Redpill me on sellner and his little club

redpill me on sellner and his little club.
he disavowed hitle rmultiple times, is he controlled opposition?

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He can't openly approve of Hitler, he is the head of the IBÖ. They are already getting shit from every Lügenpresse im Kaiserreich. Openly admitting that you're a nazi is a death sentence.
Same reason why the FPÖ is pro-israel.

hipster faggot

This.

How retarded are you Hans?
He's german. Going full "Hitler did nothing wrong" will kill every politican party in germany thanks to generations of indoctrination.

Also: You don't need a role model that has destroyed germany. Hitler lost and that fucked germany worse than communism. Don't workship a loser. Make it better.

plus dem neo nazis make Germany look bad.

if it really is just a PR thing then he should just shut the fuck up instead of constantly counter signaling natsocs.

he also repeats allied propaganda like "muh herrenrasse" when asked about it.

You talk like a faggot op

Oh w8 OP is a faggot

You get into jail for doing simple hatespeech here, austrians have to hide their power level

You don't understand, Hans. If you're right wing in germany you have to play that act of not being like "them". You have to go out of your way to get people on board.

Also, statting that germany isn'tthe Herrenrasse is just plain fact. Japs are the real Übermensch and our current state of affairs shos it, besides obvious IQ.

Don't look at what has been said, look at what has been done and in which direction this will lead gen z. You can't go full 1488, you have to play normie. People want to be good and you will have to show them that currently the right is the ethical political movement instead of being for another Reiskrieg.

how many times? he could just SHUT UP about natsocs and hitler when asked about it. you can't get arrested for not stomping on a swastika when journalists ask for it, and they'll make you look like a "evil nazi" anyway.

but instead of that, this kind of garbage comes out of his mouth:

"Der NS glaube an die biologische und geistige Überlegenheit des nordischen Menschen als einzigen Kulturschöpfer.
Das war die herrschende Lehre, die sicher nicht alle teilten und nicht jedes Zitat widerspiegelt, aber die sich politisch durchsetzte.
Es ist relativ lächerlich wenn man versucht Ethnopluralismus in den NS hinein zu projizieren. Ich versteh auch nicht warum man das tun sollte.
Man kann die Ideologie und das System einfach analysieren und es dann insgesamt ablehnen, ohne dass man deswegen ein Multikulti werden muss.
Es gab Jahrtausende vor dem NS einen völlig normalen Bezug auf Herkunft, Kultur und Identität. Der manische Bezug auf diese Ideologie, ihre Vertreter und Symbole wundert mich immer wieder. Sowohl bei Neonazis als auch bei Multikultis.
Ich bin dagegen jeden Patrioten und jeden der von Herkunft, Kultur, Abstammung und Identität spricht als "Nazi" zu bezeichnen.
Aber genau diese linke Strategie stärken die Neonazis indem sie diese Begriffe für ihre Ideologie reklamieren, und den NS rehabilitieren wollen.

Ich bin dagegen, we Nolte für eine ehrlich und nüchterne Betrachtung der Geschichte des 20. Jh, auch wenn manche von links und rechts damit nicht klarkommen. ^^"

Don't spiral you idiot.

He does more for the race than you'd ever do

>how many times? he could just SHUT UP about natsocs and hitler when asked about it. you can't get arrested for not stomping on a swastika when journalists ask for it, and they'll make you look like a "evil nazi" anyway.

You are indeed retarded or a cheap Justo shill at this point.

You have to act normie and be against ze ebin nadsis. That's how far left we are. We have to destroy the left from inside. That's why the NPD and even the AfD get canned. They show their powerlevel to early.

>Der NS glaube an die biologische und geistige Überlegenheit des nordischen Menschen als einzigen Kulturschöpfer.

That's a biological and political fact. Read into evolution. Nordics aren't better, at least besides aesthetics. Also there were more nordic poles than germans and Hitler still fucked them up.

>Es ist relativ lächerlich wenn man versucht Ethnopluralismus in den NS hinein zu projizieren. Ich versteh auch nicht warum man das tun sollte.
Man kann die Ideologie und das System einfach analysieren und es dann insgesamt ablehnen, ohne dass man deswegen ein Multikulti werden muss.

Yes, you can dismiss a ideology that has destroyed europe and simply invent another, better one. Quit being a nostalgic faggot. A new time requires a new mentality.

>Es gab Jahrtausende vor dem NS einen völlig normalen Bezug auf Herkunft, Kultur und Identität. Der manische Bezug auf diese Ideologie, ihre Vertreter und Symbole wundert mich immer wieder. Sowohl bei Neonazis als auch bei Multikultis.

So, what's bad about simply being proud of heritage, culture and genes without a failed ideology?

>Ich bin dagegen jeden Patrioten und jeden der von Herkunft, Kultur, Abstammung und Identität spricht als "Nazi" zu bezeichnen.

Pure Nationalism.

Get real, Hans. He's a nationalist and considering how few ethnogermans we have left it's only right to accept other european nationalist who love germany and want it to remain german. That'S what Hitler really wanted.

>ou have to act normie and be against ze ebin nadsis. That's how far left we are. We have to destroy the left from inside.

yeah, try to outjew the jew. you are really smart, kevin.

>That's a biological and political fact. Read into evolution. Nordics aren't better, at least besides aesthetics.

you should invest in reading comprehension.
nordics are the master race that creates all culture, but they aren't superior besides aesthetics? wtf, nigger.

>Yes, you can dismiss a ideology that has destroyed europe

yes, National socialism destroyed europe. not english firebombings, russian tanks or eternal kike propaganda.

>So, what's bad about simply being proud of heritage, culture and genes without a failed ideology?

the problem is that plenty of "national socialist ideology and symbols" are simply GERMAN ideology and symbols you fucking dumbass. what symbols and values is the new patriotic state gonna use? runes are racist, because nazis. the sun symbols of swastika and sunwheel are racist because nazis. germanic mythology is racist because nazis. a woman being a mother that raises her kids is racist and misogynistic because nazis. outlawing homo marriage is homophobic and nazi. not letting trannies choose their gender is intolerant and nazi. not letting ahmed fuck your wife is racist and nazi.

>NPD
>not a fake party established by foreign agency to make the right look bad constantly
Why do you think the (((NPD))) always likes to show their "powerlevel" and don't simmer down even a bit? Do you unironically believe those con artists are hardcore nationalists?
Go figure that (((they))) needed to set up something like this to make sure that no right wing party ever gets accepted again by the people of the country and thus make sure they can remain in power.

>nordics created all culture
>what are greeks
>what are romans
Top kek mein Neger.

>yeah, try to outjew the jew. you are really smart, kevin.

Yeah, let's just try to gas them. That worked really well the last time, didn't it?

>nordics are the master race that creates all culture, but they aren't superior besides aesthetics?

No, nordics created quite few thinks. It's more a mediteranean thing and east-asians. Even our modern white and western cultures are the direct product of ancient greek philosophie and christian (semitic) religion.

I'm sorry Hans. We're neither the most intelligent (east asians) nore the most strong ones (dindus), we're an intermediate race which is the best in transforming knowledge and making it better.

We're worthy, but simply not superiour to all. We're the product of evolution which only made us superiour to our lands (eg drinking milk, harvesting vit D, ...)

>yes, National socialism destroyed europe. not english firebombings, russian tanks or eternal kike propaganda.

Giving the kikes something to manipulate other white nations, kille us.

>he problem is that plenty of "national socialist ideology and symbols" are simply GERMAN ideology and symbols

Context Hans.

>runes are racist, because nazis. the sun symbols of swastika and sunwheel are racist because nazis

Don't look in ancient times. You don't need symbols from the past for an conservative and nationalistic mind. Also, neighter of them was german/ purely german.

The eastern nationalists for example have simply made a new one, like the Kolovrat going full neo-pagan. But they can do it, thanks to the fact that their population is already redpilled enought.

We have the IB symbol.

You're faggot bitching about thinks to wear and look nice instead of real politics.

We need something leftwing that they can't smear with Hitler tbqhwy

>That worked really well the last time, didn't it?
How to spot them besides the plebbit spacing

>That worked really well the last time, didn't it?

No one gave a shit about the jew you dumb fuck. For all people care, you could've killed all the jews and more.

Hitler did more than just
>le exterminate sum juice

He literally tried to conquer all of Europe and attacked countries left, right and center. Even though we lost the previous war, because we were heavily outnumbered, he tried it again, bc
>it's ok guize, we ALMOST WON last time, let's just try it again, it'll all be completely daijoubu to attack France and the UK with the Soviets in our back

he was a delusional lunatic, who got further relying on the competence of people he ultimately exploited to their complete destruction, than he ever deserved.

Hitler fucked up, he lost and more importantly the whole fucking world changed since then.

So who gives a crap either way?

>>what are greeks
>what are romans
>No, nordics created quite few thinks. It's more a mediteranean thing and east-asians

seriously, 0 reading comprehension.
my point was that the third reich was NOT nordicist.

>Don't look in ancient times. You don't need symbols from the past for an conservative and nationalistic mind.

what other things are you willing to cede to the kikes? really, as expected of a coward afraid of being called words. next stop "you don't have to have a german mother and father to be a german!"

>hitler wanted to conquer the WHOLE WORLD!

yeah sure thing.

>No one gave a shit about the jew you dumb fuck. For all people care, you could've killed all the jews and more.
>who's chuchills wormtongue

>He literally tried to conquer all of Europe and attacked countries left, right and center
Not really. He had to do it (Lebensraum, Pilsudski, trust and self-protection). Und willst du nicht hören so brauch ich Gewalt. Also:
>what was the treaty of versailles

>Hitler fucked up, he lost and more importantly the whole fucking world changed since then.
This. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. He bit off more than he could cew and now generation after generation got mind-raped and genocided for it.
It's time for a new german mindset in the direction of nationalism instead of larping. Times have sadly changed and we can't use an ideology which has failed even 100 years back in time.

>what other things are you willing to cede to the kikes?

Not swinging an international symbol like a swastika, pan-european symbols like runes or sieg-heiling with an made up roman salute doesn't mean you're giving up anything. It means you know how it will make you look and how important it is whatyour fellow citizens will think after being indoctrinated for years.

You have to be a moderate in the beginning instead of ODing on the redpills.

>Hillieboy dindu nuffin wrong, it was all to revise Versailles
Okay, okay, whatever. I do get it, the German Trianon and whatever.

But the point is, he wasn't hated and gangfucked in the end because he killed some jooz.

But because he declared war on fucking everybody. Yes, sure the Poles took clay from Germany and then acted all uppity, but still it was kinda in the sphere of Polish influence, Prussia did only dismember POland with other powers and took Polish clay, then colonized it and respressed the locals, but most importantly

Hitler declared war on Poland.

Even though the allies warned him not to do it, and stop at Prague, he did it anyway, he was the aggressor, who started ww2.

And then he did it again against the Soviets. Yes, Stalin wanted to backstab him, yada yada.

But in the end, Hitler was the one, who pulled the trigger and started a war. And killed millions of Russians, raped the locals, butchered a whole bunch of Russkis, with a bunch of loyal lackies like us.

My point isn't to claim that Hitler was the devil, and the others were saints, but to highlight, that European nations hate Hitler, because he killed white Europeans, their great-grandparents, or their siblings or their friends.

Hitler is a divisive figure from, and to be completely honest here, a mistake. If not for anything, but because we lost.

Any new right-wing movement in Europe should realize that we can't afford to hate and harm each other any more, when the enemy is at or even crossed our gates.

Identitaire is a cuck movement. NS movements openly reject them for their anti-European open-whiteness ideas

i'm not asking for anyone to fall on their knees and partake in esoteric hitlerism, all i want is for the cucks to simply SHUT THEIR FUCKING MOUTHS and stop constantly counter signaling, or worse: spread blatant propaganda like generalplan ost or MUH HERRENRASSE.

>Any new right-wing movement in Europe should realize that we can't afford to hate and harm each other any more, when the enemy is at or even crossed our gates.

That we can agree on. We're already a minority in our own lands and even globally as whites. We can't fight it alone as nations, propbaly even against each other (like the EUdssR would love it). Calling such a mindset "cuck" is like choping you own legs of, because of a splinter. We either compromise our muh supremacy and have each others back or in our own time there will be no more white identitarians to call cucks.

That's why even such low tier ethnics like arabs can do what they do. They simply unite under a sommon flag of mudslimes.

generation identitaire probably are very legit, they are the ones who were the first. And who started pushing awareness of it all. A controlled op only starts when there is a huge desire of a large group, only lacking a platform or a leader which they can obviously exploit. The alt right with its jew faggots fit that bill pretty well.

But these guys formed during the first years when people like us barely were even aware of it all. That means that they were formed in years when there wasnt a huge crowd of people looking for a platform or leader group.

Perhaps they could be hijacked right now, but their leadership probably is wise enough not to let that happen.

>all these implications

You can be a nationalist without being a nazi.

You can be a ethnonationalist without being a nazi.

You can be an ethnonationalist who understands the JQ without being a nazi.

NatSoc is a SINGLE brand of fascist ethnonationalism.

Not liking it doesn't mean you're controlled opposition, it just means you're not a Nazi.

Even Russia purged a tonne of jews after the initial cadre died off/went out of power.

TL;DR: Not only can he not acknowledge them, I do not see why he has to.

he looks cute
> no homo

>Hitler destroyed Germany

Oyyy veeyyyy

Keep larping that's the best way to make sure no one wil take nationalism serious for another couple years.
Good goy. 0,50 shekel have been deposited into your account.

I'm just pretending to be retarded

>generation identitaire probably are very legit, they are the ones who were the first.

You don't know shit about those retards.

They were just created to fuck the FN and promote the EU.

he's actually anti-hitler. Doesn;t believe in National Socialism. He follows the conservative revolutionaries from the 1920s. The ones who tried to kill Hitler in 1944. Von Stauffenberg is one of his heroes.

No he isn't "controlled opposition."

> NS movements openly reject them

Good. Cause NS movements have been so fucking successful in the last 50 years. Why would anyone want to be liked by those losers?

This. Instead of changing their tactics they still think that walking around in bomber jackets and an undercut while calling every nigger openly a Neger will give them political weight.

Just look how much shit the Identitarians get compared to the NPD. That's the best sign that they are able to change something. Just liek the AfD in the beginning.

Yep. the establishment hates the IB and the AfD because they look like normies and they can't pigeonhole them like NPD retards or Neo-nazis.

you know whats more effective than eeing a bunch of skinheads march with torches against mass migration? A bunch of normal people, women, mothers, grandmothers marching against left extremists protesting the systematic rape and assault by migrants.

> they can't pigeonhole them like NPD retards or Neo-nazis.
yeah, they can't call the guys running around in black with undercuts nazis, which is why they do it constantly in their outlets.
are you simply ignorant, or delusional?

and what exactly has the IG accomplished? what has the AFD accomplished?

niggers and arabs run around robbing and raping, and they still can't break 20%. what a fucking joke.

I guess all those "controlled opposition" threads are just part of the current shilling wave going on.

>and what exactly has the IG accomplished? what has the AFD accomplished?
A change in the next generation. Making them more open to right wing ideas, as they don't look as retarded. Look up Gen Z and their political compass.

>niggers and arabs run around robbing and raping, and they still can't break 20%. what a fucking joke.
Oh well, and what did the NPD accomplised in the last like 20 years? Go shill your 1488 somewhere else. It never worked and it will never work. Get real and look for realistic alternatives.

>Look up Gen Z and their political compass

being opposed to purple haired feminazis does not make someone a a nationalist or patriot, it barely makes someone a conservative.

every man with two braincells to bang together is against modern feminism and other assorted leftardation.

> Go shill your 1488 somewhere else. It never worked and it will never work.

it indeed never worked because you are cowards afraid of being called nazis.
and it doesn't surprise me that a cuck like you would be opposed to the 14 words.

>afraid of being called nazi

No cause I'm not a nazi I'm a revolutionary conservative populist. Do I agree with the preservation of the ethno-cultural heritage of Europe? Yes. Do I beleive in national socialism? No.

Bring back the monarchy, smash socialism and use technology to give the people a voice via plebiscite. Get all the middle class lawyer class assholes out of power.

>expecting a generation to go instant 1488 after 70 years of indoctrination and NPD losers showing them that the right obviously is retarded
Hans, bitte.

>it's not our fault that we look like retards to you, you're just afraid to look like the lefty propaganda of a nazi
I am not opposed to the 14 words, I am just in favour of packaging them accordingly for a new generation. Calling everyone with a sense of realism a cuck is exactly the reason germany IS cucked into oblivion. Purity spinal into your own death, Hans.

>I'm a revolutionary conservative populist.

that's too long, we'll shorten that to nazi in the article.

>Bring back the monarchy

and this retard has the stones to shittalk natsocs, hilarious.

>unironically suck nazi cock
ihr verfickten deutschen untermenschen müsst alle sterben. please america, bomb cuckmany like you did in ww2. death to all germans, death to germanistan.

>it indeed never worked because you are cowards afraid of being called nazis.

youtube.com/watch?v=4cOJiQcbnnc&feature=youtu.be&t=9m11s

Germany should go back to a similar confederation to the heiliges römisches reich. More autonomy for the regions with a monarch and reichsheer for defence and border security.

yeah homo, how about it. you take me in the pit and win, i join your cuck gang, whatever. if i win you stop this retarded alt lite shit and, more importantly, stop masturbating to animu!

and war between them every 5 years where every outer power joins in. genius idea.

The right rises.

>It never worked and it will never work

Except it did work. In fact it worked so well it's banned worldwide.

jesus you german cucks...

"why doesnt he just shut up like i do when mahmud fucks me in the ass? Wow I'm so smart and not a cuck at all"

Is that a Japanese officer in Finland? I've never heard of such a thing before.

The idea, Nationalism, works for every nation, which makes it dangerous for (((some))). The way Nationalism has been brought up in germany has never worked thanks to the kikes having a easy game destroying a group which has been so far away from the normies.

Normies are our human shields. It's easy to bash some neo-nazi shouting shit against niggers, it's not so easy to bash a young conservative women or an successfull entrepreneur tending to the right. You have to swift the normies and make it appealing to make a real movement work.

Look at him. Humour and good looks is what is appealing. Being successfull is sexy. Make Nationalism sexy again. Make woman follow you and the next generation will be brought up in your like. Be the best you can be and check your autism from time to time.

>The idea, Nationalism, works for every nation
When I've said this, normies have been at least somewhat receptive. Add to it an anti-imperialist twist, which I genuinely believe in, and explain the nonsensical borders, in e.g. Africa, left over from the colonial empires, and they really start to get interested. Then nail it home with feel-good rhetoric about all cultures having a right to exist in peace, and BAM! you've got a fresh young nationalist on your hands.

My Fellow Hans', that's the how-to-Nationalism right there.

Slightly triggered by this pic because the Lapua Movement was a joke and had no chance of power, nor expertise should they have managed to get it.

Read "Hitler's Revolution Iddeology" and you'll see that German civilians were being gunned down, and passenger planes flakked. Poland was already attacking Germany, they just didn't declare it.

Do you have a better symbol? Always open for improvement.

Not really. I've always been leery of Nordfront, since we're not Scandi, yet they operate here. The True Finns are a fairly cucky/downright dumb populist party (with a big 'p', they say anything for votes). Smaller groups are jokes.

The closest thing I can think of is pic and link related, though idk how much other Finns on here appreciate them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Karelia_Society

Thanks for the info. It's always difficult to find a banner which everyone appreciates and is willing to stand under. But still I guess the message is clear.

This is, what the right should have tried in the political parties never talk about anything H. related never mention a certain state and it's people. Just push your programm one step at a time. The left has done it the same way, if your ask to disavow say, that this is not nessesary, because you don't have time for extensive studies and more important thinks to do, or talk about left wing violance instead.

Cringe, the picture.

> Sellner

Before the Identitarian Movement in France and Austria was a thing, Sellner was active in circles of the National Resistance.
The Identitarian Movement can't and won't take an apologetic stand towards NatSoc in any shape or form. If they do so, they'd have the government on their arse even more than they have it now.
The Identitarian Movement is probably the best entry point for a youth to become active in metapolitics, attend lectures at the Institute for State-Policy (IfS) and some RL trolling against SJW and Leftist policies.

To make it clear: The Jew won't be named, althought everybody might know the truth,

>that flag