GIFTED & TALENTED PROGRAM. MK ULTRA? WHAT WAS IT?

How many of you were in this program growing up? I remember the GT & Discovery classes, the covered windows because they didnt want kids seeing what we do in there, the weird flash cards, the strange questionnaires and all the science experiments.

I've recently heard a lot of similarities from other people who were in these programs...We all seem to have family with lots of military connections and dead really well on standardized tests, etc.

There also seems to be other similarities like having been pressured into playing sports your whole life

meeting a soulmate that appeared out of nowhere and then left suddenly or randomly

They also tend to have paranoid ideas of being watched by the groups that groomed them while growing up

Does anyone have more to say about this interesting and schizo idea?

To be honest the similarities between all participants is so crazy it freaks me out

I was in GATE, AMA.

I got kicked out from tons of those programs! :D

when i was a kid i voluntarily said no to take these programs
i don't know why i did, i don't know why my parents let me even say no
but i knew even at that age they were of no help to me

The Gifted & Talented program was only in my elementary school and yeah it was weird. They would pull us out of our regular classes and put us in a room and we'd solve logic puzzles with toothpicks and shit. It had to be some kind of experiment or study. It was 2nd grade at one school, then I moved schools every year after that and never heard of another program after that.

I was too. Do you have the occipital bun thing?

I was a GATE student

With genius comes madness

It was segregation 2.0. To get into the program, you had to take an IQ test. That weeded out all the black kids. The GAT classes were basically whites-and-asians-only, but with a quantified basis for discrimination. Such programs were popular in the South with parents who wanted the well-funded educational opportunities that public schools could afford but without the blacks ruining things.

Grooming and Recruiting. Happens all the time.

Pick an agency.

we did really well on standardized tests and all tests basically becaaaaauuuuuse we're Gifted numbnuts

I was in ALPHA in middle school. As far as I can tell, it's the same thing with different acronym. I learned things I didn't see later until college. There were 6 of us out of about 300 students.

I have heard that either

a.) there were two groups of kids who were observed, GT kids who were in the class and "GT kids" who were left with the regular population

b.) that they put us in the classes for a certain a mount of time and did what they needed and then put us back into "normal" settings and watched what happened

I just think it is bizarre how they could have coordinated this with all of my teachers and what not while growing up...The "discoveries" program went on into middle school and then stopped..All of the kids who I knew who went through this kind of stuck together and they all seemed to have anxiety problems and became "outcasts" though they did pretty well in school still, some did super well, some did really bad though..

false.

remember having black kids and indians in my own version.

Sort of, the back of my skull curves down and inward then juts back out.

my school scheduled only gifted students to be in the same classes as well

fuuck, I participated in a magnet program like that in middle school. I was taken to a bungalow located at the other side of campus, it had tinted black windows. We had this "psychologist" lady ask us weird questions and showing us weird flash cards too, I remember she had us put on wrap around sunglasses like the ones old people wear to the beach and sit us facing the wall and she would pull up cards and asks us to guess the pattern of the card. I also remember having to put on the same sunglasses to hear these weird sound and beeps similar to the hearing tests but different, she would then ask us weird questions and have us try to guess the pattern of cards after hearing them. We did this for like 3 weeks straight, once a day and it ended, weird as fuck.

Growing up in CT we had the same thing but it was called the TAG (Talented And Gifted) Program. A lot of what OP and others say on this thread spooked me out but I think a large basis for getting accepted was, of course, testing. Still, It's odd that a school district like mine that had little money could fund a program to let kids solve autism tests and go on field trips to promote multi-culturalism.

Didn't Ted kaczynski get fucked up in one of these programs?

Waste of time. Just like school as a whole is for any truly gifted child.

I don't remember any hispanic or black kids in my program. I don't remember any asian kids in that elementary school at all.

I guess it can be explained by IQ distribution.

Or it was a social experiment and the all-white programs were the control.

I was, but no military connection for me.

That would be during College, in a series of studies.

Ok i was in this wtf r u guys getting on about now

Similar experiences in my GT program, but I'm not left with the impression that the implementation in my case was much beyond catering to the proclivities of smart kids. Sure they planted ideas about the transhumanist future and all that, but so did regular school.

I would rate it overall as a healthy and positive experience.

Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention that I'm Hispanic. The program ended for me when I transferred to Middle School a year later.

Oh shit I have that.

those tests are retard level easy lol

I dont know if there really is a connection but Ive heard about this occipital bun thing brough up several times and I noticed that the trait seems to come from neanderthals.

the two groups with highest neanderthal % are asian and white

I have doubts about the occipital bun thing being relevant though but it seems interesting

>dead really well on standardized tests
>dead really well
>dead
I was in GATE in California up until 5th grade when my parents got divorced. Then my mom moved us to a different state and I never got back into the program. I started 6th grade in 1999.

I was invited but I didn't go, it was in suquamish. I live 6 minutes from my old schools, why bother waking up. These threads make me regret my decision less.

I was. They wanted me in sooner but I acted out too much. We learned about China and Russia in grade school. They kept the lights turned down low so it was comfy.

Parents were at RAF Alconbury from 91 to 93, I was in the 5th/6th grade TAG class that user mentioned above. Shit was weird, yo. Yes we were probably the smartest kids in the school, but why the curtains and the excessive testing?

very few of us were "gifted" enough to progress to the later programs I was AMA

That's the back of the skull where the spine meets? I have that.

Remember when they would check the kids for lice in elementary school? Maybe they were actually looking for that bun.

school as a whole isn't a waste of time for gifted people, i think you mean american public school is


looking back on how shitty it was as an adult makes you realize why our students tend to do so poorly compared to other countries students. in general public school just dumbs itself down to the level of the lowest common denominator of kids and teachers. schools here are a mess riddled with tons of problems.

Checking in. I got into this program in 6th grade and stayed in it all the way through middle school. I don't remember if it was in high school also. My standardized test scores were too high to be in regular classes, so they have me a test to see if I would be a "fit" for the program. The students were placed in isolation rooms and given tasks to complete. However, I was a horrible student until I got to college. I barely graduated high school with a 1.3 gpa. Needless to say, my counselors didn't know what the fuck my problem was.

No you schizo, you were just in a military area where obviously most of the students would have military connections. And no doubt the better their parents did, so did their offspring, meaning the higher ups' children would be more likely to be in the gifted programs.

The whole point of being GT was that you were smart and "unique", so no shit you did well on standardized tests. We all did.

Pretty stupid, handicapping yourself in a school system already set at a level for the most retarded.

It's just designed to make you think differently and out of the box.


I was in GT classes from kindergarten to 8th grade, since they don't offer those things in high school. There was a whole intermediate school dedicated to the program, and something like 150 kids per grade (6-8) went to it out of the few thousands per grade in the district.

>Remember when they would check the kids for lice in elementary school? Maybe they were actually looking for that bun.


holy fuck

I'm not denying that it was dis-proportionally white and asian. I'm just saying of the different years spent in those programs I've seen a black kid or two and an indian kid

I got into GATE as a child but did not attend the program or transfer to their recommended schools. According to my mom, they never told her that it was a gifted program so she never had any reason to transfer me- which I find fucking bizarre because how the fuck did they get her to have me take the tests? I have zero recollection of the time but she said they brought me to a room and did tests for a while, some she could monitor and some she couldn't. Apparently I said they had me play with blocks, put stuff together, answer questions, guess stuff behind cards, etc.

I ended up getting into another GT program around age 11 and the process to get and remain in the program was really annoying. They had tons of mandatory leadership development courses, a weird ball in the senior year of highschool where you dressed up and benefactors would randomly single you out, ask questions and maybe hire you for their companies and it seems like half the alum from my contingent ended up in government jobs. Jokes on them because I flaked and now I'm a NEET.

I wonder what OP is trying to imply here.

>Remember when they would check the kids for lice in elementary school? Maybe they were actually looking for that bun.

fuck dude

Mine was disproportionally white, but so was our town.

My high school didn't offer any continuation of the program either. From listening to teachers and administrators talking to each other, it seemed like they were test running the program to see if it would be worth doing or not.

I did later learn however that I scored so highly that I was in a group of students the district was keeping track of and assigning to particular teachers, catering to with changing up lesson plans, and trying to groom to be star students.

This strange. I was apart of one in Arabi Park Elementary. We were in a seperate building on the school property. It was called the GT Program. But mine was in Louisiana

I progressed all the way up until 8th grade. The high school I transferred to was in a different state and didn't have any similar program

what kind of books did you have to read?

JESUS FUCK

I was in GATE from first to 8th grade. They pile on double the paper work, and make you read an extra book or two. In my case I switched schools every two years but I had roughly the same people in my class.

All the other kids basically expect you to think you're hot shit, and over half of the gate kids resorted to degenerate stuff in order to impress the hordes.

first time I saw pot was in GATE. First time I saw a crack pipe was in GATE. First time I saw a gun in school was in GATE. Know 2-3 girls that were sexually active in 4th grade from GATE.

90% of them ended up insane liberal SJW's and now all the people who used to cheat off me in science call me a science denier. Pretty neat

>very few of us were "gifted" enough to progress to the later programs I was AMA
>I progressed all the way up until 8th grade.
are you guys CIA? NSA? black cicada project? bilderberg?

Berenstein Bears

True i think i pnly had 1 or twp blacks kids in my program but most of use were hispanics with white skin though..

For us they were easy, yeah. I always got perfect scores and my teachers would act weird towards me after. Shit was simple. It's hard to comprehend how stupid average people are.

Early GATEr here. Started at age 5 in 1982. Continued til we met with some strange dude in E. Washington state in the early 90's.

Green eyes
Occipital bun
Only kid in the entire school bussed to this special program 1-2 x a week and 1 weekend per month.
Military family backgroud.
Excelled in Science, Math, Reading, Spelling and early Computer Programming (BASIC).

AMA.

The soulmate thing is very fucking strange. I'm deeplty connected to some girl with short brown hair I met once then vanished.

Anyway, the only thing of note is that the E. Washington guy whose name slips my mind until I see it then it leaves again, taught our group of 10 to manipulate groups into doing what we wanted without us being the obvious "leader" of the group.

It was fun to do in classrooms in elementary/middle school but I didn't give a fuck by High School.

Now I work in a fucking porno shop. Thanks GATE.

>are you guys CIA? NSA? black cicada project? bilderberg?
Bogdanoff

why is the bun so important?
Why do they need to know?

Also, GT here.
In Middle School, we had to do a fingerprint "lab" in science, which was easy and we didn't learn much.
We got pads and we stuck ALL OUR FINGERS IN and put them on the paper. I kind of knew what was going on, but even these GT kids couldn't understand.

Being GT doesn't mean you aren't a sheepling.
I never turned it in. Showed my dad, and never trusted my teacher again.

Anyone else done these "fingerprint labs" or activities in school?

Gifted and talented Cornell grad, now in military staff, AMA

Post of the month award

That's pretty retarded user. The government takes fingerprints if you're arrested and when you're born anyways, I don't see how you think you're "one-upping" the system here.

You will now read the key word.

Xylophone.

The target is Donald Trump.

not a whole lot of emphasis was put into reading but a lot more gets put on puzzles
they have deeper programs for the gifted and talented of the gifted and talented so to speak
that's where you get pulled out of school all together if possible

for the 3 years that I went to public school, I was in the TAG program, then the Laureate program (which I think was the same). Mostly logic problems and some weird challenges (like a balsa support - the contest was to see how much weight it could hold). Strangely, in the 5th grade (Laureate program, we watched the Manchurian Candidate).

I was reading a recent article about two possibly Denisovan skulls found in China, and there seems to be a shift in the scientific journalists' attitudes towards Neanderthals away from casting them as stupid brutes. The article even mentioned Neanderthals were the first to wear jewelry, which I was unaware of. It seems they are beginning to see that a splash of Neanderthal DNA and environments with deadly winters are the common denominator for more intelligent origin populations.

The area wasn't military. There weren't many kids who had parents and grandparents from areas other than deeper military.

this seems so likely its insane lol

Different departments of the gvmt don't have that info, so they get it from other means.

I remember my middle school making up an award for me one of the years...it was awkward af during the honor roll and after even the highest graded students were called up I was called up after that for some "presidential" award and I had the same high grades as the high honor roll...

i think the "make them feel unique/special" style conditioning is a real thing and I'm glad I washed myself of that kind of thinking

I also took those weird binaural sound tests, WTF? Are we sleeper agents?

I did a fingerprint thing as part of a "fair" the local police did as a safety awareness thing, so in the event that I was "kidnapped or lost" (read: dead and disfigured) they could possibly identify me.

shit, i was in that.
they didnt teach us math

Now that you mention it there was this one overachieving Indian girl who was ridiculously good at math. She did disappear from school entirely, but I forget the alleged reason.

I don't recall any of the other supersmart kids doing anything more than getting the same sort of special attention I did.

hmmm.. so they were trying to procure children for the elite

makes a lot of sense

The military did not have a presence in my town, but a nuclear power station did, as well as Rice University. That about covers the background of the kids involved in mine.

GT was fun, we got some extra field trips to museums and such and read some good books.

Yeah, because they can't just request it?

And what would fingerprints do anyway? Identify you if you're dead?


Well I never met any who were in the military. We had a couple astronaut's children, growing up around NASA, but they were hardly the majority.

We did things with sounds, morse code, 100 vials of various smells to identify and other strange shit. Didn't know everyone did the sound stuff.

No, I'm not talking about the standard in-school hearing tests. It was different.

>binaural sound tests
the fuck, I only had to take a CogAT test

military/dodea

so basically the gov had the ability to mainline their pet projects unto us

I started gt/tag in like 2nd/3rd grade all the way until 8th

had to take iq tests every year and they really pushed you to be creative and artistic. I think they were trying to breed liberal ideologues or something.

neanderthals carried the genes for art and music..
they also had a primitive manufacturing process for making a sort of tar/glue for making tools
Europeans got the most neanderthal genes of all humans
neanderthals were also bigger and stronger as well

I was in the Virginia gifted cluster program.

I was taken out of class to take super long tests.

It turns out I hate attention and being singled out, so most of the operant conditioning stuff backfired on me, and caused me to avoid doing anything too much to be noticed. lol

Lifetime underachiever now.

I took the test but apparently scored so low they called my parents to ask if anything was wrong with me.

Everything you said applies to me.

Shieeeeeeeeeet, nigga u into something

And why would they?

Unlikely. I was a NEET who joined the military and did work with a security clearance before separating and moving to Indiana to work as an insurance agent.

Also, I'm non-white so I'll never make it up the "ladder" once the alt-right movement goes into full swing.

well what part of the brain is near that bun...

I remember Bloom's Taxonomy and making hyperbolic paraboloids out of coathangers and pantyhose. Just GT things, OP.

No cool ESP card experiments.
No remote viewing sessions.

the part that controls ur dick....

Yeah I hated public school and used to dream about instead going to a school that wasn't actively trying to dumb me down and indoctrinate me. Public schools need to just focus only on learning. PhysEd is definitely part of a well-rounded education but having school sports is a waste of time and money that should be put into learning.

There was a program in elementary named TARGET for the smarter kids. All we did in it was more hands on things and I distinctly remember mixing corn starch and water to get a pseudo solid substance. Was mostly just better science stuff.
I just thought I'd bring that up

What the fuck same here, I'm in training for something with a TSS/SCI

>DoD, DARPA, TLAs (Triple letter agencies), or whatever shadowy govt organization asking for fingerprints of minors with no due cause

user.. as a kid, would you give your prints, a means of identification that can be used for anything, including Social Engineering and monitoring?

I remember in like 2nd or 3rd grade they asked us to design our own neighborhood and set the rules and style of housing. We were the "government" and had the ability to debate and come up with rules.

I've done GT in multiple schools, and the one thing that carried from each school was that we had to sit in the dark and listen to introspective/classical music to "warm up" our brains.

fuck, I have that.

I was a part of the b group. They had us do 2 two week sessions every half year, then send us back to the rest of the school population.

I remember in like 2nd or 3rd grade they asked us to design our own neighborhood and set the rules and style of housing. We were the "government" and had the ability to debate and come up with rules.

I've done GT in multiple schools, and the one thing that carried from each school was that we had to sit in the dark and listen to introspective/classical music to "warm up" our brains.

GATE was just a first step screening filter senpai.
There's other higher levels to it. Boys/Girls state is one.

I basically would ace any multiple choice test you put in front of me even shit I didn't really study like foreign languages because I was extremely good at intuiting the wrong answers and eliminating them.

Eventually got brought to CIA headquarters for the good will hunting treatment. I said no cause it was W. Bush back then in charge but I'd easily say yes today.

very very few kids ever make it to the end of the program I'm not exactly sure how far I made it but less than a hundred kids make it to the end every five years or so

What do you mean? I am curious because I was put in programs like this all the time growing up and I moved around often and every time they would test me and stick me into the "classes". Obviously Im not a genius lol. This is what was always so odd to me.

I just heard about this last night and its been world shattering lol...So many similarities between me and other posts. I can link some older threads where people go more in depth on their own experiences. You can see even by the comment sin this thread, something od happened and even weirder it seems like a lot of the participants are commenting on this website often.

Sorry for the wall of text

This, holy fuck same here.

Then there were the exercises where you had listen to the guy talk with the lights off and your head down.

wtf
in a dark room?

jeez user, dont tell me your dick felt tingly afterwards

So instead they'll invade the public school system and fake a science experiment so that they get all these precious children's fingerprints. Yeah, that makes more sense.

What monitoring or social engineering could they possibly get from your fingerprints? Are you okay user?

Fuck me this thread, it sounds like something out of FEAR...

This thread has me feeling for an occipital bun. How do I eliminate false positives? Because I'm sure I have one but need to verify because I might be nuts.