Is the Left dead for good?

Disclaimer ahead, my post is super depressing and more of a way to vent out with my pessimism.

Over the past few weeks I've come to the conclusion that progressive politics are just dead. What I mean by that is that they just aren't even "relevant" into the discussion anymore. Today even the most ridiculously classical liberal ideas are blasted as "insane" and "illogical" by conservative (and liberal) scum. The sheer stupidity out there is absolutely depressing. I was on twitter today and someone retweeted this.

Keep in mind I live in California, not some rural area of Mississippi or whatever. These are stupid fucking white kids with an IQ of 40 actually posting this crap; never mind the hysterical ignorance and mental gymnastics that it would take to both be a "Patriot dat supports de troops" and also support the United State's only separatist revolt that ultimately killed 300,000+ U.S soldiers.

I don't think there is even the possibility in the short run for leftist momentum. And the saddest part is, even the movements were there are some strains of "hope" ("Occupy", "BLM") are instantly rejected by the majority of people. Historically I don't think this has ever happened. I mean, the left has always been marginalized, persecuted by the state and so forth, but the SPD in Germany was the biggest party there even when it was outlawed; the labour movement in England was strong enough to prevent imperialist wars and there was a genuine fear from the ruling class towards workers. Today its nothing but derision (and rightfully so btw) because of the sheer weakness of the movement.

The problem is I don't see any way forward. Accelerationism has failed. Neoliberalism was just that, and it has only caused further right shifts (everywhere). I think for the first time in American politics, neo-nazi movements actually outnumber the total number of communists/anarchists in the country. The one method of organization that the left typically fell back to, Unions, is dead.

The left became remarkably vile under Obama. Despite the fact that I disagree with lots of right wing stuff I still post here all the time because the left is so unbelievably fucking repulsive to me now that I want nothing to do with any of it.

I really think the whole of the left needs to be completely burned to the ground before it has any hope of ever being respectable in any way again.

For good? LMAO

I am not going to read the rest of what you said, but you need to remember that the strong majority of youngsters are liberal and minorities will outnumber whites soon enough.

The question is when will Texas and the rest of the south turn blue, giving democrats the presidency for the next century?

>He actually believes the left can keep on their current path and not die out.

Boy aren't you going to have a bad time.

The old Left was dumb enough to believe that bourgeois liberal elites were ever on their side, despite constant warnings by just about every Marxist and Anarchist thinker. Now the Right is reorienting itself toward working class interests and skepticism of capitalism, leaving the Democrats to defend the American plutocracy and the increasingly unpopular identity politics. They did it to themselves though and deserve everything.

Get beyond left and right. Look at reality. In c21st. People are tribal. Egalitarianism is bullshit. Justice is important. Race matters. White culture is valuable. Tradition is valuable and needs to be preserved and discovered.

There was hope in occupy. None in blm.

Name US neonazi movements with any traction? I cant think of one

This, I was a 'liberal' but they are in a self destructive purity spiral. They have zero answers.

The right wing, as a result, gets a election or two to redeem themselves.

Progressive != classical liberal. You're retarded OP. I classical liberal is a libertarian - in other words, an American conservative without the religious bullshit.

>One group of people burning the US flag, which is protected under free speech.
>Another group is waving a traitorous flag of a nation that betrayed the union.
If you don't know what is worse you're honestly a cuck. Burning the flag does make you a dick, but it's not as bad as waving a treasonous flag.

Both A and B are cucks. As is people who take very long to figure think about which is "offensive." Cucks by definition, waste their lives which is exactly what you're doing when you give a shit about something that doesn't even matter.

>Treason doesn't matter.
>People defending and supporting treason doesn't matter.

The left is not dead. We are surely alive.

Also column B is far more offensive to me personally.

Well honestly I can't even fathom ever voting for a democrat. I never actually did but the party and in general the left in the U.S. has gone completely off the rails and has turned into a fringe ideology.

I can't understand people that can't see how fucked up the left wing is in our society today. If they don't change and they continue to push globalism, anti-white stuff, and this ridiculous social dominance of their values that they demand, I can't seriously see anyone taking the left seriously in our country

"minorities " are overwhelming conservative. The reality is they will support group interest over anything else (a conservative value). The left caters to them and they will back them politically until they dont need them anymore and then to the degree the "minority" group is illiberal they will supress them. In the case of Europe where muslims will take over most of them will likely be killed

Not even treason. It's just people holding a flag. Somebody wasting their life being offended by it. Another person is wasting their life being offended because someone else might take offense. And then on Sup Forums, we're wasting our lives giving it a second's though when we could be fapping instead.

>a classical liberal is a libertarian
That's pretty funny. Classical liberals were implicit white nationalists and puritan enough that they would go into fits of rage and throw all their ideals away if they saw what what personal behavior is acceptable these days and what global capitalism leads to.

I'd support a million treasons if it meant you would shut the fuck up

A, I'm a Cajun and a Nigger, and I'm proud of it.

lmfao get rekt

>inplying secession and treason are the same.

The States preceded the union. They had every right to leave a voluntary union they chose to enter.

Minorities tend to be socially conservative but economically leftist as fuck. The reason they don't vote for the right wing in the U.S. is because the democrats have tricked them into thinking the right wing will put them in chains.

The left has mastered the art of forcing tribalism. But it is always quite fascinating to see polls that show that most minorities tend to be very conservative. Especially on issues like gay marriage and drugs. They tend to be less liberal than whites when it comes to social values, but they vote for the left despite that because they have been tricked into believing that they will be oppressed if they don't. Victim complex is a horrible thing

No. You are a black man, not a nigger, southern pride.

Once you are a part of the union, there is no way to leave the union. There is no exit clause.

The "Left" supports open borders and the wholesale destruction of workers.

Didn't the left used to fight for workers?

The "Left" is now the war monger party, and wanted war with Russia.

Didn't the left used to be against wars?

What happened?

>Also column B is far more offensive to me personally.

Spineless cuck, the South shall rise again.

This right here. Economic issues are pretty much the only reason why minorities don't vote right. The left simply offers too many gibs

>being offended in 2017
sounds like a personal problem. Go back to tumblr.

The left moved more right and corporate like the 'pubs.
Liberalism may actually make a big comeback now that Hillary singlehandedly killed the neoliberal cause.

The current youth trend of liberalism is not only dying quickly, it's simply a phase. A phase no different than transgenderism.

Now if only we could diagnose them both as insanity.

the left was never pro workers or anti war. they are just a lying insider group.