Can there ever be such a thing as libertarian left?

Can there ever be such a thing as libertarian left?
Even leftist anarchism revolves around collectivism and the abolition of workplace hierarchy, which you would need a state to enforce.

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See: Catalonia. No state necessary just direct action by the people.

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Libertarianism was originally leftist.

So what about the people who don't support it? Is it just assuming that everybody is like-minded?

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No, user, it isn't.

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Activists formed cells and went around murdering them, of course.

No. Collectivism is inherently anti-liberty.

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no, the ideology of the left is INTRINSICALLY TOTALITARIAN AND PRO SLAVERY

No, since libertarians see the government (not unfettered capitalism) as the 'problem' whereas today's lefts see it as a representation of the collective public and, therefore, the only solution.

Only to the extent that marxists don't believe in government but, unlike libertarians, they also don't believe in capitalism.

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Fat acceptance was always supposed to be libertarian left. But they always go full commie when the doctor bills arrive.

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The thing about decentralization is you can be a part of another localized group.

Libertarian left do see the government as the problem though. It does exist but its a small group. It will not be the majority soon though

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Well that was before collectivism became necessary in the class struggle against collectivists.

It's the original left actually before Rothbard stole the term libertarian for his own retarded movement.

Imagine political correctness by everyone in your family. You can't say anything against the concensus but you won't be punished, only ostracized via social action. I think that's the basic model but just like an cap it'll breakdown when it gets too large

I'm still not sure

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Those are the extremists, though. Which on either side can be bad.

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I mean I like the ideas of libertarian socialism but I do think it is quite utopian.

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catalonia was never leftist anarchist
it was some sperglords in some cities and they didn't last even a year as catalans themselves hated them
commies destroyed the spanish republic

The state workers have moar authority than Eric Cartman.

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Everything being run by a trade union is exactly the same as everything being run by the state.

Authoritarian right should be Pinochet's helicopter

>literally 3 armed militias controlling people
>no state!
Almost any nationalist government had less state on top of the individual than "anarchist" Catalonia. Lefties are really dumb.

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Doesn't Noam Chomsky claim to be a left libertarian?

I talked to a self proclaimed left libertarian last year. Couldn't get a handle on what he actually believed, he just struck me as a run of the mill liberal who claimed left libertarianism so he could disown embarrassing aspects of the left while still shilling for Bernie with a straight face

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Right wing and left wing are huge memes and don't mean anything, you seem to think it means anti-collectivist vs collectivist but right wingers usually push religion and nationalism which lefties tend to hate.

Yes, there can. And it will be one giant ball of contradiction if applied to anything larger than a community of a few hundred or a few thousand. What there cannot be is an internally consistent libertarian left.

I don't think it necessitates no state at all. Leftist anarchists are the left-wing equivalent to ancaps. Most right libertarians I know don't want to abolish the state completely. Same deal with left libertarians.

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No, controlling someone's wealth (money, or production) means you control them. The liberal left is a myth

>The liberal left is a myth
Objectively false.

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The concept of mutual aid in many of these systems is more important than the idea of taxation and government spending. What's more, even in a right-wing country, it's possible that corporations and their allies in government would have economic control over the people. This is actually quite common.

Libertarian doesnt neccisarilly mean no government in practice.

Libertarians have an ideal which is unattainable, but strive for the maximum of liberty / freedom which requires some amount of government to attain. There is a libertarian left, really the ideal would probably look about the same as libertarian right, the difference is their approach.

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>work 60-70 hours a week
> pay taxes
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Giving customer service to a person who is stealing from you is not a liberal idea
If you have zero say where your money gets to go you have no freedom.

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Idk man I've been to catalunya, every goddamn apartment and house had the flag hanging out a window

All real libertarians are leftist. Anyone claiming to be a libertarian and right wing is just a fascist, which is the opposite of libertarian and liberty.

I answer a few things super right wing but end up here. I think my non-religious and hedonistic views place me here. Also, i do believe in nation and people but don't just necassarily believe we should blindly follow authority. So, i get placed here.

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Anarcho socialist here. It makes sense in my wildest fantasies. Just get people to contribute and carry their own weight.

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Libertarian socialism is as much of an oxymoron as anarcho-communism. A hundred percent.

>people should be free to do what they want as long as they behave in this predefined fashion where there will be no enforcement of said behavior by any real system
t. Noam "2smart5logic" Chomsky

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No one is blindly following authority idiot. It's just that some authorities are so good you should follow them.

Having public options funded by taxes that can be defunded by private business. Essentially free market socialism.

Yes, life is unfair, but you should never punish people for doing well in life.

Letting people enjoy their success makes them more likely to help out those in need.

Libertarianism is leftism you retard.

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The problem isn't setting it up, but keeping it that way. Government (if not kept in check) will always expand. You're living proof of that, LOTFHOTB my dick.

Greedy people are always going to be greedy. Rich do not give to the poor unless there is a system in place that forces them to do so.

>Yes, life is unfair, but you should never punish people for doing well in life.
Taxes aren't punishment.

>Letting people enjoy their success makes them more likely to help out those in need.
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