Communism is about common ownership of the means of production, NOT personal property...

Communism is about common ownership of the means of production, NOT personal property. You get to keep your stuff under communism, dont listen to capitalist lies.

bumping for class consciousness

doesn't change the fact that a communist society would devolve into a dystopia worse than an ancap paradise

You get to keep your personal property under communism, unfortunately you'll be too poor to afford any.

The lazy ass can just survive off of what the workers do.

oh really. is that how nomadic tribes did things? gosh.

you mean like corporate CEOs?

>You get to keep your personal property!
>After it gets confiscated by the proletariat and redistributed

No one cares you nog loving cuck, fuck off back to /leftypol/

What "stuff"? I'm pretty sure you'll end up having everything you own shared except necessities like bed and toothbrush. The only people that actually want communism are those so far down the Neet hole they'll only gain from taking everybody's stuff from them.

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>Government nationalizes all businesses
>Including foreign owned businesses
>Other countries demand compensation for the loss of their business assets
>Refuse the filthy capitalists
>They refuse to trade with you in response and enact a trade embargo against your country
>Econonomy stagnates and the people become poorer
>Blame capitalism

You people are fucking idiots.

>NOT personal property.
Thats not what the (((communist))) bible, the Talmud says, bruhh

>implying that throughout history nomadic tribes shared a common interest in sustaining each other, and NOT other tribes people
>tribalism and ethno centrism
Very problematic tb.h

But you can already have common ownership of the means of production. You and several buddies can start a limited company where you own an equal number of shares each, and give share to anyone who join the company.

Can you confirm that you aren't simply for the free and voluntary choice of communism for those who want to take part in that system as you can do already -- but forcing it on everyone who doesn't want?

>common ownership of the means of production

what does this actually mean though?

everyone in a factory gets paid the same even the retard who sweeps up the metal shavings at night?

does my cuckshed get communized because I produce BBC porn in it?

>Doesnt understand teh differance between communism and socialism
>Doesn't realize communism isn't real - its just a ploy for low IQ plebs like OP to help invoke a socialist authoritarian state
>Socialist state will take and redistribute anything but basic personal items
>OP has never lived in a Socialist shithole, but should be made to.

>implying that tribes didn't help each other or combine in times of trouble

uh huh

soviet union was state capitalism.

nazis weren't socialist either, they were fascists.

nice shitposting. that's impressive

>common ownership of the means of production

But who gets to decide what to produce and how much?

>B-But it wasn't REAL communism/socialism/marxism/

>looking out for your tribe/people (racist fascism), even if it requires any cooperation with anybody else, is held in the same parallels as modern say ethno-masochism
Whew

Ill just leave this here.

Shit-tier bait, no one this retarder/ignorant would go to the trouble of making a thread on Sup Forums

Yeah, we'll take over all the mines and factories! Oh wait...

An elite council of people who humbly accept this great responsibility of controlling everything - OP happens to volunteer.

Given the great brainpower exerted and the stress of their job their needs will be higher than for other people, so when we give to people according to need the ruling council must have more comfortable cars, bigger houses and holidays.

Is there a version of communism where everyone collectively owns the means of production, but you keep what you produce instead of having it forcibly redistributed to lazy shits?

doesn't work because the CZAR at the top of the chain gets to choose what u get and who can leave to and fro. It's a massive pyramid scheme

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This is retarded moralism. The "rich" barely consume resources. You can argue that 0.1% of the population is as rich as the bottom 30% with random stats, but does the average CEO actually (personally) consume 300 times more food than the person? 300 times the water? Does he own 300 smartphones, televisions and cheap cars and keep them around his giant megamention that's the size of 15 football fields? When a million peasants are dying of hunger and kill the nobles and Czars to sack their castles, the first thing they get to understand is that they still get to be hungry, because there's no food in the palace to keep a feed a million people. A non-retarded socialist knows this is pure populist rethoric and it means nothing.

What you're arguing isn't that socialism would redistribute the wealth of CEO's, but that the state would do a better job at administrating that wealth than private individuals. And from what we have witnessed from failed experiments such as the USSR is that such attempts at marxist have not only failed to show the supposed higher efficiency of the State at creating wealth for the population, it also failed at preventing an oligarchy from taking place from within the system. Faggots saying "it wasn't real socialism" are the main reason no one takes marxists seriously anymore.

but bernie said i'd get a free xbox