Civilization

Has there ever been a civilization that was founded (and flourished) under the provision and leadership of women?

Genuinely curious.

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No.

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There are a few tribes here and there of a few dozen individuals that are considered matriarchies but calling that a civilisation might be a bit exagerated
otherwise no

I've been trying to find one, and there doesn't seem to be any evidence. Usually, I learn some missing tidbits from Sup Forums. A previous Sup Forumsster tried to tie the success of the American western 1800s to prostitution, but even that seemed to be a bit of a stretch.

Founded and flourished. Those were the qualifiers.

See, I've seen this, too; but which tribes? I'm really curious.

The Iroquois in canada were matriarchal.

The reason few matriarchs have ever formed is because founding a civilization is hard work. I'm not saying that women can't do hard work, but when you can literally skate by on easy-mode by merely opening your legs, chances are you're just gonna spread 'em rather than dirtying your own hands.

Hunting? A lot of long and hungry nights in an open field rife with predators and rival tribes. I'm just gonna open my legs.

Warring? You mean actually *killing*, with the potential to be killed? And it requires years of hard work and training? Forget that *opens legs*.

Construction? Sweating under the unforgiving sun to build massive monuments, shelters, and public works projects like roads and bath houses and Colosseums? That's uncomfortable and potentially dangerous, here, let me just open my legs instead.

Men have to move around and get shit done, because if we don't no one else will do it for us. Women, on the other hand, know that by spreading their legs and giving access to their cooch, they can act like parasites and survive.

women had a certain portion of leadership positions in ancient roman and greek religion, also in at least some mesopotamian religions. in ancient mesopotamia the priesthood was the only political opposition, aside from armed insurrection (which was very, very dangerous). the high priestesses of main fertility goddesses could be quite powerful.

women have been very powerful politically at times, especially when an empire was up for grabs with multiple factions having a real chance of winning it all. especially imperial rome, frankish gaul, mongol empire.

women were participants in warfare and politics among some awesome steppe tribes, like the skythians.

as for a civilization built on female leadership, i don't know any.

female leadership implies systemic weakness
a state built on systemic weakness is easily conquered by states built on strength (aka ruled by men)
if there ever was a fledgling matriarchal society, it was quickly taken over and stomped out by some patriarchal society in the vicinity.

This is the crux of it. Eggs are more expensive. But it comes with drawbacks such as you are literally spoils of war for men, as one example.

No, and there's strong evidence that once society (built by men) allows women to participate in leadership, the society soon collapses.

These are all good answers, in particular that it is men, and beta men specifically, who are both capable of producing labour and being heavily incentivized to do so by the even distribution of pussy.

But ultimately, the defining and original feature that men have and women don't is the capacity to independently conclude the importance of resisting the base animal urges. Women can be taught, during their formative years, through traditions and constant vigilance, but they will never rise up from the base state on their own and by their own conclusions.

Icelandic history

pretty shit tier civ desu

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HAHAHAHAHAHAno.

Had it been left up to women we'd still be living in the jungle.

this, pretty much the worst natives and they allied with the English to chimp out and fuck over all of north american natives

minoan crete

women have always been politically powerful, as they have always pulled strings behind the scenes. The whole feminist argument that they were not equal over vast portions of history is pure bullshit because of this. They have never been outright leaders because they could easily manipulate things behind the scene rather than putting themselves up on the chopping block.

Nope. And the Romans complained of expansion of women's rights before their collapse.

That was from the Adam Ruins Everything propaganda and it was pure horse shit.

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And where are they now?

The Minoans, to an extent

The frog god is pleased.
KEK VULT.

Queens waged more wars than Kings in Europe.

The only ones i can remember are the Mosuo in tibet and another one in Indonesia which is actually something like 4 million strong
But all of those share the common caracteristic of being uninovative, unevolving traditional shitholes where they live exactly as they did centuries before like all uncivilized cultures
Completely useless

Wasn't there something about how women brought about the welfare state in Rome, and that's how its decline began, though?

Oh, now THAT's and interesting piece of history. Pic entirely related.

So the whole reason for the war of 1812, and eventually the trail of tears, is because a matriarchal tribe caused all the fluff between the English and the US.

Queen Tamar of Georgia was one of the most prominent and respected rulers in Georgian history. She did a lot for the country and was a powerful leader, so much so that they called her "King Tamar".

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_of_Georgia

Someone is mentioning Iceland, but I don't think they were matriarchal. Got some links?
Thank you. So we have:
Iroquois in Canada
Mosuo in Tibet
An unnamed in Indonesia
Minoan in Crete

Now I'm curious as to these civilizations rise/fall. Is there a pattern that is recognizable?

Once again, and just to clarify the point:
Founded and Flourished by women.

I've not denying there have been some decent women leaders, but I'm looking specifically for civilizations that were matriarchal founded.

For example:
Queen Elizabeth was a hands off leader, which gave us the Golden Age of pirates: Commerce was at an all time high due to her de-regulation and lasses-faire handling of the economy.

...but England was queen founded/flourished... Sorry, didn't finish that sentence.

wasn't... can't type today.

She is overrated, she inherited country in a very good condition. also that's now OP was asking for.