Quick rundown on French Politics

Quick rundown on French Politics

In less than 2 months, France is going to elect a new president. It's a two turn election: we pick two people in the first turn and them choose between them in the second. It's a very important election because the current president, Francois Hollande, is highly impopular (mostly because his communication team is the worst in the world) and, for the first time, the two main parties are LOSING in polls. According to them we have:

> Marine Le Pen (Front National)
Nationalist right, she's the leader in polls but only for the first turn. She loses against everyone in second turn. Her party has a long tradition of racism and antisemitism she wants to remove, she focus on being anti-europe, anti-immigration and protectionist economically.

> Emmanuel Macron
Second for the first turn, he's also a newcomer and has no real party with him. Former minister of economy under Hollande, he left because he wasn't socialist enough. Now he's pretty much center and very opportunistic. Former Rothshield banker, married to a woman 20 years older than him.

> François Fillon (Les Républicains)
He won the primary election in the main right wing party and the presidential was pretty much in the bag for him but a huge corruption scandal has destroy him since he claimed just before that to be a paragon of virtue. Many in his own camp are jumping ships but he refuse to give up. He's still 3rd and tends to go up when medias get tired to speak about his scandal. He's a globalist and wants a really minimal state.

> Benoit Hamon (Socialist)
More socialist than Hollande, he's a young politician trying to make people forget about the current president. He's way too quiet and nobody talks about him while most believe anyone from the socialist party is doomed anyway. He wants universal revenue

> Jean-Luc Mélenchon
Extreme left candidate, he hates medias and pretty much everyone. He likes internet and used holograms in meetings. He wants to raise minimal wages.

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017#Opinion_polls_for_the_first_round_of_voting
twitter.com/Lesquen2017/status/837754608198029312
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

As of today:
> Macron: 26%
> LePen: 24.8%
> Fillon: 19%
> Hamon: 14%
> Mélenchon: 9%

They even have polls including Juppé, imagine the accuracy...

And it changes a lot everyday.

But it shows one thing: everything is possible. That's the most open election we ever had during the fifth republic.

> Tfw Sylvain Durif is not a candidate

Also to all Le Pen supporters, what do you really want to see her do if she gets elected?

>what do you really want to see her do if she gets elected?
resign

It shows one thing: polls are bullshit. The projections for the second round are just laughable, no one knows who they will vote for.

>The projections for the second round are just laughable, no one knows who they will vote for.
Not for LePen

Well okay, then who would you vote for, and why?

If you're not going to vote, then why?

I have decide to wait for the last week and see if Hamon as a real chance. If he does I will vote for him, if he doesn't I will vote Macron despite knowing full well he's full of shit. But Fillon has really dangerous ideas and LePen is LePen.

Gas the degenerate that you are.

What happens immigration-wise if a candidate other than Le Pen wins?

Nothing. Nobody claims he wants MORE immigrants and pretty much everyone wants to stay around the 200000 per year figure.

Is a secession from the EU feasible?

I'm not sure Engie fonctionnaires would allow such a use for gas

Why are you rooting for Hamon in particular? Something in his program or just the feeling you have?

Her voters are "only" 70% sure to vote for her, and it's for the first round. Making polls based on such figure is hilarious.

wtf man, are you masochistic?

Not counting the regroupement familial (around 40k/year).

If LePen gets elected we will probably get a vote about that.

But honestly, no.

Not a feeling, I loathe the guy. I'm voting mostly for the party. I don't agree with his personal politicies (universal income...) but I like the idea of a socialist party going a bit more left.

>wtf man, are you masochistic?
No. Are you ?

France continues to die. Le Pen is literally their only hope but she's probably going to lose and has a lot of baggage
>The Russian meme (she has connections to Russian banks, she claims this is because no French banks would fund her, I can't read French well enough to ascertain which is true [can't understand it at all when spoken tbqh])
>Her dad (uncle? I forget) is Literally Hitler: Actually Hitler Edition
>All the parties left of hers will vote for whoever she ends up going against

I haven't paid attention to the French polls for like a month but the last time I checked the only way she has a chance is if the other right and centre-right candidates vote split so much that she ends up going up against the Socialist faggot, and even then it's questionable whether many of the Republicans will vote for her over him

>if the socialist candidate doesn't get in I'm voting for the globalist shill!

l u r k
m o r e

>Macron supports the open-door policy toward immigrants and refugees pursued by Angela Merkel in Germany.
>Regarding asylum policy, he believes "the [...] period of review should be considerably shortened"
>“We have entered a world of great migrations and we will have more and more of it [migration]”

Le Pen wants to close the door on them.

Immigration is an important issue in this election. Wouldn't it be completely absurd for each candidate to have the exact same platform? By pretending it's not an issue, you seek to shut down its discussion.

Yes. It's just a matter of time anyway.

>has a lot of baggage
I don't give a fuck about baggage, her policies are pants on head retarded.

Macron might be the most immigrant oriented candidate, it's true. But he said nothing specific.

All candidates names end with -on except for Le Pen.

Coincidence? I think not!

>I'm voting mostly for the party

Dude.

Don't you feel tired of being betrayed by a caste of notables that go hand in hand with UMP?

I mean, you're entitled to your right of being a leftie, but it's your trust in the PS that I can't understand, why not Melenchon for exemple?
Do you think he's too much of a leftie? He's a former socialist after all.

Name everything you don't like in France, Macron will just make it worse.

C'est qui ces noms de Juifs en "on" ?

Lepen numero 1, les autres sont des Juifs Marxistes qui veulent massacrer l'Europe et leurs electeurs. Après avoir fait le Communisme et 150 Millions de morts en face.

>LePen is LePen
Holy shit, are you seriously voting for whoever the medias tell you to? Don't you realize you submissive sheeps are being manipulated?

>>>Gas chamber

>Name everything you don't like in France
But I like France

>et le roi de cons sur son trône, il est français ça j'en suis sûr

what did he mean by this

>are you seriously voting for whoever the medias tell you to?
Medias are hugely pushing LePen by talking about her every living second of every day.

I don't vote LePen because her program is extremely bad and populistic.

I want Frexit to happen before the Schulz era.

>Implying the French left is ever not retarded

Shouldn't you be burning some cars in solidarity with your Arab brothers, user? Man the barricades hurr durr, time to burn everything down.

>Guys we're poor! Everything sucks, France has too much bureaucracy!
>Oh I know, the solution is more bureaucracy, more welfare, more cheap labour!

Your country simultaneously has the worst left wing and best right wing in the world, je ne comprends pas!

Même les Lepenistes ?

> Suggests that peoples that doesn't share his views should all be gassed, so only peoples that would think and act like him are left.

> Calls others sheeps

Consanguin/10

>>Guys we're poor! Everything sucks, France has too much bureaucracy!
But that's what the right wing says. I'm sick and tired of idiots who can only complains.

Lepenistes are just people who likes to complain and whine. That's a very french attitude, I'll give them that.

The problem are their solutions. It's just more problems.

In this case why are you even interested by politics?

>believing this bullshit

Top kek

What do you suggest then? I'm genuinely interested.

(((Macron))) will win

Because half of the actual politics (right wing) want to make drastic changes that will make things awful for everyone.

The other half might do it anyway (especially Macron) but you have actually hope they won't.

its honor to live at the same time as marine le pen

but there are things you don't like and want to change, yes?

>dude politics lmao

(((implying))) (((they))) are not (((all))) under the same (((rule))).

Sup Forums is logical, so no anti-FN pussies allowed here.

Like I said, other fake parties are Jews trying to genocide France. Any post outside this topic is obviously a weak palish bitch tired of living.

Look. Every single parasite of pic are working together against Le Pen because they want to keep you enslaved. What do you know about her program anyway? We need our people to work in a non-mutually destructive way. Lurk more faggot.

That's not the average of the past few polls?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017#Opinion_polls_for_the_first_round_of_voting

>What do you suggest then?
About what ? Who to vote for ? For the guy who doesn't want to break the whole society because he has suddenly decide it's bad.

What I want to change ? I don't want any big change. I want unemployment and inegalities to be reduced, I want a better french economy, research and education. I want more international influence.

This doesn't need "change", it needs smart policies and the strengh to build a real Europe.

>France is fine

lel okay. /r/ that image of a dog sitting in a burning house saying everything is alright.

>The problem are their solutions. It's just more problems.

kek

Stop watching the electric jew and parrot their meme.

>"The FN ask good questions but give bad solution"

Non et ta gueule sale rature de merde. Des que ça passe, on massacre les sales consanguins pd comme toi.

>supposedly isn't supported by the majority of the population (well that what the left claim)
>populistic

You do not understand the word you're using

>I want more international influence.
Top kek, a globalist. On the grand scheme, France is absolutely powerless on the world stage and will stay so in the future.

You're just muddying the waters. Macron is literally a Globalist shill and someone (formerly??) on the Rothschild payroll.

None of the other candidates are anywhere near that level of bluepill.

>Sup Forums is logical
>the jews are trying to genocide France

choose only one

>The other half might do it anyway (especially Macron) but you have actually hope they won't.
>hope

That's your first election, right? With that spirit, prepare for a long life of anal destruction.

And? Everyone is working against Trump yet he still prevails.

When you have retards of this caliber in your side, don't you actually ever pause and ask yourself "are we the baddies ?"

>> Macron: 26%
There's no chance in earth that rothschild faggot poll at more than 10%, it's literally fake polls by (((them))) to boost their choosen one
Have you seen his meeting ? the dude is completely alone beside his payed intermittents du spectacle

>That's your first election, right?
Not at all, 1986 here. The fact is I will not vote for someone who actually SAID he will do something I'm against (Fillon, LePen). I might be A LOT suspicious of Macron but he hasn't actually SAID it. I would vote PS but since they're losing so bad, I'm considering Macron.

this. If you truly want more international "influence", you will have to share France with, not Europe, but north Africa and french speaking sub Sahara african countries. A 56% whites US style will happen in less than 50 years. Be careful what you wish for.

We're operating on the assumption that jews are secretly working on their globalist schemes to destroy the West and from there build up our arguments. So from within our system, we're logical people.
Not a lot of things are absolute so different people work with different logical systems and assumptions.

Not gonna lie, former Le Pen supporter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Marine crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this socialist destroy our economy. I'm voting for Fillon!

> T. Enzo 18 y/o and more edgy than ever

And yet Le Pen supporters wonder why peoples are so reluctant to join them.

I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY

Or maybe it's because the party used to be a right-wing extremist one in a country that is socialist?

We're angry because retards like you shouldn't have the right to vote. You doomed us all.

Aren't you forgetting someone?

Le Pen gets about 40% of the vote against Macron which is already historic. A few more years of nothing but terrorist attacks and niggerfication should bring that value up to 50%.

> We're angry

and that gives you the right to threaten on a imageboard? Are you a nigger?

I don't think so Germanbro, you see many would've joined even if Le Pen father was still the leader.

No, their main flaw is that 10% of their elector base is retarded as fuck and most of the normies can't get over it, and side with stupid uncle Pierre the drunkard.

Henry de Lesquen just withdrew from the race and is now backing Fillon.

Why?

twitter.com/Lesquen2017/status/837754608198029312

no

Wow, people like you exist for real? You're voting for someone because you don't know what he plans to do? T'es un malade Bob!
In a previous post you said you want less inequality, but migrants live in ghettos and mondialism plead for cheaper jobs. Guess who wants more migrants and more mondialism...

>No, their main flaw is that 10% of their elector base is retarded as fuck and most of the normies can't get over it, and side with stupid uncle Pierre the drunkard.
20% of any kind of animal is retarded and lazy as fuck. That's a natural thing amongst almost all live forms inhabiting earth.
All it means is that Le Pen is getting approval from 40% or more of the population which is enourmous but not quite enough to win against a candidate that collects all other parties behind himself.

>more years of nothing but terrorist attacks and niggerfication should bring that value up to 50%.
Why do you think terror attacks benefits to LePen ?

Et pourquoi pas? C'est le seul qui parle de rémigration.

Hans gets it. This election cycle is looking to be pretty fucking screwed but it just means things have to keep getting worse before they get better.

It seems to me that Le Pen is a name that carries too much baggage and FN would be better off finding a new candidate with a fresh and different charisma.

Because it shows that what Islam really is and the horrors of continued immigration. It's fine if you don't believe that though. Better for us actually.
Maybe, but any kind of nominee of the FN will face the same problems she did.

"Jeune et dynamique."

>anti-Europe

Europe is not fucking EU. EU is just political creation.

Didnt know how cucked french people are.

This thread explained everything

>You're voting for someone because you don't know what he plans to do?
No I know but I also know people don't always do what they say during campaign... but it's still better for voting directly for what you doesn't want.

> Migrants are poor
Not all of them and they don't have to stay poor. Also please realise those people don't seize to exists just because you don't let them in. My solution to immigration is to help shit countries to fix their problems.

I don't want MORE immigration, I just want enough to keep the population stable. And we already have a "migrant" population and they're not leaving so I'd rather see someone talking about what he'll do about it. The obvious answer is education and Macron is the only one (between him, Fillon and LePen) who wants to help education and not destroy it (Fillon want less teacher less payed and LePen hates teachers)

>20% of any kind of animal is retarded and lazy as fuck.

Well I learned something

> All it means is that Le Pen is getting approval from 40%

No one's debating that, i'm just saying, to all those that don't know france very well, the it's not more than 40% only because the FN is saw a the party of inbreds, cucks and frustrated old ladies.

This may or may not be true, but it's just the way it is.

And before you say that i'm rooting for someone, be advised that I just want to see the world burn and dga single f

> Screencaptcha: Toulon roadsign

My point exactly

Actually this won't help. FN is hated as a whole after decades of propaganda from the media. For example voting against Le Pen as a matter of principle such as ((())) is common here.

Have any of these 5 candidates taken the Bogpill?

Is there such a thing as a Teflon candidate in France? Or is it so easy to get any disinfo malarkey to stick on them that anyone is just going to spill spaghetti at the drop of a hat?

Need a fierce and defiant attitude if you want to fight for your constituents.

France is 82% white and already at 40% right-wing. It took the US to become a 60% white country to just barely edge it out for Trump and Canada and Australia are both only 72 and 74% white respectively yet both countries are pretty left-wing and pro-immigration.
>No one's debating that, i'm just saying, to all those that don't know france very well, the it's not more than 40% only because the FN is saw a the party of inbreds, cucks and frustrated old ladies.
It's the only right-wing party your country has and any other one would just end up splitting the right-wing vote in the first round.
>And before you say that i'm rooting for someone, be advised that I just want to see the world burn and dga single f
I want to burn the world and not get burned.

Remember, Hillary Clinton had a 98 percent chance of winning.

Are there, dare I say it, an utter lack of /our guy/ in French politics?

Creating false media news on candidates is pretty easy to do in any part of the world, even in France. But I guess the FN constituents are already immunized to that.

Le Pen is good enough. We're not playing the puritan game at such a crucial time, that field is left open for the lefties like the Democrats or the Labour Party in GB.

You quoted the wrong user pal and

> I want to burn the world and not get burned.

Isn't that a common personnality trait in Germany?

>He's a globalist and wants a really minimal state.
How does this work?
Also bump, thanks for quick rundown.

>Worlds
Check spelling before memeing, faggot

>see if Hamon as a real chance. If he does I will vote for him, if he doesn't I will vote Macron
Je comprends mieux tes réponses maintenant. T"es champion du monde des cons.

Scandals only make FN supporters stronger.

>Isn't that a common personnality trait in Germany?

No, we want people to burn but the world to be preserved so we can move in.

Oh yeah I forgot to quote you.
>Isn't that a common personnality trait in Germany?
There's an awful lotta cucks around now so I don't know.
You mean more determined? We've seen it happening with Trump supporters but I guess that's what happens when you fuck around with them long enough.

>two-round system
>Le Pen will win the first round
>Most likely will lose second round.
The best outcome is for a weak far left candidate to win the first round. So that Le Pen have an easier time in the second round.

Mah! Look I posted it again!!

>we want to burn the people that burn the world so we can preserve life
FTFY