Why do people still smoke? Do you support the idea that smokes should be taxed higher?
>Researchers found that, among smokers ages 12 to 17, the percentage who had depression increased from 16.0 percent in 2005 to 22.4 percent in 2013. That was the biggest increase in depression seen in the study, which looked at rates of depression among current smokers, former smokers and people who had never smoked, ages 12 and older.
>Overall, the rate of depression in the U.S. population ages 12 and older increased from 6.9 percent in 2005 to 7.2 percent in 2013.
>The rate of depression among all current smokers in the study increased from about 10.0 percent in 2005 to 10.5 percent in 2013.
>The rate of depression increased among male smokers, from about 6.2 percent in 2005 to 7.8 percent in 2013.
>The rate of depression among female smokers was nearly twice as high as the rate in men; however, there was no increase in depression among female smokers during the study period.
they are taxed pretty high here, almost £9 per pack of 20
Daniel Powell
how do people even get addicted to smoking? When people offer me a cigg ill smoke it, sure. I love the taste and feeling. But i dont go out of my way and buy a pack to smoke when im alone. Thats fucking depressing.
Cameron Wright
People like supporting our Greatest Ally you evil Nazi
John Cooper
I got addicted like some sort of faggot, right now I'm in a stressful part of my life and I don't want to add quitting smoking on top of that because I'm a pussy..
Both of my parents also smoked, so I suppose as a young teen it was easy for me to start, since the negative connection probably wasn't as much as someone who's parents told them not to smoke and didn't themselves.
At least I roll my own, so I don't spend a ton of money on it.
Kevin Carter
I don't like smokers because they are always so angry and are just looking for a fight.
Landon Brown
i smoke 4/day but when week off from work i have none. also during weekends i smoke none unless going to pub
William Sullivan
is rolling tobacco like a taboo in america? Ive never seen it outside of the netherlands.
Isaiah Hernandez
Wow that's high. ~€6 here.
Carter Harris
This pretty much sums it up.
John Roberts
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Andrew Cooper
People do it here too. It's much cheaper than buying a pack.
Dylan Campbell
Nice strawman all x are y
Nathaniel Murphy
What kind of bullshit reseach is this.Yes sure depressed people are more likely to abuse substances like nicotine,more new at 11 Almost everybody rolls here,especially young people.I think its the same for Spain and Italy
Eli Bailey
I always use rolling tobacco its cheaper and lasts longer than a pack of fags
Luke Howard
>is rolling tobacco like a taboo in america? Ive never seen it outside of the netherlands. When I smoked, I used rolling tobacco. It was cheaper, and you never crushed a pack of smokes at work. People would frown upon it because there was no filter, and all good americans know that a filter makes a cigarette healthy. After 2 decades I had to give it up, because I was sick of being an addict.
But yes it is somewhat taboo....people think you roll your own because you are poor. The cost was part of it, because If I am paying big tobacco companies to kill me, I will at least do it on the cheap. I also hated carrying packs with me because I would crush them at work regularly.
Jacob Gray
Try being around a smoker who hasn't had a smoke that day. He'll be literally shaking and cussing at everyone until he gets that smoke. >implying that's not the Sup Forums way. We do it for literally everything. Be it blacks, jews, vegans..
Andrew Wilson
I used to smoke daily, then maybe once a week, now maybe once a fortnight.
I have a pack in my cupboard, and I will light one up every now and then with a beer.
Jaxon Cruz
Yea if its crack he smokes i dont know any smokers that get like that m8
Sebastian Flores
>austrian beer ugh
Juan Murphy
Fuck off kikes. Smoking raises test levels which is why the kikes are so vehement on anti-smoking. We had literally hundreds of threads about this. If you don't smoke you're a numale and belong on reddit
Bentley Gutierrez
100 rubles for pack of average cigs in russia. Its like 1.5$ Average salary here is 15k rubles. I smoke one pack of cigs everyday, 3k only for just smoke. Every second kid in high school smokes. Cigs should cost cheaper, i think. Personal choice.
Easton Cox
It's the norm here t. turk
Angel Cooper
thats becuase you are shithole with violent savages.
Justin Jenkins
I wouldn't say it's a taboo, but it's not super common from what I've seen.
I find that more common with heavy smokers. That's just my experience though.
Landon Hill
>Why do people still smoke? They think they can beat the odds of the diseases and weaknesses that can come with smoking
Looks
They say it relaxes them
Got into the habit early in their life, can't quit, in denial they are getting addicted
Last and not least flavor, some people genuinely like the flavor
Brayden Turner
I fell for the vape meme but smoked half a pack a day for like 8 years
I think they should be outright banned desu, the tobacco companies have got every smoker by the balls, literally paying to kill yourself faster
Because risk taking in our society has been banned or shunned to death.
Ian Nelson
Smoking is one of the most bluepilled things in existence
>tastes like shit >destroy your health both physically and mentally >is addictive so you lose control over yourself >expensive asf
Jace Brown
>They say it relaxes because it does
Angel Cruz
I used to smoke nearly 2 packs a day. Quit cold turkey one day because I think it gave me a panic attack and scared me.
That was around 14 or so years ago. I miss smoking a lot and enjoyed it.
Leo Adams
Must be something in the fags in your country then bud
Thomas Ramirez
>Last and not least flavor, some people genuinely like the flavor
This, i like em.
Jose Richardson
I smoked because i liked the taste and clarity it brought. Then taste went to shit and i started to buy tobacco and roll my own. Now i can't be bothered with that, but taste of regular cigarettes still repulses me so i don't smoke.
Adrian Diaz
Should have switched to reddit 14 years ago too beta boi
Eli Ortiz
>tastes bad >mentally destroys you
Are you in middle school?
Zachary Perry
>Tips fedora.
You sound fun at parties. Consider hanging yourself next time you're at one of by chance you get invited.
Gabriel Kelly
>Adolf Hitler was first for anti-smoking >calls everyone kikes
Jace Martinez
Smokers already pay a sin tax in the U.S. and pay higher premiums for their health insurance.
Henry Williams
What the fuck are you going on about, Muhammad? Detonate yourself.
Brayden Clark
I feel the same about alcohol. I love getting that just right feeling and that's it, but I'll never drink unless it's a major happening or I'm with friends/family
It actually tastes awful to me if there's no bros to shoot the shit with or no happenings. I'll never get how people can become alkys but I understand that it happens
Landon Hall
>science 80 years ago >science today Sort yourself out
Dominic Evans
>2 packs a day thats disgusting
>Detonate yourself. kek
Ian Jenkins
Any anons got any recommendations for good quality rolling tobacco? I haven't experimented too much with different brands. I mainly smoke menthol but I like a good quality normal one too.
Before I started rolling my own I used to smoke marlboros if that helps.
Liam Perez
In Australia, tobacco is taxed at approximately $700 per kilogram.
That's why we have a packet of 20 going for $18 AUD.
The smokers are taxed enough already.
Jack Allen
American Spirit Organic. Red pouch.
Luis Morgan
Roll thin and smoke without a filter*
Jonathan Wright
Any chewing bros here? Redpill me on chewing tobacco. Is it all the benefits minus the smoke inhaling negatives?
Austin Bell
Will give it a try if I see it at the store. Thanks.
Carter Cooper
Only if it's pasteurized snus
Gabriel Edwards
yea your teeth gets fucked up
Xavier Johnson
Nice trips
I drink Sapporo or Asahi
Justin Cox
You'll like it, I guarantee it. Marlboro/vs/Spirits is like the flavor of a cashed bowl vs a nice smoked piece of meat
Isaiah Moore
Any good brands i should get always wanted to try chewing tobacco
Andrew Bennett
mrsnus.com/index.php This site has some good recommendations and deals. I know they ship from Europe so UK should be ez and they also carry nasal snus
Isaiah Collins
>Mentally ill people have a higher risk of substance abuse ya don't say
Alexander Rivera
Tobacco is a scared plant to native tribes in Canada , so they are allowed to grow it and make cigarettes. I buy 200 for $20. No tax.
John Wright
People smoke because they don't give a shit about health; I will go a step further and say that people activelly have a death wish, people actively wish to suffer and call it enjoyment. Human beings are not desgined to be healthy, we are designed to voluntarily take up suffering and smoking encapsulates that behaviour. Smoking is really a religion experience and it is something that should be respected not shunned.
Mason Gomez
we already are taxed higher. we pay tobacco tax with a sales tax on top of it.
problem?
Brayden Howard
Thanks senpai might order myself a tin
William Torres
*sacred
Mason Cook
its just tastes really cool with coffee and alcohol and its been in the pop culture for long
Brayden Williams
>People shit in the street because they don't give a shit about health; I will go a step further and say that people activelly have a death wish, people actively wish to suffer and call it enjoyment. Human beings are not desgined to be healthy, we are designed to voluntarily take up suffering and street-shitting encapsulates that behaviour. Street-shitting is really a religion experience and it is something that should be respected not taken to the loo.
Chase Edwards
>Why do people still smoke?
because they're stupid
Christopher Rodriguez
Yep that first smoke of the day with a big cup of hot coffee seta you up just right
Matthew Stewart
>Why do people still smoke? Addictive
Jose Thompson
Id say Im a heavy drinker when I do drink (5+), and sometimes I do like to play video games alone and have a nice big screwdriver. I'll never get why people use it when they are doing anything but trying to have a good time. But i guess when your life is in the shitter people use it to try and force a good time.
It's becoming more and more common with cigarettes being nine dollars a pack after taxes. In NYC i hear they are almost 20 dollars.
Leo Collins
since i started smoking i got 2 inches on dick i think it correlates
Bentley Allen
>smoked a pack >never feel like it again
Didn't even feel that good desu
Oliver Peterson
Nicotine is not why people smoke. It's because of cadmium accumulation which makes them feel tougher. Cadmium is taken up by the body for certain enzymes as a shitty placeholder of zinc.
That's why smokers have a distinct tough perverted personality. Also why female smokers are usually whores. Toxic metal accumulation that makes people feel stronger but in actuality it's just toxic as fuck.
Ryder Rivera
It should be subjected to sales tax like other shit you buy. I don't smoke but fuck off. People make their own choices, and nobody who smokes doesn't know the risks associated with it.
That's real fuckin liberal of you, OP. Trying to tell others what they can and can't do and trying to make it impossible for them to do it cause "muh I know what's best for you".
Kill yourself OP.
Jacob Hill
Maybe you did it wrong
David Powell
I bet your breath is repulsive. Do you have a curry for lunch on top of that?
Ryan Jenkins
Nah, I got really sick one of the times because I went too fast. I inhaled
Joseph Walker
>Hitler did it which means you should literally not think for yourself, hahaha you guys say you're Nazis but you're not lol checkmate back to plebbit! I'm with her now
Brandon Parker
>should be taxed higher I don't think that anyone should be taxed. On a side note it's a eugenic process to kill off the garbage people who smoke the most - mestizos, castizos, negroes, chinks, Slav bydlos, Anglo chavs e.tc
Nolan Ross
I approve this message.
Jeremiah Robinson
I think it's a valid argument to increase taxes from the standpoint of, "they're not going to quit, might as well milk them for all they're worth." It's exactly like the lottery, in my house we call it the Stupid Tax.
Christopher Garcia
Makes sense. Every girl at uni who smokes, looks and dresses like a slut.
Cadmium is aggressively carcinogenic in very minute doses; if cadmium were accumulating like that you'd see cancer rates among smokers comparable to cancer rates among at risk industrial laborers.
Connor Carter
Why do people drink?
Gabriel Bell
Next time wait seven seconds to gauge how much nicotine you took in per puff. That's about how long it takes to hit your brain.
Cooper Clark
Because if we don't we die
Nathaniel Stewart
thats because you never heard of nicotine receptors and what they do and how nicotine bonds to them. yes they are named after nicotine and when you smoke it leads to decrease of stress levels because nicotine bonds on those receptors first instead of something else what is produced when you are in stress.
Jordan Ramirez
anti smoking commercials have been pumped into their brains since they were children
Noah Howard
>depression Here goy, eat plastic food, drink spiked water, give us all your personal info and be addicted staring at a smart device, play video games all day, don't go in the sun, we care about your health. Don't smoke you'll be depressed.
We care about your mental and physical health.
LEL If you don't smoke you're a blue pilled loser.
Jose Ramirez
Yeah true, I suppose its a good way to find out how brainwashed somebody is, generally speaking speaking most people I know who smoke are far less brainwashed than those who don't
Ian Sanchez
This is how cigarette packs look in Slovenia
Henry Cruz
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16337291 Cortisol is what you're talking about. It's basically bitch juice, and smoking causes an excess of it.
Kevin Adams
You're gonna die one day anyways. It may be smoking, you may choke on a chicklet, get blown up by a dune coon, car crash, etc.
My brother is an Alex Jones eat only super organic super healthy shit and takes those placebos the dude sells.
Guess what? Never leaves the house except for martial arts (he works there too) and comes straight home. He won't ever have one thing outside of his pure diet, even just for a special occasion. Now he won't go to Thanksgiving or other family holiday dinners because the food isn't fuckin healthy enough, and my grandma makes decent healthy meals.
The guy won't have a gf anytime soon cause he won't leave the house, watches anime and smokes weed all day. Great life, but he doesn't experience anything.
Now he will live a long healthy life alone and unfulfilled.
Gabriel Hill
Just google cigarettes and cadmium. It's not some hidden knowledge.
Nicholas Lewis
have you seen that new one? it's something to the effect of "be the generation that ends smoking".
i'm amazed that anyone remotely thinks that's possible. people have been smoking shit for thousands of years.
Nathaniel Allen
Yeah its fucking disgusting and a waste of ink, also here in the UK our tobacco is taxed at such a ridicolous rate which primarily effects poor people
fuck you anti smoking authoritarian pro government cunts, why the fuck are you even on Sup Forums?
Christopher Green
why do people drink caffeine? why do people smoke weed? why do people have hot showers? why do people eat dairy? why do people consume sugar shit? why do people eat grains? why do people masturbate? why do people eat legumes? why do people eat beans? why do people not workout? why do people cut of their dicks? why do people do drugs? why do people over eat? why do people want attention?
because they are weak inferior genetic trash that should kill themselves, thats why op.