Most trans are not just self-hating gay guys larping for straight guys. I wish the media would stop perpetuating the narrative that it is ok to be a gay guy as long as you dress as a woman, take pills, and get surgery to be sterilized. This narrative is a female-originated misandrist perspective on male homosexuality that appears to be pushed mostly by women who wish that gay males wanted to be them and gay males desperate to get out of bullying bad situations and give meaning to their life are increasingly acquiescing.
Trans = Inherently Anti-Gay
Their needs are at odds with ours as gay men.
And the media will never tell you about men such as this one who form the majority of the transsexual community, they would rather have you think it is all adorable confused androgynous kids.
This is why as a gay guy I appreciate Trump's refusal to grant religious groups an excuse to discriminate against us but also a refusal to give in federally to the trans agenda which frankly, has nothing to do with me.
--- Grayson Perry, a successful English potter, has from the age of 10 enjoyed dressing up as a woman. Perry’s “alter ego” Claire sometimes favours a Mrs. Thatcher persona, sometimes a “girlish shepherdess” look. Perry considers his penchant a fetish – “my greatest sort of potent sex dream was to be a housewife walking down the road” - and nothing to do with gender identity. “I have no special insight into being a woman. I am just a bloke in a dress.”
There is a name for Perry’s erotic fetish: autogynephilia, an ugly word in English, rendered far more beguilingly in French - amour de soi en femme. It was coined by Toronto sexologist Ray Blanchard of CAMH, and describes men who get sexual pleasure from seeing themselves as women. These men don’t want to actually be women -- that is, they have no wish to transition surgically as male-to-female transgenders (TG) do -- because they understand, exactly as Perry says, that they are not females trapped in a male body; they are biological males indulging an erotic fantasy.
Autogynephilia poses a serious problem for TG advocacy. For two reasons. First, Perry and his ilk muddy the pure waters of the unitary TG narrative: namely that males who yearn to appear as female “are” females who were “assigned” the wrong body at birth, and require rescue by the medical community in order to be made whole. Second, the introduction of eroticism (“potent sex dream”) into the near-spiritual and de-sexualized tropes cultivated in TG advocacy lends credence to the idea that at least one form of cross-gender identification is paraphilia – kinkiness in lay terms - rather than a noble, existential struggle for self-emancipation.
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Jack Ramirez
Bailey describes the typical autogynephiliac as the opposite of the “femme” boy we associate with transgenderism. The autogynephiliac presents as traditionally masculine in childhood and heterosexual in adulthood. He often marries and fathers children before deciding to transition. He looks male up to the point of transitioning, at which point he adopts a retro-glamorous female look. (Caitlyn Jenner fits this general description.) .
Upon publication of the book, Bailey was savaged by infuriated TG activists. One highly prominent activist downloaded to her website photos of Bailey’s young children with the caption: “There are two types of children in the Bailey household…those who have been sodomized by their father [and those] who have not.” (The irony here is that this troll had a few years earlier written to a sex researcher, “I readily admit to my own autogynephilia.”)
Earlier this month we saw a similar mobbing of Daniel Harris, cross-dressing author of Diary of a Drag Queen, for an article he wrote in the Antioch Review, titled “The Sacred Androgen: The Transgender Debate.” It’s a remarkable text that pulls no punches in terms of the contempt the author feels for the TG bullying that marks its public activism. In the push to normalize and airbrush TG as one healthy choice amongst others, advocates are, Harris charges, suppressing unpleasant, but pertinent facts, such as the elevated unemployment and homelessness amongst the TG population, and most worryingly, a TG-related attempted suicide rate of 41%. “It would be disingenuous,” writes Harris, “to say that the cruelty of stigmatization is the reason for all of it.”
Harris pours particular scorn on the unkindness TG activists direct to cross-dressers and transvestites, “whom they view as dilettantes and epigones, failed women, as daffy gay men, whereas they [consider themselves] genuine heterosexuals.”
Oliver Walker
Fag
Mason Hernandez
Well yes I know but I think the disingenuous media narratives are doing no favors to the straight or gay communities.
Eli Cooper
bump
Nicholas Turner
This is a genuinely important question.
The MSM keeps the narrative that trannies are harmless fags when in fact most of them are monstrosities who want to get their rocks off in women's bathrooms.
Wat do?
Noah Campbell
JUDEN RAUSS!
Bentley Roberts
it would get all the trannies and gays fighting against eachother, like when trump made the blacks and mexicans fight
Hudson Cruz
> he doesn't realize the trannies won that fight long ago
Your local public restroom's next mate
Gavin Watson
...
James Kelly
no, if AGP was really brought up, made it onto mainstream news, fight would be back on.
Angel Nguyen
I feel like we should do some public education around the reality of autogynephilia.
Adrian Murphy
no one cares faggot.
Josiah Johnson
Need more infographics about the crimes of autogynephiles
Hudson Brown
yup I've got that all my earliest sexual fantasies were about it I had a wet dream where I was a woman having sex with a guy when I was like 12 or 13
I never asked to be like this desu
Joshua Jenkins
Oh my god I honestly want all of them to die just so I don't have to hear this incoherent self-idulgent babble ever again.
Ryan Cox
Fuck off retard
Jordan Brooks
Like, stuff that can be memed? There are a lot of crimes by trannies, and about all the bad guys are AGPs.
Ryan Cox
It doesn't mean you have to be a tranny tho. Keep it under control and cross dress on the weekends or something.
Evan Cooper
Exactly
Angel Jackson
>Keep it under control and cross dress on the weekends or something.
this is what Sup Forums and fascist never understand lmao
it's never as simple as "keep it under control"
thank god i will never have to live in one of your societies where you either conform or get the "day of the rope"
Wyatt Hernandez
I want to push on this but need to go for now
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Isaac Roberts
basically 100% of traps have it probably 50% or more Mtf trannies have it there's a pretty decent amount of porn for it, it's probably more common than you think
it's basically a sexual orientation in itself
Blake Sanchez
It can be if you realize you're not actually a real woman, just a perverted man. Especially since you can get a lot of social benefit from staying male.
You don't have to go all the way to be reasonably happy. You can even take some estrogen and get the tits you're lusting after.
Grayson Perry is a piece of shit. Channel 4 keep letting him make programmes too. At least he has marginally more talent and insight than the YBA
Cooper Diaz
I already let it ruin my life it's too late >extremely turned on at the thought of taking hormones my whole life >buy hormones in high school >hips get wider >balls get fucked up >body ruined forever >feel like a freak >smoke weed daily, become alcoholic >accept life is ruined, get ready to suicide >start giving my stuff away >figure if I'm gonna kill myself I might as well go on hormones again and now I'm here
Adam Edwards
yes we the do lady things like knitting... and shit
Josiah King
>posting autogynephile fanfic for attention kek
Isaiah Baker
not fucking even obviously I could make it not pathetic and actually interesting if I was making it up
you're right that agps like women, but bisexuality it's pretty common whether it's learned or natural. I can pretty much promise you that the guys who live as guys and seem straight but dress up as girls and post sexual pictures online for attention from men have agp
Henry Powell
>still trying to get attention kek
Asher Davis
I wish the stories of people like you were in the media more than cute kids on puberty blockers.
Camden Perry
there's some AGP tranny who is a professional gamer that posts on /lgbt/ sometimes who said she got on puberty blockers by lying to therapists about why she wanted to transition at age 15
she became absolutely miserable after getting a vagina because it took away all of her sex drive and was living in a body she didn't really want it's quite sad
Easton Cook
>I can pretty much promise you that the guys who live as guys and seem straight but dress up as girls and post sexual pictures online for attention from men have agp
kek, I know this feel. Luckily I am not a complete and total retard (only like 50% retarded) so I didn't ever go on or seriously consider going on hormones. My only worry is that eventually I could be one of those gross old 50~ year old dudes who are married and secretly crossdress from time to time.
Nicholas Morales
LOL'
> being agp...getting vag removed
L O L
I GUESS SHE AINT AGP ANYMORE
Brody Walker
>she
Gavin Ortiz
Tell researchers your story at least, if not openly protest against trannies. Like how some people on /k/ are suicidial but don't use a gun because they don't want to contribute to """another homicide by guns."""
Anthony Allen
Wowie zowie nased on this cherrypicked proof i now realize all trannies are child molesters
Joseph Sanchez
idk there's no objective reason not to crossdress if you like it it's embarrassing but that's kinda it
Brayden Barnes
polgb is best couple they make me feel so warm inside pls post more
Jordan Russell
>. My only worry is that eventually I could be one of those gross old 50~ year old dudes who are married and secretly crossdress from time to time.
If you want to put on a dress and makeup and fuck someone, fine, nothing wrong with that. As long as you know its just a kink that you put away when you have to return to the real world. The problem is when people take a fetish and make it the whole of their identity.
Brandon Price
it's already a pretty well-known phenomenon ray blanchard published studies about it that people basically just ignore because they don't like the idea of that fueling transitioning for many trannies. I think agp is part of the reason there are so many more MtFs than FtMs most trannies wouldn't admit to having agp in person. a good number really do just lie in order to get prescribed hormones
