastline but lost the case in the International Court. Kenya has internal issues, too. Their economy, for instance, has gone to shit; unemployment is incredibly high, and inflation isn't excellent either.
>It seems like there is a major re-alignment going on in East Africa Go on and expand.
Charles Peterson
I understand. Tbqh, I'm more interested in Europe and the Americas, but I have an occasional urge for exotic places, if you know what I mean.
Parker Allen
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David Richardson
Is an Islamic-christian separation more likely?
Jaxson Wood
More pics, please. Just spam them senpai
I think separation in general is unlikely, but I do think tensions will continue rising in view of the current situation with Kanu.
I just don't see how Biafran separatists could obtain the necessary brute force (not bs humanitarian or media support) to secede. This also applies to Christians as a whole.
The re-alignment has been gradually occurring over the past few months and has resulted in a weaker Kenya and a larger Chinese presence in Ethiopia and Djibouti. The Somali elections this February also broke precedence because there wasn't a bunch of corruption like the previous elections and Farmaajo didn't win by using clan politics and instead appealed to the populace. Somali Presidents would normally travel to Ethiopia but Farmaajo refused to do either and traveled to Saudi Arabia to ask them to lift the embargo on livestock. What we are basically seeing is a weaker Kenya which was normally a strong western ally. That oil drilling won't be done especially because Saudi Arabia doesn't want a competitor for it's oil and will go to massive lengths to defend it's oil monopoly.
I was thinking a radical Muslim separation up north from the regular Christians and Muslims in the south. When the funds run dry they won't be able to hold them off. Plus some people suspect Nigeria's neighbors are funding Boko Haram, if this is true Nigeria is fucked.
Jonathan Rivera
Interesting. We have a Somalia distancing itself from Ethiopia, a country with a significant Somali minority, in favor of Muslim countries, and we have a weaker Kenya that allows governments not as friendly to the West to "flourish," right?
Could this be an East African extension of the Middle Eastern trend of growing closer to the Kremlin? It's certainly an interesting phenomenon, although I'm not sure if it'll last.
Henry Morris
You forgot the pics!!
>I was thinking a radical Muslim separation up north from the regular Christians and Muslims in the south. I don't think so. Boko Haram might try, but it's not going to work out for them as anything more than what's going on atm.
>Plus some people suspect Nigeria's neighbors are funding Boko Haram, if this is true Nigeria is fucked. Nigeria's neighbors are shit-tier, too; they're even shittier than Nigeria. They can't challenge Nigeria. Even if they were "funding" Boko Haram, it would by no means mean Nigeria's fucked.
Gabriel Ramirez
don't let it die
Jayden Mitchell
Uninteresting continent, tbqh, senpai
Dominic Powell
>Nigeria's neighbors are shit-tier Basically this. Nigeria's neighbors are having major economical problems and they wouldn't be able to pull off a funding to Boko Haram. Somalia seems to be pushing towards Turkey while at the same time increasing relations with Saudi Arabia by cutting off ties with Russia. Ethiopia wants access to the ocean and has already begun constructing a railway to Djibouti City. Kenya's economy is basically failing and they won't be able to project as much anymore and their allies are already pulling out of AMISOM in Somalia. irinnews.org/analysis/2017/02/28/countdown-amisom-withdrawal-somalia-ready AMISOM is well known for having corrupt troops.In some cases they pulled out battles while they were raging and forced the Somali National Army to take heavy losses for them. Kenyan troops for AMISOM are already under scrutiny for burning down trees and selling them to the UAE. nation.co.ke/news/KDF-makes-money-on-illicit-charcoal-exports-from-Somalia/1056-3442062-dhar8ez/
Dominic Barnes
*I meant Iran not Russia.
Camden Gutierrez
absolutely not, lol. It's chaotic and poor, but it's not uninteresting at all.
Justin Moore
I don't see the fun in a whole continent that just can't win. That's just me, though
It's the only place now adays other than the ME where wars, genocides, and other interesting things like that still happen.
Zachary Flores
Fair enough. Thanks for passing by.
>Nigeria's neighbors are having major economical problems Exactly!! Even then, only Cameroon would be able to do anything deserving of a footnote in an unread newspaper; the rest are just too small or unstable, really.
>Somalia seems to be pushing towards Turkey while at the same time increasing relations with Saudi Arabia by cutting off ties with Iran. Makes sense. They're "coming home" to their Sunni brothers.
>Ethiopia wants access to the ocean and has already begun constructing a railway to Djibouti City. Also makes sense for both countries. Djibouti, which is only sustained by bases and Western militaries, is anxious to become a "poor man's Dubai," so to speak, while Ethiopia lost its coast along with Eritrea.
>Kenya's economy is basically failing and they won't be able to project as much anymore and their allies are already pulling out of AMISOM in Somalia. For a nonexpert, this is very interesting to hear. I'll look into it a bit more. Thanks.
> Zimbabwe: Mugabe 'Won't Surrender Power to Anyone, Not Even to His Wife Grace' > His Wife Grace I am becoming increasingly sure that if Africans started to "get" ironic humor (And dubbs praise kek) a lot of problems would start to resolve themselves.