University has started in many places around the world, and the local Communist/Marxist revolutionary groups have been recruiting freshmen.
They are here, on Sup Forums, as part of their subversion strategy, because many college age people are on here, and they are committed to full spectrum ideological subversion/psychological warfare.
A group known as Socialist Alternative/Redflag is behind all of the shill threads.
What can you, as a patriot do?
Simple.
These groups are small, weak, and shrill. They consist of less than 1% of the entire population at any given time. They work in the darkness, and they flee from the light. IRL Rip down their propaganda and bin it. Eventually they will stop posting it. It costs them money to print up so many flyers.
Do not reply to their threads, or sage and let them slide.
Remember: In a non-democratic country it takes 1% of the population to be communists to start a revolution. But those are in countries that have never experienced democracy and free markets. Communism only took root in countries that never had a democratic republic. But it only needs good patriots to do nothing for the vile weed of marxism to spread.
A good watch if you want to be more aware in how others are manipulating the world view of you and those around you. youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4 and a clip from the same video if you can't be assed to watch it all youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA
there's another video called the Subversion Factor which goes even deeper into the spread of communism/marxism within the US government. and it only uses known proven case files to make it's point
These shills get BTFO in their shitty Communist General threads, don't let them post unchallenged.
Jonathan Taylor
Bah, most people who praise communism are legit mentally hindered (you can see how they look like at their rallies) I'm pretty sure the average Joe will realize communism is retarded the moment he meets he's "comrades"
Easton Wilson
That's the funniest part
Levi Powell
I remember my first day on Sup Forums
Oldfags already know all this
Newfags dont get their adhd triggered enough to care unpess you post some dank OC memes
Jaxon Morris
who are Socialist Alternative/Redflag? i cant find any websites about any of these
Nathan Taylor
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Carson Reed
they are based in australia, which is why all of their posting happens during australian waking hours
Brody Hughes
this is one of their flyers
Alexander Brooks
Any evidence that those cucks post here though?
Even if they did, everyone can see through their retarded ideology.
Asher Rodriguez
they cant even define communism in their own threads. its funnier to just go fuck with them.
Henry Harris
not directly, but they will slip up.
this is from some other members who may or may not be affiliated with the redflag cell
Cooper Nguyen
Imma need a sauce on that pic, famalam.
Cooper Howard
somethingsomethingbabyfat
Jeremiah Bailey
Stop posting this fat, sweaty Chinese girl. She is disgusting. She looks like she is secreting sesame oil from her fat pores. I'm literally throwing up wontons.
that's a great low test bluepilled commie impression, bro
Jayden Morris
>fat >sweaty from working out
pick one
and fuck communists
Jordan Powell
Much appreciated, desu.
Tyler Walker
actually more like
>DUDE GREED LMAO
Easton Thomas
>trying to LARP as USSR subverters in /his/ REEEEEEEE GET THE FUCK OUT
Colton Evans
>Communism >Buy your tickets now! Man they are so retarded.
Liam Torres
holy shit are they clueless? the left cant meme worth shit they never will
Justin Walker
sounds like its time for a /pol raid on /his and/lit
Christopher Edwards
>>>DUDE GREED LMAO I asked what "they" try to define it as rather than what you think they are saying. If you must repeat it verbatim then do so.
Parker Howard
The fact that Sup Forums is influential enough that interloper groups want to subvert it, it's still amazing to me.
Brayden Rogers
Fat sweaty white girls are so much hotter
Adam Harris
this is the communist's argument
Michael Kelly
>University has started in many places around the world, and the local Communist/Marxist revolutionary groups have been recruiting freshmen. No, universities are liberal, they are filled with liberals. People who think communists and liberals are the same, or even remotely similar, the type of people who don't read books.
>They are here, on Sup Forums, as part of their subversion strategy, because many college age people are on here, and they are committed to full spectrum ideological subversion/psychological warfare. Or because it's a discussion board about politics?
>A group known as Socialist Alternative/Redflag is behind all of the shill threads. I thought it was /r/socialism, or it was /leftypol/, it seems like every month there is a different website brigading apparently. Or maybe, this is just a popular board that discusses politics, and there is a chunk of the political spectrum which is far-left?
>Do not reply to their threads, or sage and let them slide. Yes goy, don't have conversations with the enemy. Keep yourself dumb and keep shilling for (((capitalism))). But seriously, how fucking un-aware of yourself do you have to be to actively say "do not have a discussion"? You're basically admitting you're intellectually lazy.
On the subject of those videos: Explain how the USSR was either socialist or communist. Just do that.
Kayden Thompson
communism and leftism (marxism in particular) in general is OBSESSED with race. free marketists just hire whoever will do the best job for the least amount of money
if this were a test you'd get an F for 0/5 marks. none of what you said is factually true. marxists are by definition Leftists
Camden Miller
>>>universities aren't the center of communism He's partially right though. In Europe, maybe they are commies, but in the US they are mostly progressive liberals.
Marxists vehemently disagree with liberal conceptions of freedoms
Carter Clark
THIS.
Sup Forums complains about /leftypol/ and communists so much but I doubt that they have actually had a proper discussion with them. As an Australian, the socialism is taking over our country thing is way overblown. Rampant capitalism is a much greater problem.
Easton Hughes
It's all the same shit. Progressivism is progressivism, whether it's the French Revolution or the October Revolution.
Once again, gtfo shill.
Connor Collins
Leftists, by definition are not Marxists. In order to prove that Leftism and Marxism are the same, you must rigoriously prove that the set of Marxists and the set of leftists are one in the same thing. You can see how this is problematic if you want to resort to that level of thinking. In the US, Leftism includes a much more wider variety of political thought outside of Marxism.
Landon Reyes
I bet her ass smells pretty good.
Noah Taylor
"Don't let them post unchallenged". Meanwhile all you can do is post helicopters and "MUH NOT REAL COMMUNISM"
You can't read centuries of literature while being mentally hindered. Most of the "communists" you're thinking of, like this person: youtube.com/watch?v=trkacTQj7ew Are just social democrats. And they're also autistic as fuck, hence why they believe the things they do.
Brandon Edwards
>It's all the same shit. It most certainly is not. Marxism has many responses and critiques of liberalism, most notably, the liberal conception of individual rights. The spooky Frankfurt Marxist philosopher Adorno even wrote how Enlightenment lead to Fascism.
>Once again, gtfo shill. I am merely stating the facts, which should not constitute as an endorsement of any prescriptive philosophies or moral actions.
Jordan Reyes
Yes, there are people who consider themselves communists in university, but pretending universities aren't liberal institutions is retarded.
Hudson Wilson
Yes, and LIBERALISM is not leftist. Hence why marxism and liberalism are not the same. Fuck's sake.
Adam Rivera
i said marxists are leftists.
i did not say all leftists are marxists.
you just proved yourself wrong, retard. i am well versed in mathematical logic, don't patronise me.
Leo Ortiz
>Reminder: Marxism is the reverse of humanity
Luis Morris
We are taking their newfags from them. All invaders will either be recruited or forced out.
Angel Richardson
if you haven't read this, and are still a marxist, you're not a real marxist and you never will be
/leftypol/ kid I'm happy you're also against the enemy but communism is unattainable. You must evolve to something better. You'll understand what I am saying some day. Also >It's not national socialism it's DEMOCRATIC socialism :3 Heil Bernie!
Oliver Evans
>here, on Sup Forums, as part of their subversion strategy
haven't they realized that doesn't work yet? We just end up breaking their ideology.
Brandon Gonzalez
"Would that be against the rules" "I'm in" "lol this is so funny for some reason"
These kids have no idea where they are heading. We are the BORG, they will assimilate!
Ryder Garcia
If you haven't read Wage Labor and Capital, or Capital, or even The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money. You don't understand advanced economics.
Christopher Turner
I don't go on leftypol, I also don't go on any of the reddit socialist boards and I have never previously heard of Socialist Alternative until this thread. I keep my leftism with books, and just spend time having discussions on this board because I'll at least be challenged somewhat. Anyways, you don't get to just say "communism is unattainable" and "you'll understand what I am saying some day", that is intellectually lazy. What reasoning have you used to get that position?
And also, I voted for Trump, I still would if the election were held today. I literally just explained that I hate social democrats, why would I vote for Bernie?
Justin Martinez
I am replying to >LnRv2FDJ, not (((you)))
Nathaniel Phillips
Only a sophist would espouse about things which he does not comprehend. You cannot know advanced economics without first mastering basic economics. If you have gaps in your knowledge, then you will encounter problems to which you have no solution.
That's the trap Marx fell into when he wrote those books.
Brandon Roberts
Besides, if you are so sure in Marxist economic theory, then why are you terrified of reading one little book indirectly criticising Marxism?
Gavin Brooks
yea there's a gang of Melbourner that rip these down where ever they are posted. It's even better when you rip it down in front of them... Just make sure you have a few buddies with you if you do though since a Communist is a Pack animal and will attack a single person when provoked,
Gavin Butler
>You cannot know advanced economics without first mastering basic economics. And you can't talk about economics at all without understanding advanced economics. The same really should go for all Austrian "economists".
>If you have gaps in your knowledge, then you will encounter problems to which you have no solution. And those gaps in Marxist Theory are?
>That's the trap Marx fell into when he wrote those books. Marx didn't write The General Theory. That was a Keynesian book. I know the word "Keynesian" strikes terror into the hearts of all Austrians and Monetarists alike, but it seems like the majority have not even read him.
I'm not "terrified" of the book, I'm just tired of seeing the "basic economics" line brought up over and over by people who ONLY understand basic economics. The same can be asked of you, why are you terrified of Marx and refuse to read his work?
Elijah Watson
Is it possible to know about a subject without having read from the subject? I ask this because I have a suspicion that those who criticize Marx on this thread are doing it without having engaged with the work, yet they agree with the general idea that we should all learn something about the other side if we wish to criticize it. Wouldn't this be hypocrisy ? Marxism isn't the gospel like many of his detractors think their adherents believe. His works are philosophical and like many other philosophers, he's had a number of critics from thinkers since his time and other Marxists.
Easton Sanders
>begging the question fallacy stop avoiding it and read basic economics, the both of you. the author was an unironic marxist until his late 20s
Cooper Johnson
>Dodging my points by just going "read the book". Intellectually lazy. I'll read your book in the upcoming days (Still finishing Conquest of Bread), even though I have a sneaking suspicion it doesn't actually explain how freemarket, basic economics, can actually solve all the world's problems and has no inherent flaws, I still will. But ignoring my question of "those gaps in marxist theory are?" By just saying "read the book both of you" is absolutely pathetic.
Luis Ramirez
you are so obsessed with getting the last word, aren't you? you people have one thing in common, you live by the petty argument, and you die by the petty argument; never advancing in knowledge, a mangy dog chasing your own tail, and fatuously barking at anyone who comes near.
why won't you join us on a plane of higher knowledge?
Brody Thompson
>you are so obsessed with getting the last word, aren't you? I'm asking you to answer my question, you're clearly just projecting right now.
>you people have one thing in common, you live by the petty argument, and you die by the petty argument; never advancing in knowledge, a mangy dog chasing your own tail, and fatuously barking at anyone who comes near. why won't you join us on a plane of higher knowledge?
lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao r u triggered?
Jason Ortiz
You don't have to read that trash lol. I know everything about basic micro and macro and it's all rubbish.
Literally has proven itself incorrect.
See the failure of DSGE models to predict anything, the IS/LM model being internally inconsistent and make no useful predictions, the sonnenschein–mantel–debreu theorem, the fact that marginal costs actually slope downwards and not upwards making micro-economics false from the get go and the utter real life failure of the efficient market hypothesis as seen like all of the time but catastrophically in 2008.
Anthony Myers
>the fact that marginal costs actually slope downwards and not upwards making micro-economics false from the get go What The Fuck Does This Actually Mean?
Nathan Brooks
>no man, don't read a critique of marxism! DON'T READ IT, WHATEVER YOU DO! it's trash, trust me!
Camden Watson
brainlet no but i have, i don't need to read your pet book
"One can never read too little of bad, or too much of good books: bad books are intellectual poison; they destroy the mind.
In order to read what is good one must make it a condition never to read what is bad; for life is short, and both time and strength limited." - Arthur Schopenhauer
Parker Allen
oh by the way, none of what you mentioned is in the book. it's a very plain english down to earth book, with real life examples written by an economist who studied his masters in economics under Nobel Prize winner Milton Friedman, who is now a fellow at the Hoover Institution.
He has a bachelors, masters, and Ph.D. in economics. I'm pretty sure he knows more about economics, and every economic system (including socialist ones) than any of us combined.
You're just a charlatan who read marx and thinks you have the universe figured out.
Wyatt Baker
>marx is definitely not a bad book :^) *pat on the head* good goy
Julian Hughes
I've seen these posters in the city where my girlfriend and I sometimes have a coffee or something to eat and always rip them down and dispose of them thoughtfully. No one bats an eyelid.
Jaxson Wilson
>any work of marx is definitely not a bad book :^) *pat on the head* good goy
Eli White
None of what I said is in Marx and it's hilarious that you don't know any of this so art resorting to name dropping uncle Milton (kek) and >the hoover institute.
wew tier enjoy life as a brainlet
Isaac Carter
>based aussie patriot
Grayson Fisher
>i was only pretending to be retarded
you do you, bro. you do you.
Samuel Reed
We have the entire developed western world to prove capitalism worka, you have a history of failure and a book written by a shut-in autist. Just give it up, faggot.
Luis Kelly
consider finding a good tafe that provides adult reading comprehension courses, brainlet
Anthony Clark
I'm not sure what's going on here. I asked someone what they meant by something they said, and the response I got was "brainlet". What's going on?
Caleb Rogers
>We have the entire developed western world to prove capitalism worka ...which is all propped up on 3rd world labor.
>you have a history of failure and a book written by a shut-in autist. You literally have to actively try to not learn anything in order to think there's only one left-wing book ever written. Not to mention ignore all the historical context behind the USSR and China.
Leo Brooks
mate...
Elijah Morgan
>I know everything about basic micro and macro and it's all rubbish. What do you think of MMT? And why?
>the fact that marginal costs actually slope downwards Per unit they slope downwards, but on aggregate they slope upwards.
BTW bad books are only poison if you can't spot their flaws. And some books have good parts in them despite reaching a bad conclusion (Marx being the classic example, but it's equally true of Hayek).
Noah Green
mate...you know tafe is all about becoming a tradie
Hunter Bennett
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Logan Martinez
>propped up how? you can't name one instance. they are paid what their goods and services are worth.
the world is not an equal place. even europe is not an equal place. western europe has 3 rivers leading to the atlantic ocean. eastern europe's rivers all lead to the black sea.
east asia has over 30 peaks that rise above 20,000 feet, africa has none.
equality is a meme. equal distribution of energy in the universe is the definition of the heat death of the universe. you want that? scarcities and wealth in economics behave in strikingly similar ways to energy in physics.
MMT is good but they don't have a complete theory of inflation.
>Per unit they slope downwards, but on aggregate they slope upwards. Not sure what you mean here, could you elaborate.
The Schopenhauer quote is obviously a joke, what do you mean by Marx reaching bad conclusions?
Jeremiah Foster
Praise Kek
Zachary Price
I hope it works out for you. Thank the trade unions for fighting for your high wages.
Tyler Gray
fuck unions, we need to abolish minimum wage, and rent control too, it's only reduced the HDI, and kept millions of Australians in australian poverty
Jordan Jackson
>how? The resources are mined in africa and manufactured in asia, then they are shipped and sold in America for cheaper prices. The US economy is almost entirely a service economy now, no one in the USA produces anything. Those in 3rd world countries are intentionally kept in wage-slavery, they can barely afford to survive, this keeps them from being able to resist and revolt.
>they are paid what their goods and services are worth. The whole point of capitalism is that you are NOT paid what your goods and services are worth. You are paid less than what you produce, so that profit can be generated.
>the world is not an equal place. even europe is not an equal place. western europe has 3 rivers leading to the atlantic ocean. eastern europe's rivers all lead to the black sea. And?
>east asia has over 30 peaks that rise above 20,000 feet, africa has none. And?
>equality is a meme. What does equality have to do with anything? Or do you think Marxism is just "EVERYONE IS EXACTLY THE SAME!"? Because you should read "In Critique of the Gotha Project" if you do.
>equal distribution of energy in the universe is the definition of the heat death of the universe. you want that? Oh fuck lads we just went from theoretical Marxism to Quantum Marxism
>scarcities and wealth in economics behave in strikingly similar ways to energy in physics. So abolish wealth. The majority of wealthy people do not get wealthy off their own labor, they get wealthy off the labor of other individuals. Capitalism is inherently un-meritocratic and against human nature because of this. (yes, I'm using your own card against you, because human societies always used common property, and private property was always established with violence and force)
Juan Cruz
>being this unaustralian top kek m8
Evan Howard
>they are paid what their goods and services are worth
>actually thinking this when the world economy is based on outsourced manufacturing goods being produced in china for something like 1% the labour cost from when they were produced in america >yet the goods sell for the same price as they always have in the us
honestly, know a thing or two >he says this >australia has the 4th heighest gdp per capita (excluding the oil rich municipalities)
stop talking right now brainlet
Isaac Sullivan
also, the proof of capitalism is that a capitalist economy is SO STRONG that it can support leech after leech, and giant parasitical infestations such as welfare, and still not collapse.
just imagine how strong and prosperous the economy would be without all of that hinderance.
Aaron Cruz
The welfare state exists to keep the citizens happy and not rioting. If you removed the welfare state, the workers would start revolting again and take the factories away from the bourgeoisie. This would probably fail in Australia though considering you took away all the guns.
Brody Harris
yes, that's globalisation of the market. don't you know anything? nobody in england has produced much of anything since the industrilisation of china.
what you are saying is that the Chinese should have stayed farmers and never risen out of poverty to become an industrialised nation.
>The whole point of capitalism is that you are NOT paid what your goods and services are worth. You are paid less than what you produce, so that profit can be generated. wrong again. you can get away with underpaying somebody a few times, but there is (unless the market is regulated to protect these people, as it is in many cases since the 1930's) always competition. the price decreases with supply, and increases with scarcity. the demand increases the price. the increased price incentivises supply.
>And? and some places, people and cultures are different from others. they have different natural resources to work with, and they can't do the same things as everybody else.
>Oh fuck lads we just went from theoretical Marxism to Quantum Marxism you sound like you're having a mental breakdown
Kayden Walker
>This would probably fail in Australia though considering you took away all the guns. Are you actually retarded or just pretending?
