I'm close to having my law degree, and I can tell you that what Trump has done is a legitimate case of libel.
Obama has shown considerable restraint against slander, considering he could have sued Trump into the grave over the birth certificate nonsense. But this is a far more serious charge, so whether Obama sits on it is the question of the hour.
I can tell you that unnamed sources and Twitter rants would not hold up in court, and you're looking at a settlement in the high double or triple digit millions given the magnitude of the positions involved.
What the fuck ever Star Jones. Enjoy your one reply.
Wyatt Flores
Also, just to clarify, the president can not be sued for actions taken as president, but he can still be sued for personal actions. This would obviously be classified as the latter and make him fair game.
Tyler Foster
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Kayden Gray
He isn't lying so no it isn't. Fucking dipshits like you have no sense of self respect and prove that a degree does not make a person intelligent by any means.
Aaron Moore
Never thought of it like this. He won't though. Makes him look petty.
Nathaniel Barnes
Manafort being wiretapped has nothing to do with Trump Tower.
Cooper Powell
So why is Obama showing restraint? If Trump's claims were truly libel, I'm sure Obama wouldn't hesitate to jump on it.
Dylan Cox
Because he has to consider the consequences of a former president of a different party suing the active president, and how that could affect the mid-term elections.
Benjamin Martin
Also Trump losing a libel lawsuit while acting as president is an impeachable offense.
Xavier Lee
Ain't exactly libel if it's a probable cause. Obama has been caught wiretapping several world leaders.
Joshua Turner
We will shine the light of truth in ALL DARK places of lies and deciet, we WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, Godspeed Mr Trump may the One True Infinite Creator guide and assist you in any and all steps of righteousness.
Evan Adams
You know that a president's name can reasonably be seen as referring to the president's administration?
Like: "Obama is doing X" doesn't necessarily mean Obama personally, can also mean his administration.
also sage
Aiden Watson
>being impeached over civil offenses
You should ask for your money back on that degree
Daniel Howard
No silly, they could cite his judgement as POTUS, misuse of government personnel and finances, etc.
Look up "high crimes and misdemeanor".
Jose Bailey
>birth certificate nonsense
Can't subvert me, kike.
Lincoln Sanchez
Practice law for a while and realize how hard it would be to actually get a court to agree with you.
Chase Wilson
Maybe Trump's son-in-law and daughter can, since you're so wary of jews.
Jaxon Taylor
One POTUS vs another POTUS? A open-shut case of a blatant lie to millions of people in an attempt to defame him and initiate unwarranted investigations?
It's not only a civil matter, it's an impeachable offense.
Juan Allen
Obama won't sue. It'd open him up to discovery and cross examination.
Isaac Butler
>I'm close to having my law degree
Shut up, 1L.
Jacob Murphy
"leaf law" doesn't apply here. Or in any free society.
Gavin Murphy
Look at this faggot. Pol is flooded with Shills lately.
Also Impeachable? You do realize that an impeachment requires a vote in congress right.
Elijah Perez
Maybe, but in the meantime, I'm not buying into your shilling.
Gabriel Sanders
>blatant lie Either a shill or a retard Sage the thread
Luke Cruz
Not only is it a lie being denied by all relevant individuals involved, it's impeachable, and congress wouldn't hesitate to remove this embarrassment for Pence to take over and continue a normal government.
Hunter Bennett
But no seriously, I love how a bunch of amateur armchair lawyers here try to debate this with me.
Trump would lose. He's been sued for libel before and always settled. This time would be no different. He'd settle for millions and then be impeached. Period.
Get a real job.
Logan Ortiz
That doesn't change the fact that you're an uppity, retarded 1L and not qualified to give a legal opinion. I hope the local Bar finds out about your shitposting and b&s you forever for giving legal opinions :^)
Isaiah James
D-Drumpf is finished this time I swear !
Grayson Torres
>lululllulllull
Seriously, keep your day job.
Henry Ward
Sounds like you like black cock OP. You nigger lover.
Bentley Edwards
I'm a 3L lelelululelolol :^)
And you're also an amateur armchair lawyer, you fucking retard. Top kek. I mean of course Sup Forums never has even the slightest clue what it's talking about when it comes to legal matters, but you are by definition not a professional lawyer. You are not a member of the Bar. You are not qualified to call yourself counsel, barrister or solicitor. You are therefore not in a position to talk.
You're a law student. You're only SELF-important. You're not actually important. Hope this helps, friend. I bet you're not even at a T14 school.
Jaxson Miller
I'm a lawyer and I can tell you that "close to having a law degree" makes you no more an expert on shit than reading a Wikipedia article. what, you read NY Times v Sullivan, had your professor talk libel for thirty mins on the second to last day of Torts, and now you're an expert on anything?
Christopher Watson
If that's true then they'll do just that but they won't because he's telling the truth.
Go fuck yourself kike.
Jeremiah Adams
I think you're a black cock slut.
Camden Rogers
>Get a real job.
>I'm close to having my law degree
Jeremiah Phillips
checked. Digits speak for us time and time again.
Liam Flores
>Not only is it a lie being denied by all relevant individuals involved, it's impeachable, and congress wouldn't hesitate to remove this embarrassment for Pence to take over and continue a normal government.
I AM a lawyer and work with a retired Federal Judge. Over the past few days, we've had some great discussions on this case and surveillance programs in general.
You realize that the AG would have had to sign off on a FISA, right? Obama would have had to have known about this.
Additionally, there is no way that Obama can legally say he didn't know about the electronic surveillance because he authorized the program (and that is how they discovered the servers tied to Russian banks for the FISA).
Obama is in a catch-22, and it is HIGHLY likely that Trump will prove he knew or should have known sometime this week.
Juan Gutierrez
Stop replying to slide threads and sage
Jose Morales
Trump claimed Obama had his phone tapped and Obama did have his phone tapped. How does that constitute libel?
Austin Anderson
>I'm close to having my law degree, and I can tell you
Nothing. A degree doesn't make you an expert in your field.
>I can tell you that unnamed sources and Twitter rants would not hold up in court
Which is hilarious given unnamed sources are all democrats and the media have offered up for virtually every attack against trump, including this russian conspiracy.
>I think Trump may have stepped in it this time.
I'm honestly surprised people haven't figured out yet that character assassination doesn't work with trump. The man is teflon.
You will not bring him down with bullshit and allegations. It's going to take something real, and there isn't anything or dems would have nailed him with it by now.
So sit back and enjoy the next 8 years.
Jackson Thomas
K. Keep me posted.
Christopher Long
>Also Trump losing a libel lawsuit while acting as president is an impeachable offense.
>law student
Are you studying at devry?
Dylan Brown
>It's not only a civil matter, it's an impeachable offense.
Are you really so dense as to believe bad blood between two president's an impeachable offense?
And this is all assuming that trump's claims about wiretapping are baseless, which they aren't, because the media reported it months ago.
The real shit is whether what obama did was legal.
Isaac Reed
>I'm almost a (((lawyer))) Hmmmm...
Leo Torres
>trump is done for >trump is done for >trump is done for >trump is done for >trump is done for How mamy times will you say this? At this point i dont think even you believe in it
Daniel Davis
>Trump would lose. He's been sued for libel before and always settled. This time would be no different. He'd settle for millions and then be impeached. Period.
>Get a real job.
Honestly I'm waiting for you to brag about your IQ and MENSA card next, faggot. You're an obnoxious student who doesn't even have his degree and you think you know everything about your field. Class A moron.
Grow up quick kiddo, because the actual professionals you're soon to be working around won't tolerate that shit.
Logan Rivera
I think this latest attack against Obama is just flagrant and undignified, but what else should one expect these days, OP?
Whether it constitutes slander or libel (IIRC the courts are still undecided whether internet trolling is actually one or the other, maybe you can inform me) is another matter.
What do you think of Trump's violation of the Emoluments clause and it it possible to tack on one offense to another if the POTUS is a serial power-abuser like Trump is?
Christopher Sullivan
Marvelous advice, bard!
Evan Lee
Except he clearly defined Obama as a "bad (or sick) guy", so unless you think he is referring to the administration as a guy, it's obvious he meant Obama personally.
Kayden Jackson
Blah blabh blah nervous man blah blah 7th gorillion time etc