Ethnic-nationalism

How do you plan to ethically achieve ethnic-nationalism in a country like America which has so many non-whites? This is my main qualm with ethnic-nationalism. In a country like Estonia, which is 99.8% white, it's easy to achieve an ethno-state. But in America it would require mass-deportations/genocide of citizens, or perhaps a balkanization of the country, each with ethno-states for each ethnicity, which are all obviously impractical and immoral.
>inb4 it's ok they're niggers, lllooolll!!
seriously you're retarded if you think, if you can't seriously answer this question you'll never even come close to achieve your goal.

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by removing the word "ethically" from your rant.

done

So you guys are pretty much just evil?

Re-organize the united states in to a confederation of ethno-states. Still one country, but groups of states come together to form ethno states that all control immigration into their state group.

Trade between state groups would have a tariff system that made sure there was never a trade deficit or surplus for any state group. Other than that there would be free trade.

You Have To Go Outback, Mate.

in europe civil war is inevitable, fascism will arise and reorder europe, you just have to survive the first clashes and win the war

>Estonia, which is 99.8% white

Yes, mr 8.9%?

Genocide niggers, deport mexicans. Leave any sane person alone aslong as they fight for you.

There are states that are 90%+ white. Most non-whites are congregated in the cities.

We need to take control of a few states and end all welfare (at least temporarily). Many of the non-whites will leave.

From there, we can pay the remnants to relocate elsewhere.

How does Yugoslavia or the Soviet Union plan to dissolve itself? I mean, the can't just fracture peacefully along ethnic lines or wage an eliminationaist conflict. Neither could ever happen oh wit they both already di go fuck yourself you sorry excuse for a Kiwi even Canada has better shitposts than you filthy maori cocksucker die

forceful deportations are ethical if an alternative is them getting lynched.

Its impossible in America.

Best we can do is remind whites not to breed with niggers

America as a whole will never be a white ethnostate, but we could have small ethnostates within the country.

There are areas of the country which are still almost entirely white, think Northern New England, Appalachia, the Upper Midwest. Keep these areas white and they essentially become ethno-states. If Trump is able to deport illegals and reduce legal immigration, while at the same time granting more power to the states, regional identities could develop and thrive.

Some parts are lost cause though. I don't expect places like NYC or LA to be white ever again. And that's fine, we don't need every area to be white.

US is 81% white removing 3 southern states

Try again

Tfw mud

So if a sane black person (admittedly few) fought beside you to reclaim the country and clear out the niggers and Mexicans do they get a pass?

What this guy said is pretty accurate, Im not one of those dooms day guys but in all honesty I cant see these countries continuing being democratically ran. 49% of these countries dont want the 51% telling them how their lives will be dictated. Before people were open to this style of government because there wasnt really any crisis or major issues going on (yea communism was spreading but the shit was kept at foot level for the most part) now its just spiraling out of fucking control and countries are equally divided going bat shit insane at each other. 8-10 years ago if you asked me if civil war was realistic in America or Europe id say no way, now i think its very very possible.

Black nation along the black belt
Kick out ilegal spics
Fully integrate the legal ones

It's absolutely hilarious when you see burgers pushing for ethnic nationalism. You're about to be the minority in this country you fucking morons. There is literally no logical way you can turn things around. The "day of the rope" is never going to come and you know it.

It's all larp. There will never be an ethnostate without a civil war of some sort. Anyone pushing this shit never has any practical solutions and is only peddling this shit for donations and notoriety.

>preventing your race from extinction is evil

You don't need an ethno-state to preserve a race.

What you need to do to preserve your race is quit shitposting on Sup Forums and go make some babies you dumb sperg.

I already have children.
Just don't want them around beaners because they see other children like them as their brothers and sisters.
There is nothing to fear, if we are one.
Can you leave your door unlocked at all times?

And of course you want your people to be around my people so you can steal.

which states?

Its not evil to preserve your race. Its every races goal and duty. We just will win. These people have their own countries to go back to where can white americans go?

This guy gets it. Wouldnt be that hard desu if the welfare system is destroyed

>which has so many non-whites?
This place is also huge as fuck and extremely segregated. We've perfected the art of hypocritically worshiping MLK as holier than Jesus while also staying as far away from shitskins as one's income allows.

All that's needed to achieve ethnonationalism is balkanization. The elites can run their haciendas of spic and nigger slaves from their gated communities while the rest of us can move to the midwest if things get too bad.

That implies that I care about my people.

>There is nothing to fear, if we are one.
Nice delusion.

um
europe?
retard

Right? Im waiting for an answer also, fuck you guy im an American. In my eyes im an American over latino or w.e term you wanna use.
Tldr i love my country and will fight for her.

>doesn't even care about his own people
>EY ESE YOU SHOULD BE ACCEPTING OF OTHER RACES OR YOU EVIL
Yeah....sounds about right.
Shitskins have the same amount of logic as women and children.

>ethically achieve an ethno-state
Impossible. Why would you ask such a stupid question? Unless you just want to slide the board. No reply for (You) op. You'll have to work for those shekels.
Fuck I hate shills.

>clings to a white country because his own people are so shit, and by abandoning them becomes even worse than shit
Ooh....Wasn't expecting to cringe this hard today....

im guessing california, mississippi, georgia?

He's still conscious

He's
Still
Conscious.

When did I call you evil?

All I'm saying is that the concept of an ethno-state to preserve a race is dumb. All you gotta do is have white babies.

He's all right, just needs to jog in place to loosen up.

How is Heaven on Earth dumb?
Why would I want to be around other races who don't even give a fuck about their own kind?

>Says the fucking african

Your people can also stop coming to my country and knocking our women up.

>How is MY concept of a Utopia dumb?
Gee, I dunno man.

In any case, this entire argument is pointless. A white ethnostate will never happen, so whatever. Hold on to that dream, user. And don't let go.

Sorry my grandparents country refuses to get its shit together, i could give not a fuck about "muh wite nation" im not white, i love the offerings this land has to offer,i love how the world hates us yet they keep coming. Also growing up being proud every morning to the pledge will always be in my heart. Call it cringey atleast ill never be caught with a pink pussy hat.

In theory, you could do it relatively "ethically" by balkanizing part of it off for white people only. .
For example, Montana is a big state area wise and there are only like 4,000 black people living there.
If it was made enough of an issue in people's minds and actually makes it into the political arena, then in theory the government could step in and pay off all of these non-whites a decent sum to leave the state, declare Montana the white ethnostate, then charge the new white inhabitants a small tax every year in order to pay for the buy out.
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BEHOLD..
TREMBLE WITH FEAR BROWN MANLETS, A GOD WITH GOLDEN HAIR OF THE SUN AND BLUE EYES OF THE SKIES STANDS BEFORE YOU. CLEARLY IT IS NATURE THAT DISFAVORS YOU AND NOT ANYONE ELSE'S FAULT YOUR COUNTRIES SUCK

1) america becomes a biethnic-nationalist state. This was working very well at one point, the black family was rapidly growing stronger and they were moving into the middle class in greater numbers. Then socialism fucked that.

Build infrastructure for industry in mexico and turn it over to the government. Let them build their own ethno-nationalist state but they have to take the spics back.

Gooks are still small portion of america and they are biased against almost as hard as whites (asian immigrants are at least because they actually have a work ethic)

Re-industrialise america and stop shifting factory jobs oversees.

>Self preservation is evil when people want to stop the genocide being committed against them
Nice meme

>your countries suck
But my country is the same as yours, user.

the enemy has ZERO problems straight up murdering us in the streets.
if you bitch and moan about muh ethics, you have already given up. might as well roll over adn die on the spot.

Brown cucks needa step it up.
Looking pathetic latching onto us like a toddler.
Just remain hygienic and fucking get food.
Your country is full of brown people and that is why you have no pride and can't understand why I have mine.

Why do i have to fear? Its been a public recorded fact that the latinos love Donald Trump

IQ nationalism is a better idea.

Set up genius sperm banks to increase the IQ of citizens.

>full of brownies
Im not german sempai

>Your country is full of brown people
Yeah, it is.

So its true, new zealanders really are faggots

>Why do i have to fear? Its been a public recorded fact that the latinos love Donald Trump

>A couple southern states with a bunch of concentrated spics and nogs is the entirety of America
Nice try, Juan. I was talking about Puerto Rico, our little bitch who we still give a chance to improve and impress us but you disappoint us every time.
Why can't you guys be like that Japanese?
Literally you all love White countries because your own people are so terrible, but we don't like you either. Learn to love your own people like the Japanese.
And I don't give a fuck if you're willing to suck White cock, if you were in Japan you'd be wanting to suck Japanese cock for fear of deportation.
How can something so skin-crawling exist?
Utterly pathetic and shameful.

My fucking God,
Non-Whites are cringey and pathetic.
Jesus fuck.
The nerve of these people and their double-standards.
How can they be so negligent, selfish, foolish, and downright evil?

>all this non-argument and deflection
My country is the United States of America, user. You cannot refute this.

Nah we just own you.
You're unincorporated U.S. territory.
And what does that have to do with anything? You're in mud town with mud people and I'm in Sky Land with Sky people. That doesn't change the situation one bit, it rather enforces the ideology that I'm pushing.

>And what does that have to do with anything?
I dunno man, you're the one that brought it up here Also, we're holding a referendum on statehood this summer. Statehood will win, as the only other choice is independence. I hope you're ok with having a 51st state full of spics in about 5 years. And with the 90k spics that migrated to the mainland last year. And the 100k that are estimated to migrate this year.

It can't happen in America, and there's no moral historical ground for it to happen in America
Despite how much you want to deny it, niggers built the white house
Not 20 years since Jamestown did niggers start joining us
Jews came quick too
From the very beginning, although the ideals were created by Europeans, America was built by a multiethnic group of people

However, theres no real moral ground against gassing the kikes and the mudslimes in europe

Every white guy I know including myself voted for trump. The Dems have good reason to want more non whites in America. It's so fucking obvious.

The majority of spics are illegals and shall be deported.
Your country still sucks, and it's U.S. Territory, does that fucking fact shock you into doing better as a people? Fuck's sake develop SOME sort of innovative culture...
Keep dreaming Paco, if only you weren't so needy, pathetic, and hating of your own people, and race, we could have been friends.
I like to say spics and niggers on here but I am friends with people of all races but they are redpilled and would be down to segregate because they are so proud of their people and race.

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where is this girl
dox her

>The majority of spics are illegals and shall be deported.
By who? Amnesty Don? lel

>and hating of your own people, and race
>because they are so proud of their people and race.
Can you tell me why I should be proud of my people and race? I mean you literally just said that this island is a shithole. Why should I be proud of being associated with the orchestrators of such failure?

>lel America doesn't have laws against illegal immigration
Just watch.
You should be proud of your race because it exists and is just starting out. I'd love to be in a wild west setting like Africa or Puerto Rico where I could go and build things from scratch.
You just have to stop being so lazy and start the journey to making your country great! Of course it's a lot of hard work and that's why I would enjoy doing it and you probably haven't. So no one should feel sorry for you or let you anywhere near our country.

>I'd love to be in a wild west setting like Africa or Puerto Rico where I could go and build things from scratch.
You have such a romanticized view of the world, I'm almost jealous.

>start the journey to making your country great!
I really do not care about making my 'country' great. All I care about is providing for myself and loved ones. If my efforts to accomplish that contribute to the betterment of the island as a whole, then fine. But I could not care less about my average countryman, as they are shit.

>So no one should ...let you anywhere near our country.
You literally cannot stop me, m8.

There's your problem! You only care about yourself! That's not how civilization works, little buddy!
>can't stop me
I don't have to. You're piss poor and surrounded by water.

>You're piss poor and surrounded by water.
One-way flights are like $100 man. I pissed away 3 times that last week on a PS4.

>That's not how civilization works, little buddy!
I know that. But can you tell me why I should care about the average citizen here? Keep in mind the average IQ is 88, they glorify wealth and status, and vote against anyone that threatens their gibsmedats, despite the fact that gibsmedats are a huge part of why this place is a shithole in the first place.

>they glorify wealth and status
set an example by teaching them that they can attain those through hard/intuitive work
>average IQ is 88
Perfect for labor jobs
>one way flights are $100
and? food is more expensive here, you think you're just going to get a home? you'd be dead or jail within one week of being here.

>food is more expensive here
Yeah, you really have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm done here. You can claim victory in this discussion if you want, I don't care.

Yeah, considering you just paid $100 and have to make your way towards a supermarket as well as find a place to stay, for you, having access to food is going to be more expensive for you, meaning your stay here in implausible as well as that of your people.
Damn this was cringey as fuck. Didn't know people could stoop so low.

>that pic

what a breath of fresh air. Good Lord.

>killing or physically removing people against their will is moral when my own race can't stop voluntarily breeding with others