Hello leftists. This is a general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
so what valuable service would you provide to your communist utopia desu?
Lincoln Myers
Have you ever worked with the homeless/underclass? Most of them would let a house go to complete shit within a month; they are destitute for a reason and it's not capitalism.
Hudson Hernandez
Marx had a fundamentally flawed understanding of humanity.
>You should own the things you create, no matter what, even if you didn't own the materials used to make it. Good luck getting materials, then.
Isaiah Ortiz
If you don't like selling your labour, you are free to fund your own company, or have a farm and live on it.
Wyatt Martinez
>waiting for marxists to come up with a legit way to implement their incredibly naive ideology without involving bloodshed or slavery
Ian Harris
>that pic
>mfw they unironically use "cuckoldry" as something they're against and at the same time support Marx and Engels who literally advocated for abolition of the family, marriage and monogamy itself
Owen Rivera
>Bait General
Easton Perry
The ruling class doesnt fear niggersThey are dumb and good slaves, and thats why they force racemixing with the most violent race, blacks and whites cant work together because niggers dont work at all
Jayden Stewart
What the fuck is this retarded shit? So I have spare clothes so I must give them to everyone else? Why dont you start with your own instead of advocating others give their stuff for free
Julian Gonzalez
Can't tell if OP is retarded of if this is bait.
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Brandon Rodriguez
Hidden.
Aaron Roberts
>gave you >gave
Nicholas Price
The amount of work put into a product means jack shit
Oliver Turner
Communism works, that is to say is implemented, in shithole countries because it promises a complete utopia. Instead they always end up being worse than the actual shithole they were trying to drag themselves out of. The reason it doesn't work in first world countries (the countries Marx wanted them to be carried out in because Capitalist countries actually have money) is because people aren't trying to escape the daily meal of turnip soup. That's why Marxists have been trying to subvert the west for the last 60 or so years. See the irony is that Communism doesn't work without money and where does the money come from to redistribute? Capitalism. Just for the record I'm much more of a National Socialist where ideology and economics are concern, but if my only choices are dying as a fat old man or dying by the side of the road after not having enough sustenance by eating grass. I have no option, but to choose the lesser of two evils.
tl;dr this is an 18+ website. Gas yourself as soon as possible.
Gabriel Green
bumpity
Landon Reyes
>he buys into the socialism meme
Julian Reyes
>if you think your boss is entitled to your wife because he gave her the job you use to support her
Nobody thinks like this.
>if you think your boss is entitled to what you create because he gave you the tools and raw materials
He also gave you remuneration for your labour, which you agreed to as set out in an employment contract that you agreed to and signed before you began your work.
>thinking you own the finished product simply because you made it, despite your employer providing the raw materials, facilities, tools and monetary compensation for your labour
This is why I can't take communists seriously.
Cameron Hernandez
Good goy, keep giving power to the government.
Lucas Stewart
You don't even try to hide this shit anymore. What's the matter? Not enough browser on your shitty board so you need to shill here?
Josiah Fisher
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Zachary Wright
Communism Final Stage: Starvation.
Joseph Phillips
My boss doesn't "give" me a job. He gives me money in return for a product or service that I provide for him.
My boss is not "entitled" to my product, he purchased it. If the cost of the purchase was him giving me the tools and raw materials I need to make and sell product to other people, then that is my perogative, cuck.
Looks like another "commies don't grasp basic capitalism" thread.
Bentley Brown
There isn't enough transhumanists for our own thread so I'm crashing here
David Hall
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Kayden Bailey
underated
William Hall
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Josiah Adams
Socialism will prevent !
Caleb Jenkins
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Xavier Thompson
This. Also the State can send the special police to break down your door and have "their fair share" of your wife, cause you hoarded a few extra grains this month.
Julian Long
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Connor Murphy
May saint Mccarthy ensure from above that you die soon
Sebastian King
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Juan Nelson
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Juan Russell
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Asher Bailey
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Jayden Foster
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Oliver Jones
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Kayden James
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Zachary Bell
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Oliver Diaz
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Dylan Anderson
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Jack Sanchez
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Owen Hill
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Nicholas Lewis
FUCKING KEK
Aaron Brown
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Camden Turner
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Jackson Morales
That's all the Communist/Socialist themed ones I have, but I can dump more if people are interested?
Certainly better discussion than a Lefty/pol/ thread.
Logan Gonzalez
Nice ones user ; )
Lucas Campbell
Why did you bump the thread?
Nicholas Fisher
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Christopher Smith
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. What a massively retarded ideology it must be to state that you won't get to enjoy yourself, and that if you try to work harder to get the means to enjoy yourself it will just go to somebody else.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
Communism is an ideology of totalitarian psychopaths and dumbfuck sociology majors.
Benjamin Thomas
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Asher Hughes
Wow, that picture is the most retarded, autistic bullshit I've ever read.
To continue the analogy, your boss doesn't get to fuck your wife because the salary you earned to support her is YOURS, as part of the contract you signed. You agreed to give the labor you're capable of performing with the executive's equipment, in exchange for the money he pays you.
There is nothing forcing you to accept any employment contract. There is no one who will force you to work for the capitalist. That's Communism you're thinking of.
Furthermore, the excess value is kept by the capitalist because he's the one who took the fucking risk. Even if the company's stocks are down, you still get paid for the work you put in; not so for executives. You want to reap the reward? Go take a risk. Make your own fucking company.
Seriously, who dropped all you fuckwits on your heads as babies?
Jack Robinson
>without the concept of value an economy is intrinsically impossible >you cannot economy without knowing the social value of things Even though marxism can be this easily objectivelly debunked, people still choose to believe that. It's the result of people not knowing how to cope with nihilism. They don't believe they can define things as true or false, they don't believe they can have beliefs themselves, they just follow whatever it makes them feel good.
Communism is not an objective definition of a system of production, it's not philosophy, and it's not economics. It's just the result of people not sorting themselves out.
Wyatt Cook
Hi comrades
Jackson Gray
You faggots seriously need to go back to chancerchan where you belong
Connor Turner
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Kevin Baker
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Mason Lopez
>private property gets abolished >production instantly becomes chaotically insane >people took down bells and tools to melt into useless steel in communist China >people teared wood walls apart to use as firewood in USSR The most optimistic expectation for a true communist society is an agrarian subsistence dictatorship that kills less than 1/10 of its population in the transitional phase.
Lincoln Bailey
>there are actual Sup Forums users who actually think communism can work
Angel Wood
Holy fuck the left's meme game is weak.
Wyatt Lee
>Sup Forums users
It's leftypol. Specially the retarded Spanish guy with nothing better to do.
Sebastian Collins
>Communism General exists >Communists exist
Cooper Williams
> thinking you can logically stop when you start tearing down hierarchies
Marx is the patron saint of the SJW.
Aiden Campbell
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Samuel Brown
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Asher Cox
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Kayden Walker
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
damn just by your image, i can tell youre retarded.
>>what is voluntary contract?
communism is literally a joke, i cant believe i replied to this shit thread
Lincoln Lee
Is this where Obamaleaf came from?
Christopher Wood
Why is there always a link between Communism and Jews?
Alexander Lopez
I love capitalism. It keeps leeches at the bottom, and working men at the top. Welfare without volunteerism is theft. Men are entitled to their labor. The state should not hold any power but to ensure that men have the power to rule themselves. And to defend those who live in the state.
Jonathan Hernandez
There are lots of Jews in Southeast Asia, yeah.
Michael Moore
Jews literally created it out of an autistic fit of rage at its own people. Its hard recationallism to the massive greed the jewish leadership has. But in favor of the right as opposed to left.
Bentley Mitchell
More so the governments of Asia took communism as a power piece to ensure its rule over large numbers of people. To make them feel that they have freedom in when is essence they do not.
Brody Scott
>what you create Your boss provided the tools. Your boss provided the factory. Your boss trained your dumb ass. As a worker in a population of hundreds, you create a fraction of anything of value. Your boss negotiates the supply chain to get it to market. He negotiates with the middle men, the investors, the banks who handled the loans he used to build the factory. His good reputation made the loans possible in the first place. BUT ALL THIS IS INVISIBLE TO YOU, BECAUSE YOU ARE A NEET WHO ONLY KNOWS MEMES N SHEEEEIT.
Lucas Diaz
check my numeros
Joseph Phillips
>ifunny
Adam Rogers
>jews are not related to asian communism >yes it is not related but my presupposition of jews-communism link is still valid Uneducatable trash you are.
Dylan Hughes
Eternal reminder that this is what leftists actually think.
Angel Anderson
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Nolan Foster
>There are lots of Jews in Southeast Asia, yeah. Pure coincidence.
If you think some random lazy arse is entitled to your hard earned money, tools and raw materials, you are a commiecuck.
Joshua Howard
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Benjamin Walker
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Michael Long
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Jason Miller
Exactly correct. And if he where intelligent to know what he would be a boss instead of a slave to one, or the system the weak willed communist created. I like how they delusion themselves that in a socialist paradise they would be free of work getting their autismbux. When in reality they would either be in the factory for 14 hours a day or shot dead in the street for not providing to the state.
