Please explain to me why socialism is bad

Please explain to me why socialism is bad.

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im eating right now, never worked a day in my life

sue me

>kids don't work
>kids starved
yep, he was true to his word

it inherently isn't, it just hasnt been fully realized yet and thats why most people crap on it

Works well in majority white countries.

Contrary to popular belief, people aren't equal.

Socialism is not bad, it is the future

>Quite right.

Fucking... Goddammit

Communism was formulated as a reaction to the problems of the industrial revolution.

We live in a post industrial society in the west now

beautiful

People are not equal.

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Fuck off, Nazis.
Socialism is a lie.

What's your response to this quote?

he who ceases the means of production shall not eat

Lol OK.

But no capitalist nation in all of latin america is even close to as wealthy as hong kong.

youtube.com/watch?v=zIddCEBCKHQ

>be Havana
>come to america to visit
>send fucking engine blocks, blocks of car components through the mail back home to your family just so they can fix the fucking cars they own since socialism doesnt translate to part replacements being made or having the money to buy replacements from the manufacturer

It does not work?

It's a good quote coming from a horrible person, kind of like all the hitler shit

see

Why is it good?
What problem does it solve?
How is making everyone miserable a good solution

This right here. Any car guy knows Cuba is a treasure trove of 50s automobiles. Why? Because thats when time literally stopped for them. They stopped developing as a country.

Socialism is a lie.

u fuckin wot

>horrible
youtube.com/watch?v=Rh-4gsDjAKg

And the starved kids kept the parents starving.

Socialism truly is the greatest system isn't it?

You are fucking retarded if you think Cuba in the 50's was good and better than modern day Cuba, or even 60's commmunist Cuba

Turns out nobody eats when you murder the most productive farmers and literally punish people for doing better work.

>bad

subjective
usually its only "naughty" because on paper it eliminates exploitation of anyone

which simply wont do

Left wing means no money and crisis and everything is too expensive
Right wing means rich working class and businessmen, but dead culture. teachers artists r poor
Balance is needed

And do you honestly believe people living a shallow meaningless life in Hong Kong are happier than those living a peaceful simple life in Havana?

Exactly.

Why not synthesize?

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>mfw this is the lie

Captain John Smith one point said this at Jamestown too.

I actually find it fascinating that Lenin is quoting the Bible here

>Show up fallen socialism forms
What he mean?

i see what you're saying but the argument could be adjusted to say "large groups of people are incapable of allowing socialism". there's too much to pay in opportunity cost and too much to lose if it fails.

Most of your leftists and atheists back then were not totally "LOL FUCK RELIGION CHRISTIANTY IS DUM"

autism

>inspired low income low intelligence Chinese people
>life expectancy rose for all the people except for the ~75 million who died under his regime
>cherry picking individual examples of pro-mao peasants while there are thousands of cases made by peasants against him
>just because mao didn't show hatred towards victims of the famine that means he didn't intend for it
Great video bud really showed me

Two Thessalonians, lol

Hitler was an asshole

why did most of these countries, despite having access to resources akin to their neighboring countries, as well as having other communist allies,collapse economically and civilly?

religion and freedom r incompatible

>My special brand of socialism hasn't been tried before
>I'm a well of righteousness and can do no wrong

Only poor lazy NEET fags who masturbate to anime like socialism.

>socialism has worked
>post a list of examples where it failed
The entire video can be summed up with "it's ok when we use force but not when you do"

That is a dumb statement

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why

Fuck that shit. If I'm going to work that hard, you're going to remember me as something else than a tucking "worker."

I don't know about that; the USSR and Maoist China were all for the eradication of religion

It does work.

Most of the idiots on the board don't understand what socialism actually is. It's basically lite communism within a democratic government. This means there still may be many privatised things but the government still manages and does things like welfare healthcare education etc... This doesn't mean the government is handing out rations.

You can believe in god and be free.
Checkmate.

True. I felt like I received a new lease on life by my own terms when I quit trying to find God. If he needs me, I'm sure he knows where I live...supposedly

>right wing means dead culture
You do know it was the left wing communists who destroyed Russian culture

That quote was from the gulags so if they didn't do forced labor they would be starved it isnt about actual communism you faggot

>don't give a child bread
>show him how to kill birds so they stop eating grains

*cough* trade sanctions *cough*

wise observation user and from an American no less

how?

State socialism replaces the plutocratic employer with a bureaucratic employer who is also the state. It ends up being still a dictatorship on the proletariat and thus not real socialism. Guild socialism is the most practical because it is against capitalism but also prevents bureaucracy from forming. The proletariat genuinely have control over the means of production.

God, being God, is so powerful he is able to create free will within his created universe.
Check.

There's a difference between what works and what's best.

Actually, depends on what you define by "freedom"

The leaders of the USSR and Maoist China do not represent all leftists and atheists at the time; furthermore, the whole "fuck religion" thing USSR had going on was stopped after Stalin ate shit

almost no gulags weren't around when Lenin was still kicking

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Money can't buy happiness, so happiness is worthless.

ussr was one big totalitarian gulag
just slavery
its not even commisnm its even worser

Left wing fascism

laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Fascism/Germany/Otto Strasser - Germany Tomorrow (Part 2).pdf

Actually it was after Lenin "ate shit", since it was Stalin who started recovering religion.

Belarus still retains Soviet economic operations

"Stalin called for an "atheist five year plan" from 1932–1937, led by the LMG, in order to completely eliminate all religious expression in the USSR. It was declared that the concept of God would disappear from the Soviet Union."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1928–1941)

National socialism works for me.

Yep, everything's always easier when you're using OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY!

Look at Barry. He ran up the deficit another $10T after Bush took it to $9T. From 2009-2016, the U.S. took in ~$30T in federal income taxes and other revenues, which means Barry SPENT almost $40T over his 8 years in office. And what do we exactly have to show for all of it?

It should not cost $5T a year to run the world's superpower and there's plenty of fat that needs to be trimmed.

cant wait till you get killed by migrants

Did... uhhh... did ya hear about the like... uhhh... 100 million people dead or... ?

How does a Russian not understand his nations own history. Stalin died shaking his fist at God.

Lenin didn't fight religion either. The so called "godless 5year plan" was launched in 1933 under Stalin. The main Cathedral and most temples were also blown up during that times.

While relations between the Orthodox Church and Lenin government were sour, they were good enough with more progressive forces, like the reformer movement that embraced socialism and protestant churches that were allowed to create their own communes.

Some people produce more from their work. Some people produce absolutely nothing of use despite their work. There are more of the latter but they are still entitled to a share of what the producers make. Because technically they all "work".

I wouldn't say he wanted the famine to happen. It seems to me like he was just too stupid and incompetent.

stalin start believeing in god when he start losing in ww2

Even when it's done right it isn't cost-efficient. Also it isn't called "solidarity" when you're forced to do it

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Lenin did indeed fight religion. Maybe not to the extent of Stalin, but he enforce anti-religious policies such as banning religious teaching in schools

So when are you planning on killing yourself? Stream it

he's right i a way
after Hitler started opening churches on occupied soviet clay, Stalin stopped persecution
event found some bishop in camps and made him a patriarch
new anti-religion campaigns started after Stalin's death

>tfw this was your high school text book
I did not ask for this nostalgia

He stole that from paul the apostal

>banning religious teaching in schools
Don't they do that today?

>dey dont think it be real communism but it do sheeeeiiiiiiyyyyyyt!

Even if he did, it certainly didn't compel him to rebuild any of the religious structures he demolished

no

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removes incentive to do business

it only works in industrial societies, but not in modern ones

>socialism demands all most productive farmers be murdered and seek out better work and punish those who did it

what the fuck is this bullshit you are making up
have you even looked up the definition of socialism you pathetic retard

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1928–1941)

>start believeing in god
ples
he was studying to become priest, those people never believe in god