I will start. >Microwave oven frequncy 2.4 GHz >It works because it mostly absorbs by water, but less by anything else >Therefore it heats eat, by heating its water, but less anything else
>Wi-fi appears. Can be any frequency. right? >Guess what? Its frequency is 2.4 GHz, of all variants. To interfere with microwave ovens, yes. >No. It's to see you through the walls because you are 80% water. >It was tested and reported in the open sources, that you can see what a person writes on the keyboard through the wall >Every wi-fi spot perfects the precision
>that you can see what a person writes on the keyboard through the wall
Couldn't they just put a keylogger on my laptop?
Daniel Fisher
Yes, but this way they can monitor your health, emotional reactions, your position in the room, etc quite precisely without the need of a webcam.
Evan Allen
The first wireless standards were 802.11/a which operated at 5GHz. 802.11b changed it to 2.4ghz because it penetrated walls better and had an overall better range. Those two frequency ranges were chosen because they're in the ISM (Industrial, Scientific, Medical) bands and are mostly unregulated by the FCC except for transmit power. The technique for using them as basically radar was only discovered a few short years ago
Why not 2.3, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 etc? Is only 2.4 so special? Is it hard to make a bit different regulations?
>The technique for using them as basically radar was only discovered a few short years ago Bullshit. Microwave ovens were made in the 50s and it is exactly this technology -- heat the water, nothing else. How could they "not discover" it??? There's nothing to discover!
Carter Hall
>Its frequency is 2.4 GHz, of all variants. except for the 5.8ghz variants, noob
Juan Gonzalez
Which no one uses, lol.
John Green
bump
Jason Kelly
wifi is deployed to grill the population in case of an uprising
Blake Sullivan
Well, if you can boost wi-fi energy to 700W+
Thomas Phillips
That just mindfucked me OP.
James Miller
Why else do you think they have everything connected to powerlines?
Cameron Edwards
I doubt this is a conspiracy.
Its just a side channel hack. There are many like it, some much more interesting.
2.4ghz / 5ghz is just used because its unlicensed spectrum in the US.
you guys want to make this a side channel data recovery thread?
Austin Brooks
Gonna use sun power for my wi-fi I guess... and protect the rooms with reflectors lol
>tfw tinfoils were literally right all the way
Jackson Cruz
It's because 2.4ghz is unlicensed spectrum, you simpletons.
Hudson Allen
Tell me more
Brayden Carter
Bruh, he's basically saying wifi routers serve as EM radiation lightbulbs to see you through walls.
Cooper Lewis
gib proof Also why not 5ghz in the first place? Literally no one uses 5ghz today and it doesn't work on many devices, and even if it works it usually requires new drivers
Carson Reyes
In 1971, ALOHAnet connected the Hawaiian Islands with a UHF wireless packet network. ALOHAnet and the ALOHA protocol were early forerunners to Ethernet, and later the IEEE 802.11 protocols, respectively.
A 1985 ruling by the U.S. Federal Communications Commission released the ISM band for unlicensed use
OOOOYY VEEEEY
So it became for unlicensed use AFTER IEEE 802.11 was invented.
>tfw almost 1984 just 1985
Levi Jackson
5ghz is lower range, less reliable.
5ghz wifi was specified in 802.11ac (which nobody used) and 802.11n (which works well, I use this at home, no drivers needed). 2.4ghz is used by 802.11a/b/g (maybe more?)
I did a quick search for unlisenced spectrum, but I didnt find it on the first couple wikipedia pages I looked for.
Parker Allen
We're walking infrared lightbulbs, they don't need WiFi to see people through walls.
5ghz doesn't penetrate buildings nearly as well as 2.4ghz, which is why it was less popular initially. Plenty of devices now support 802.11ac though, which introduced the 5ghz band in 2014-ish. My router has dual radios, and while 5ghz is faster (and FAR less congested) its signal drops rapidly as you move away from the source.
Jonathan Scott
just a note, I got 802.11ac and 802.11n reversed.
Thomas Brown
That sounds like a most ineficient replacment for a keyloger ever.
Jose Gomez
What are you getting at here?
Christopher Collins
>We're walking infrared lightbulbs >Implying I am
Asher Wood
Can we talk about this?
Gavin Hughes
>Wi-fi appears. Can be at any frequency, right?
Wrong. Do I actually have to explain this or is someone else doing it?
this chart lists 2.4 as "amateur" useage. but doesnt denote that it is unlicensed. some frequencies such as ham radio require licenses, this chart doesnt show the distinction.
Joseph Morales
So wut r u sayin, we being microwaved by wifi?
Brandon Morales
>some frequencies such as ham radio are "amateur" but require licenses, this chart doesnt show the distinction.
Caleb Ward
>We're walking infrared lightbulbs, they don't need WiFi to see people through walls. youtube.com/watch?v=qmepnm0lcZE Yeah..
Henry Gutierrez
Checked! Get to explaining
Zachary Fisher
at a lower wattage, the mini microwaves fog the mind of the subject and make it harder to coordinate. At a higher power level, it blinds the user and can lead to cardiac arrest and burns all over
A few years ago we came within days of having most of our satellites wiped out and our power grids destroyed for months if not years. We would have gone back decades technologically.
Cameron Peterson
dont you even hollywood bro?
Kayden Foster
Death by microwave? Nah, our government would never allow that.
Gabriel Cook
I member
Jacob Nelson
You should go ahead, I'm finding this too amusing.
The US military performed MASSIVE open air radiation experiments on unaware US citizens and soldiers in the 1950s.
Google "The Green Run."
Chase Ortiz
Yep, Mr. Marshall Islands. And as German bro suggested, it can be much worse
Oliver Stewart
>>It works because it mostly absorbs by water, but less by anything else >>Therefore it heats eat, by heating its water, but less anything else Old myth. 900 MHz oven works just as well and is larger for industrial purposes. 900 MHz microwave oven also has better penetration for more even cooking. RF power is power. The wavelength is relevant to the size of the oven and the size of the food you are cooking, but the water "resonance" myth has to go... the food absorbs RF power.
Evan Wood
Typically as you increase the transmitting frequency you have to increase power usage as well to get the same range.
Michael Mitchell
It should be pointed out. That what OP is talking about is real, MIT did do research and was able to determine relative position and orientation of a person inside a structure using ambient wifi signals.
It's just not a conspiracy.
Ian Sanchez
Also, MIT is not your friend. It's just as bad as CIA and run by Tavistock.
Jayden Bailey
What about Voyager spacecraft. 12 Watts to transmit beyond the solar system. Not too shabby.
Asher White
the data rate is atrocious, and you can only receive the data with a radio telescope.
Brody Turner
who is 'They'? oh i know, it's the 'Thems'.
Josiah Bennett
So you are now saying that just increasing receiver sensitivity works as well?
Juan Gonzalez
I call them NSA but could be broader group
Jose Hall
The US has had working Plasma weaponry since the early 90s.
a radio telescope is only receiving signals from a small portion of space, probably using a channel dedicated to nasa with no other local emissions sources of any kind.
If you get that kind is signal isolation, on the right frequency with a building sized antenna you might be able to get a several bit per second radio link across the solar system with 1970s technology and 12 watts.
Chase Kelly
Not too shabby.
Kayden Brooks
...
Jonathan Butler
>they can monitor your health, emotional reactions,
OK so.... could they.... monitor the subject and then adjust the wifi power for maximum effect? This way they could control perfectly the treatment they are dosing
Tyler Morales
all with the same wifi device
Juan White
Don't think it's active though (at least usually), but feel the need to test it already
Whatever you say, but >That frequency was chosen because higher frequencies would only cook the skin of your potato and lower frequencies would pass through the potato And it allows you to make imagery through the walls, to identificate gestures and heartbeat. And as microwave ovens prove, it can also burn you.
Jaxson Walker
most microwaves are 1000 watts.
no wifi router has a power supply that comes close to 1000 watts. maybe ~10, probably less.
Logan Scott
But can you prove that it can't boost that energy out, say due to malfunction?
Dylan Adams
putting you on my list of faggot love live fans to kill on the day of the rope
Lucas Johnson
the rarest of rare flags and no one bats an eye.
Sure it's probably a proxy but even that's cool too.
Jaxson Gonzalez
Even with 250W you can heat things given time. 700W is max on my microwave oven.
Hudson Bailey
I'm talking about the power supply.
like the thing that plugs into the wall to turn it from AC to DC current.
You have one for your phone / laptop / etc....
They are rated to handle a certain amount of draw, if they go much over they will blow a fuse.
If you tried to draw 100 watts through the power supply for a wifi router you might melt it, the house might catch on fire (probably just blow a fuse), but its not going to microwave you to death.
Michael Rivera
>100 watts will blow a house fuse
How much power do you think a fucking vacuum cleaner draws?
Chase Rodriguez
>what is resistance
Isaac Perry
Crazy open secrets?
We used attack dolphins equipped with explosive syringes to kill a sea monster after an oil rig collapsed it's cave and it tore a scuba diver to shreds.
Only 9 dolphins made it back alive.
William Myers
you are still talking more than an order of magnitude larger than the power draw for the entire device, the antenna probably operates at around 1w.
you are also probably across the room, and not in an inclosed space. Its not going to boil you.
It really would be easier to light your huose on fire if they wanted ot kill you.
not talking about a house fuse. 110v circuits can usually deliver ~ 1500watts, but are really only designed for ~1000 -1200.
Luis Mitchell
>draw 100 watts through the power supply for a wifi router you might melt it, the house might catch on fire American education.
Ayden Miller
nigger look at the content of this thread and tell me this is the craziest shit that's been said.
hang yourself.
Brandon Adams
Jill Stein was right!
Kayden Phillips
>not talking about a house fuse.
Ok, it was the fact you put that after setting the house on fire that I thought that's what you were talking about.
Parker Phillips
Source?
Adrian Roberts
love live is great tho, he even posted best girl
Oliver Kelly
na. just talking about the device. if the device drew over its spec and the power supply didnt blow a fuse it could cause a fire (hypothetically), thats all.
Blake Turner
>the power supply didnt blow a fuse
I wonder what % of power supplies have a safety fuse in them.
Liam Hall
so the device needs to utilize sophisticated short-pulse emission, kek
Nathan Lopez
I'm not an EE. but I'm pretty sure most of them have some kind of safety for power overdraw.
I am a power electronics engineer. Nothing that you plug into a regular wall outlet is going to generate a strong enough signal to fry you. Made me think for a second, but it just isn't happening.
this guy pretty much gets it.
Dylan King
What's the max power man can hope to achieve with usual wi-fi?
Dunno why you are talking about regular wall outlet though, I thought the problem can be only in the wi-fi itself, since usual power plug allows microwave ovens with 700W to work just fine.
Asher Gomez
*energy
Ethan Sanchez
>Nothing that you plug into a regular wall outlet is going to generate a strong enough signal to fry you. So much for the EE. 3kW drawn from regular house wall outlet for the wireless device with directed antenna will fry anything up.
Landon Bell
there's probably capacitors in a microwave boosting the power.
I'm not exactly an engineer, but there you go. It's built to achieve those levels of electricity.
Robert Young
>3kW drawn from regular house wall outlet in the united states... this isnt possible. see
>110v circuits can usually deliver ~ 1500watts, but are really only designed for ~1000 -1200.
Jayden Martin
>capacitors boosting the power
Liam Smith
idk dude I'm not doing the math for it right now i'm dealing with an entirely different electronics scenario at the moment. But as far as the 1000W scenario, see below.
okay yeah special circumstance devices, sure, but a fucking wifi router? no. That shit would burn up real quick
Luke Harris
are you marshallese?
Ryder Hernandez
that's not how capacitors work.
Zachary Gray
Well, 3kW or 1,5kW will change nothing.
Julian Murphy
thats what they do though, they hold energy and you can send them out in loops.
whatever though nigger
Charles Edwards
oh I get it you had a class once.
Lucas Morris
If you are talking about impulse power then yes, but not the average power.
Asher Sanders
okay, so what in your house has a 1.5kw power supply.
