Trumpcare general: It's a fucking disaster edition

Old: Bill text: housegop.leadpages.co/healthcare/

Think Progress piece on it: housegop.leadpages.co/healthcare/

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thinkprogress.org/trump-obamcare-replacement-breaks-more-promises-42b2fda950f#.b3j5berkm
conservativedailynews.com/2017/03/conservatives-find-little-to-love-in-american-health-care-act/
conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/rino-care-a-more-insolvent-version-of-obamacare-except-this-time-gop-owns-it
thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
tomwoods.com/ep-541-just-how-much-has-government-screwed-up-health-care-an-er-doctor-explains-and-tells-us-how-to-fix-it/
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At least you CAN fucking read it. the affordable care act was 8000 pages of fucking literally no one knows what.

thinkprogress.org/trump-obamcare-replacement-breaks-more-promises-42b2fda950f#.b3j5berkm

>using thinkprogress as a source
>being a leftist
kys

>Josh (((Israel)))
not even trying to be subtle about it

sage

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this is untrue. an alternative fact to match liberal mythology tbqhwy XD

ah an even "higher quality" source than CNN

impressive.

>Think Progress piece on it
what is this trash

It's untrue because I don't like it

Conservatives are he ultimate snowflakes

I don't see whats wrong with it. It seems to be exactly what he promised. I read through the whole article and I didnt find anything that went against anything he said during the campaign.

Some people might not like the idea of old people paying more but boo who. Thats what they used to do and they where fine. If they are really so poor that they cant afford it then they should be able to get it for free under medicaid.

Although I am a bit confused regarding medicaid. It seems to suggest it would be expanded but also cut off. And it mentions something about caps in 2020. I dont know anything about this subject so they may aswell be talking about some esoteric subject like programing. Can any of you explain it.

Fact: it is untrue because it relies on a false liberal mythology and misunderstanding of how the worlds works

Wrong

conservativedailynews.com/2017/03/conservatives-find-little-to-love-in-american-health-care-act/

So post something other than you being triggered.

>Think Progress

AHAHAHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAH

>It seems to be exactly what he promised.

It's not even close. It's remind you what he promises:

HEALTHCARE FOR ALL

NEGOTIATE DRUG PRICES WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES

Are Dems really gonna call it Trumpcare because they're that assmad? In all reality it's Paul Ryan's plan, Trump was just in it for repeal talk.

>more of this wishy washy halfway gobbledegook
Just completely nationalize healthcare and take capitalism out of it entirely

Oh wait, you have to get rid of the fatties and lobbyists first

Focus on getting rid of them then

>Are Dems really gonna call it Trumpcare because they're that assmad?

LOL Trump endorsed it faggot HE SAID HE HELPED COME UP WITH IT ON TWITTER

am i reading this correctly?

abortions were paid up with taxpayer money until now?

Why is it called TrumpCare? Isn't it a House plan?

>Why is it called TrumpCare? Isn't it a House plan?

Because Trump came up with it along with the house.

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Straight from the orange faggot's twitter account.

It's OUR healthcare plan!

Jesus Christ ShariaBlue, step up your game.

>Jesus Christ ShariaBlue, step up your game.

Where you dropped on your fucking head you walking abortion?

Racist

Paul Ryan came up with it primarily

Seriously, who writes your insults? Or do they expect you guys to just off the cuff shit? Either way, get someone else to do it.

wtf I hate Jim Jordan now!

>Paul Ryan came up with it primarily

OUR WONDERFUL NEW HEALTHCARE BILL

It's Trumpcare now faggot. Trump owns this and you will suffer dearly for this in 2018.

>Conservatives still attacking abortions when most of them are given to minorities

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb....

Yeah he endorsed his party's bill, I'm so surprised. Yeah I doubt he had much say in the nitty gritty of the bill because he doesn't know shit about health care.

Do what you want, but Obamacare was literally Obama's baby and legacy. This Healthcare plan is Paul Ryan's nut.

it's untrue because it's untrue, this isn't difficult to understand

>Yeah he endorsed his party's bill, I'm so surprised.

But I thought he wasn't a Republican, That's what pol said during the ENTIRE ELECTION!

TRUMP WAS INDEPENDENT! HE'S AN OUTSIDER!

> This Healthcare plan is Paul Ryan's nut.

it's TRUMPCARE faggot, you called ACA Obamacare, this is TRUMPCARE and he will sign it into law

How are the Republicans going to pay in 2018 when the vast majority of Republican seats up (which aren't many at all) are safe Red while the Democrats are facing elections in states they lost to Trump?

Democrats don't even show up to midterms.

>you will suffer dearly for this in 2018.
See all that blue? Those are states who have Dem senators up for reelection. Guess who does horrible in mid-term elections? More of your friends are going to become unemployed when they can no longer be fluffers for their pathetic ex-senator bosses.

>Paul Ryans bill
>Call it trumpcare
>Blame Trump
They'll say anything won't they

He's not a Republican, but it's his party and if he wants his immigration shit passed he has to endorse their health care circle jerk.

Welcome to simple party politics.

Obama endorsed the name Obamacare. I'm sorry it worked out terribly in the end, but even /r/politics faggots agree that it's Obama's fault the name stuck.

Here's an article explaining why it's bad to nonretards.

conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/rino-care-a-more-insolvent-version-of-obamacare-except-this-time-gop-owns-it

>Mitt Romney's bill

>call it Obamacare

>blame Obama

>nationalize health care

No you stupid asshole, I'm not forking over half my check every month for shittier service.

>buy across state lines

bingo bango

>Just completely nationalize healthcare
Pass. Hard pass.

And besides Trump isn't running again in 2020 so you'll have no one to blame Trump care on.

You know Paul Ryan isn't leaving anytime soon so blaming him will yield more reliable results since he is the face of the Republican party.

I sincerely hope this plan was released as doomed to fail because doing nothing to Obamacare is sadly better than this bill.

We pass this garbage and in 2020 we'll have single payer.

>And besides Trump isn't running again in 2020

Countries with nationalized healthcare have better healthcare than the US.

Canada, for example.

thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/

>And besides Trump isn't running again in 2020

Uhh yeah that's why he's doing all this stupid shit

>countries with smaller, more culturally and ethnically homogeneous populations see success in their socialist programs

No, they don't. They have more people "covered" in exchange for absurdly high taxes and rationing. Our health outcomes are better, look at cancer survival.

Screen cap it. It'll be Pence 2020 as Trump retires to a well deserved ride off into the sunset.

NONONONONONO YOU SEE WE NEED TO GIVE SHEKELS TO INSURANCE COMPANIES CAUSE THAT'S FREEDUM!

>Modernize and strengthen Medicaid by transitioning to a “per capita allotment” so states can better serve the patients most in need.
YES! BLOCK GRANTS!

This is the same way Republicans cut welfare spending in the mid-90s to give the US the only budget surplus of the last 60 years.

I don't like some of the other stuff, but this particular part is huge.

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Japan isn't small, it's got half the US population.

god I fucking love Lasagna Cat, what a comeback

So why call it Trumpcare when you'll have no one to tie to in 2020?

Pets in Canada's veterinary market have better care than people in Canada for the very reason that it operates on market forces.

The issue with both Canada's system and America's is that they aren't market options they are government based or government dictated.
tomwoods.com/ep-541-just-how-much-has-government-screwed-up-health-care-an-er-doctor-explains-and-tells-us-how-to-fix-it/

That would be good but they grandfather everyone in who signs up by 2019. They need to block grant it today.

>leaf in disguise

Idiot.

>This is the same way Republicans cut welfare spending in the mid-90s

You mean the thing that hollowed out or major cities by also adding on to it the GOP NAFTA they passed that shipped jobs overseas, so they had to start arresting poor people because they had no jobs.

>more culturally and ethnically homogeneous
>it's got half the US population
My point still stands retard.

I feel like Conway now.

>more culturally and ethnically homogeneous populations

>france, Uk, Sweden, Norway

Yeah right buddy.

>They need to block grant it today.

I think you should die a horrible death, TODAY

What has their GDP growth and debt to GDP ratio looked like since the late 80's?

Read my post more thoroughly

Money should not be involved in healthcare. It should be free. Not tax-funded, free. No insurance companies or tax payments.

>debt to GDP ratio

It's massive from last I saw largest on earth), about the same as the USA.

This is important. Like fuck..

>"John fucking Israel"
r u kiddin me

Then who will pay for your gibs, you parasite.

Very little of what your posted in your image has anything to do with health care.

Also, he's tred to keep a lot of those promises but was blocked ( extreme vetting and ceasing immigration from terrorist countries).

Additionally.... how long has he been in office? A few months. This is worse than Republicans freaking out saying " where's your change, Obama?" a year of him into office.

It's also being up for review, which means things can be re-evaluated and changed. It's not set in stone.

Grow the fuck up and BTFO.

>>france, Uk, Sweden, Norway
Yes? Last I checked, I think the lowest percentage of white people is in the UK and it's around 80% as I recall. We're at 60% and shrinking.

Canada isn't homogenous. The more you faggots shills for private healthcare insurance the stupider you look.

What's in the bill that makes it bad?

>HEALTHCARE FOR ALL
That was never a promise and kill yourself David Brock.

>Then who will pay for your gibs, you parasite.

Who will pay for Trump's 54 billion dollar military increase? YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

Wow, surely that will incentivize doctors to provide care. Let's make cars free too and see how that goes.

It's twice what ours is.

>Lapse on your insurance once in your entire life
>Even through no fault of your own via company going bye bye or your parents losing a job when you are 16
>Get a 30% rate hike each and everytime this happens

I did math on this. So assuming this happens just once. Assuming you pay 125 a month for Health Insurance (Thats LMAO low) your 30% hike would equal about 430 more dollars a year.

Obobocare = 300 Fine with No Insurance per year
Dumpcare = 430 each year assuming you only lapse once and not multiple times through out your life

>Sup Forums is UNIRONICALLY defending this mess

>HEALTHCARE FOR ALL

Where was that ever promised, dipshit? Boinie "first job at 40" Sandahs isn't president.

He's cutting 54 billion from discretionary programs dipshit. That's why the church of climate #science is having a fit.

you can balance budgets without increasing taxes

>muh abortions

I'm not even in America and I'm fucking sick of hearing about this.

>People who've never had to take responsibility in their life now have to at the age of 35

Oh fucking wow, better impeach Trump.

Doctors should be incentivized to provide care out of love for their race and their country, not by money. That love has to be cultivated before any socialism is attempted, though.

AT LEAST WE DON'T GOT DAT SOCIALIST KENYAN OBAMACARE

MUH DEATH PANELS

Which is why people will avoid buying it at all until they get sick, just like now.

>The more you faggots shills for private healthcare insurance the stupider you look.

>He's cutting 54 billion from discretionary programs dipshit.

Ok so when there is rioting in the streets cause nobody has healthcare or social safety net while we spend 900 million on military airplanes instead of building bridges?

>Ok so when there is rioting in the streets

I wanna add to this post as well.

Not only is this WORSE for the Consumer its WORSE for the Government. That 300 Dollars that were sent in as a Penalty Tax is now gone and the Health Insurance Companies, who don't fucking need it, are now getting 430 dollars in its place.

Republicans are literally so fucking stupid they gave themselves LESS money to spend on things. Holy fuck this hilarious.

lmfao

we do not have better healthcare you dumb nigger

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Then we can cut the rot from society and all be better off. You don't deserve my money and you sure as shit don't convince me by looting from other Democrats.

How can we suffer when every seat up for reelection in 2018 is Democrat

If they pass this monstrosity they deserve to lose.

I personally believe no matter what he does this is going to be a disaster. Just making them cover pre-existing conditions is a failure in of itself. Nothing good is going to come of this and while Obamacare needs to go I don't think anything Trump does is going to go well in regards to replacing it. Fuck Obama and everyone who enabled this situation is even happen.

>he fell for the great canada healthcare meme
ahahahahahahaha