How civilized was your area in 1821?

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muslim middle east: half civilized
most of africa: barbarous
northwestern usa + most of canada: savage

>Christianization = civilization
Nice meme

Christianisation brought literacy to northern Europe. You are a faggot.

100% savage

>Enlightened

You mean raped and destroyed by a magic sandnigger in space, a religion that does not belong here, and we do not belong to it. Försök igen ditt dumma jävla helvete.

>enlightened

what?

>something improved a bunch of snow niggers, therefore something can ONLY be improved by that method
Nice meme. Any map that shows South America as more civilized than China, Japan, Korea, or India is retarded.

>1821
>enlightened
>current year
>SAVAGE

Such progress, I'm so glad we now live in a socialist society free of hate.

Savage because of all the "unsubdued Indians" in Arizona

On the border of Enlightened and Half-Civilized.

Not much has changed, i see.

1821 is right after independence, still heavily european culture, if europe is enlightened, then we would be civilized at worst

They were the fedoras of times past

*protestantism

Finland looks mostly barbarous :D but South West is blank, is that englightened? There's a paganism symbol in Lapland.

But then why not count the other nations I mentioned as civilized?

>Entirety of Asia is half-civilized

Gotta love that Anglo arrogance.

Colonialism was the original neo-liberalism.
>interventionist wars
>(((market)))-driven policy
>charity for minorities under the guise of Christian generosity
The only difference is that they used literal slaves rather than our current wage slaves, and weren't dumb enough to try and bring migrants back to their home countries.

>be american
>enlightened as fuck

>South and Central America more civilized than everywhere in Asia

How meme can one map get?

Kek gotta love the way they put things back in the day.

"Unsubdued Indians"

>USA
>2 million African Slaves
>Enlightened

Toronto around 1820's or 30's.

A lot more enlightened than it is now.

>India
Litrally afirica tier. Anything culturly relavent was made 1000s of years ago
>Japan, Korea
heavily westernized
>China
semi civilezed. also heavily westernized

beats me, I agree the asian cultures would be at least civilized if not enlightened during their golden years. But I dont know the state of asia by 1821 specifically, also notice the US is marked as enlightened, so clearly this was not an iberic map but an anglo one.

I Iberic I would have put an enlightened flash on the capitals of the ex-south american viceroyalties as they were just one step below spanish nobility (spaniards did not look upon colonies as direct equals so it makes sense the rest of the land would be painted just as civilized)

Don't know about Africa.
China cucked themselves pretty hard with their isolationist shit.
Japan should've been civilized though.

>Litrally afirica tier. Anything culturly relavent was made 1000s of years ago
Easily proven false. The British stole rocket launchers from the Indians, for example. Obviously the Untouchables were shit, but India has had civilization for thousands of years.
>heavily westernized
Not in the 1800s you fucking moron, open a history book.
>semi civilezed. also heavily westernized
"Semi" how? By "Westernized" you mean sodomized by the West who would soon loot them and sell them opium by gunpoint.

Enlightened af, apparently.

I don't have any issue with the map putting the UK, Germany, Italy, France, the USA, etc as "Enlightened". They all contributed massively to the European Enlightenment and were unarguably the most advanced governments of their time. The idea that any nation exposed to Christianity is automatically superior to any nation not is ridiculous though.

Yes, that is enlightened, if you look closely you can see the lines coming out of it.

Canada has been civilised since God created the world

Relatively speaking, thr anglosphere was enlightened.

Shut the fuck up commie Queerbecuck

This map is pretty cool. Civilized west. I don't think we ever became enlightened lol.

Again, the map has the bias of its creator, and from there it turns out the creator did not attempt to be 100% unbiased. I think the bottom has the label "? ? to act of congress the 28th day of september 1821 by Win C Woodbridge of the State of Connecticut."

If that Woodbridge drew it I'd be right on the bias being american, no wonder the entire US is enlightened, I was having doubts a colonial brit would paint a vassal as equal. I'm sure the spanish wouldn't.

because then they weren't civilized, the countries you mentioned just lost heavily in a civilizational race and haven't accepted western science yet.

If you think modern physics, mathematics is a continuation of the XVI.-XIX. Indian or even better Chinese tradition and not European, you are dumb as hell. Euler, Gauss, Newton, Galileo and all the others were Europeans, and the countries you mentioned were disconnected from the European civilization at that time.

This is before the British Raj, the Boxer Wars and the Black Ships to open up China and Japan and connect India to the Western world.

This wouldn't have been written in colonial times, clown.

Name these many great Spanish, Lithuanian, and Norwegian scientists, philosophers, etc then.

what else but enlightened? you will never get on our level of being both a very wealthy, opportunistic yet insignificant country. why even live? fgts

Don't worry Dutchbro, you guys were definitely Enlightened.

half civilized
even today we surrounded by half civilized

>Troms and Finnmark barbarous

no pansies up north

Name a Garwhali.

And Ibsen was Norwegian btw. This map isn't about the contribution of each part of the world to the human civilization, but how well these parts are connected to the "Enlightened" western civilization that conquered the world and surpassed any other at that time.

Enlightenment was a phrase used to the XVIII. century scientific and cultural revolution. And civilization is obviously the triumphant and superior western European civilization.

Even if no great scientist was born in a particular Latin-American village, the people there benefited from the latest or so technology, because they were economically connected to the western world. While China, Japan and inaccessible areas were cut off.

If you still haven't realized this map is before the colonization of Africa and very much before globalism.

India may have contributed as a civilization all throughout the ages. But at the specific time this map was made, it was backwards as fuck.

Yes, even compared to Latin-America.

What is the criteria for "enlightened"? Purely religious?

>There are different cultures but only one civilization - the Western one.

i have no idea

So literacy is the true God?

I should worship my mom and 1st grade teacher?

Wrong. Cross-hatching>pointalism ANY day