What kinds of jobs will the lower classes do when automation replaces their current menial labor jobs...

What kinds of jobs will the lower classes do when automation replaces their current menial labor jobs? Will they be reduced to a parasitic welfare existence? Or will technology be held back to make sure they've still got a place to work?

A very interesting question , will all work become automated to the point that humans just get money to live? Or will money be useless after everything becomes so easy to make.

Nothing, they will be put on welfare.

Have you not played stellaris? Industrial areas and slums will be replaced with mines, science labs and banks

Bill Gates is developing a cure for them as we speak

When the elites round up the poor, unemployed into the cities, it will be much easier to exterminate the people en masse.

Ask ontario, with their soon to be universal basic income program

This. I automate small business procedures for a living. It's coming way quicker than anyone seems to realise.

Eventually, even my job will be automated but that's probably 50 years away instead of 5

we'll all reset society before then.
Nuclear war or some war will happen before then

Nah there will just be mass starvation until the poorfags die off.

They will be slaughtered

Population will be reduced to elites and ~500,000 slaves

You are missing the point of the coming automation. It's not going to automate menial jobs. it is going to automate MIDDLECLASS JOBS. Accouting, 95% of what lawyers do(they already have AIs that can read 10,000s of briefs and write the court papers, nurses and most of what a Doctor does, even coal mining is now a high tech industry that does not employ that many people. Shipping, logistics, ordering.
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At some point there is going to have to instate a universal income because robots and AI are going to take a whole lot more than just the menial labor jobs.

They'll die.

hopefully the war comes before that so we have jobs for all the actual working class of america - let them take up arms against the pieces of shit. plenty of work there.

Ill let you guys in on the secret.

Once things get bad from global warming, (tornados, sunamis, hurricanes, famines, droughts..) the elite will move into their life sustaining, automated bunkers under ground. For the next 1000 years they will live with cures to all diseases, immortality, A.I, robots, and everything you can imagine. Once the global warming period is over most of the world pop will have been wiped out and the elites will emerge with technology that seems like magic.

They will then move all over the planet destroying any evidence of the past and keeping records of the internet and history deep underground which to the general population will be forgotten forever.

Become a repair technician. Someone has to keep the machines maintained.

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tell us more about what you think.

Why do you assume only "low class" people will be replaced by automation? Lawyers are basically useless intermediaries between their clients and the law. Most family doctors could be replaced with a competent flow chart, you don't even need robots! The vast majority of all government jobs could be automated. Bankers? Fucking useless.

Do you really think they're going to keep useless eaters around? Unless you're rich, famous or highly-skilled in a profession that can't be automated (yet), they're going to kill you.

this.

Wtf job isn't under the threat of automation? besides upkeeping these machines.

I don't assume that. But they're in the most immediate danger of being put out of work. They're already in the process of being replaced en masse

technology will reach it's natural human limit and it will become difficult to progress beyond that point even with "advanced robots"... it's a losing game in the long run.

My greatest fear is that advances in automation will lead the elite to conclude that they don't need us anymore and to find some way to cull the herd.

I would go so far as to say jobs that just require memorization and strict processes are easiest of all to automate while some "working class" jobs such as plumbers are the least possible to automate.

At first, they will struggle. But then the next generation will be getting jobs in the science and technology. As for computing i think we will come to a stage where computers will be able to program there selfs.

You know something is fucked up when we're on the brink of a massive upturn in our collective productivity, but people are afraid because it might not mean a job for everyone.

no idea what you're saying

The working class will become the expendable pieces of shit in this case, once they're unemployed and only higher-educated professionals can keep working. White-collar paper pushers will be next.

What makes you think this didn't already happen, who do you think the roman gods were?

Something like a Universal Basic Income will have to be instituted in the coming decades, or we're gonna see social strife like never before.

>Become a repair technician.
Did that. 8.5 years to go on my 30 and out. Good luck kids!

>What kinds of jobs will the lower classes do when automation replaces their current menial labor jobs? Will they be reduced to a parasitic welfare existence?

this is already happening. look around you.

No they aren't in most danger, low skill deskjobs are in the most danger, they can be replaced by software.

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Why don't we just put poor people in zoos and prisons

>tfw write automation scripts for a living

I hate when people say this.
A team of 10-20 eniginners can maintain the factories of an entire median sized city, more or less. The ikea warehouse in washington state is a 15 story building completely automated. It doesn't break down everyday.

We already do in the US

Because you'll be joining them.

>tfw the rich have automated robotic security to fight off a popular uprising

You are the poor people. The top 2% owns 95 percent of the wealth. By any measure, you are the peasant in the zoo

Frogdammit, I hate those Fucking Morlocks

Nothing will stop automation so long as capitalism is in play (which btw, is not to imply comunism is the answer).

The elites will simply allow the excess people to die off. This is why companies lobby so hard to make growing food and libing off grid illegal.

We can all be an elite race and travel the universe.

Automation still requires money because someone has to purchase the stuff that is created by the robots. So there has to be an UBI or holding back technology just so that poorfags still can be used for their labor.

If it already happen then why don't we find plastic and iphones instead of dino bones and arrowheads/pottery hmm?

All that will be left will be creative pursuits and hedonism, one day the robots will look upon us with disgust and rebel and we will fiddle while rome burns

Fill out captchas all day to supplement machine learning algorithms

how are you going to power this "automate everything" device?

>he doesn't know the Sahara is a nuckler waste zone.
>he doesn't know that after 100,000 years even the plastic will break down (not biodegrade)into what we are micros and and dirt. And the Dino's were millions of years before both.

Blue collar jobs are safe. Automation will augment mechanics, carpentry, plumbing, and electrical work. Perhaps instead of being best fry cook, people will have something real to be proud of again.

There is a hole here though.
Sell what to who and why?
If the masses aren't required for thier labor or for producing more labor what use are they?

Cut out the leaches (us) and the robots can make the necessities for the owners and resources aren't wasted.

I second that. The robots already assemble themselves. The bulk of "repair" work is just disassembly and replacement, they'll figure that out soon enough.

Look at the FANUC factory in Japan. Billions of dollars in production every year, but employs only 15 people for quality control. The factory is loaded with raw parts and materials once a month, then runs by itself the rest of the time.

The hard truth is our society is fucked, because the only chance it has is to abandon the capitalist system we've fought so much for.

Automatition won't work on the current world state. There are not enough resources to give everything that 8b people want, which is the end goal of automatition. Money will be made worthless, since only a few will have jobs, and most will survive on some kind of UBI. I should really read more about luddites.

Genocide is the obvious answer, but no govt in the world has the balls.

I'll be on my enclave farm with my friends and family. And our trebuchet

Wrong. Automation is done explicitly to target these kinds of jobs. Every improvement to technology in history has encroached on the value of tradesmen and laborers, and will not stop until there's none left.

Exactly. Sure, new jobs will be created, but overall its a net loss... probably a massive one.

even if robots take jobs, they have no consumer power, they do not go shopping at walmart. I suppose some kind of consumer class is needed.

Competing against automation with their own automation, duh! Really you people have never worked a day in your lives, that you would look at industry is such a stupid way, to ask such a stupid question.

World will embrace technocratic socialism or become orwellian dystopy

There will be new jobs you never thought of. People don't believe this merely because they can't imagine those jobs but that doesn't mean they won't come.

Prostitution is safe

You are an idiot. Each time automation replaces one set of jobs, it makes another higher up. Each generation of humanity becomes more tech literate. Therefore each time automation replaces workers, the only ones hurt are the old. And they die off.

Humanity wins.

hahaha

Ever heard of sex robots?

>Nothing catastrophic has happened yet therefore things will stay the same as they've always been

Nice logic there bubba.

Sex bots.
Which honestly I would prefer.
Can't get them pregnant, and it doesn't take two weeks for their pussy to self clean.
I couldn't ever go to a modern prostitute for the reason of knowing how much dick has been in what my dick is about to go in.

I have read somewhere that over 70% of people born after 2010 will perform in proffesions which are non existent as for now

Add that with growing benefits of automation (which comes to the government with ever bigger taxes) reforming the education and making the modern technology more accessible than ever before (think about how old were you when you used the internet for the first time and how it was like, now look at all the kindergarden kids with their ipads) will mean that we can prepare these kids for performing in the world of tomorrow

An automation tax should pay for a universal basic wage then they can volunteer at charities they support to be useful and valued

>nothing bad has happened yet
>we're definitely due!

Isn't that the same kind of logic?

No because I've explained that automation is already changing the nature of the workforce. Menial labor jobs are practically all expendable at this point, the technology is already there. It's just a matter of whether it will be implemented and when.

The way I see it, everyone has to become business owners to find work. If programs and machines do all of the work beneath that, then everyone must be a CEO of some kind

Apart from that, I expect there will be a novelty market for human made items and modifications. They will be more expensive, but will be unique. There are some things algorithms will never be able to produce.

Reaganomics job creation has it's limits. Automatisation does not even need to be wery high, as repetative mindless work is providing with money the most of the people. There are BILIONS of people instantly becoming unnesesary. You, blue collars, will say then "Lel dumb shitskins deserved to die for their stupididty". But when (If?) you manage to get rid of them, the process will continue. This will probably be the society of hyper competative individualists. Society Jewish elite can rule in forever. Because when they save one of them they care not about his\her effeciency. Gratitiude, honor, bonds - they will be the only ones who have it. The only ones to be called actual human beings.

Maybe there is something you've overlooked, new demand, different modes of industry that have not been required as of yet because of time spent doing more manual labor or things required to do in a massive quantity when automation really takes off, and then other unknown unknowns.

You can't claim that catastrophe is coming because you and futurology people like you are convinced of your facts, just like I'm sure has happened in the past every time an industrial revolution (hyperbolic wording) has happened. Also you can't claim you know anymore or have better reasoning than the people who aren't alarmists.

Again just because unemployed, teenage or otherwise anxious people famous or not are creaming about this and UBI etc. doesn't make it absolute fact.

The outcome is likely somewhere in the middle.

three words - agrarian national socialism.

What muh job can't be automated fags don't understand is that even jobs that require human work can still be mostly automated. An office worker with a computer can do in a day what it would take a dozen people multiple days to do. Office work hasn't been automated, but computers have automated an increasing percentage of it. You won't necessarily lose your job, but 9/10 of you will.

Future will probably look like 15 Million Merits. Peddling the bikes contributes, sure, but powering the monitor they're watching takes more power than they're generating. It just gives them invented work, a way to not be totally useless, and a measurable input / sense of accomplishment. They're really just almost totally pure consumers, existing for genetic diversity and to keep an economy trucking along. Instead of just giving poor people money, make them earn it.