When did it all go so wrong

when did it all go so wrong

Krauts

Juden.

I wish we really would have gassed them, maybe we'd have defeated them then.

Because it was neither holy nor Roman or an empire.

The same reason everything goes (((wrong))).

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Jews betraying their tiny microstates to swear fealty to Napoleon in exchange for political power.

holy due to the pope giving the crown
roman as the successor of rome if you want to think that or because it got it authority from rome (the pope and therefore god) and empire is not exactly a fixed word, but generally just a large realm
so yeah, eat shit limey and stop thinking you're smart because you quote a fedora who's been dead for centuries

Nationalism sort of

facepalm.

HRE was destroyed by Napoleon after Austerlitz long before Jews were that important in Germany.

Fuck off kraut

>long before Jews were that important
Are you serious?
Look up the history of the Rothschilds, they funded european wars for centuries and it wasn't even a big secret

Napoleon's fault. Germany has never been as large/stable as it was under the HRE.

As the EU crumbels the krauts will probably try to have a neo-HRE with whoever is left dutch, Danish, Austria

>hurr durr let me be edgy and uninformed
No, my dick of knowledge has popped your cherry and you will never forget it.
Now fuck off and clean up your whore-juices, cunt.

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>stormfag argument on Sup Forums

>stormfag
>facts
Really, nigger?
Stop getting triggered by the truth.

Really like this feature

When the Frankish rulers died and the Eternal Teuton took over.

Stormfags eternally BTFO

Finally someone who recognizes Voltaire was full of shit in this as he was in almost everything else.

You must be new here, Nigel.

Franks = Teutons

It always bothers me that all modern interpretations of the HRE are focused around the idea that it was "doomed to fail."

Yet it lasted longer than the Roman empire.

With the roman empire, because it more closely resembles the modern nation-state, we always ask "why did it fail?"

I would say the decentralized, chaotic structure of the HRE made it more resilient.

>decentralized, chaotic structure of the HRE made it more resilient
But it also made it a meme "country". Basically everyone considers the date of the formation of the German state to be 1871.

wew

and 1871 was precisely when german society started a downward trend.

Everything that defines german culture and identity came about before 1871

>Everything that defines german culture and identity came about before 1871
You're kinda forgetting the huge prussian influences.

>implying prussia didn't exist before 1871.

>implying its strong influence permeated German society way before that
>implying that the soldier king who started that didn't reign from the early 18th century
Nigger.

San Marino also lasts for over 1500 years now…
Its age is not an arguement. The Holy Roman feudalism was the greatest hinderance Germany had.

though was it the greatest hinderance for the German people?
The HRE oversaw Germans spread east across the Oder, the united Germany saw those Germans get expelled

United Germany saw nothing expelled. It was a crime commited by our enemies in France and England

>Holy Roman feudalism was the greatest hinderance Germany had.


I think you might be forgetting something that not only cucked Germany forever but all of Europe as well

Yeah but for example the French king had more authority over his country than the Emperor

Yeah, that's what made the HRE great.

Just as the articles of confederation were the best form of US government