Sup Forums - COMMUNISM GENERAL

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=CmOUDMAtRt4
google.com/amp/s/revisesociology.com/2014/02/10/marxist-perspective-family/amp/
businessinsider.com/how-china-went-from-communist-to-capitalist-2015-10/#in-1978-deng-xiaoping-a-chinese-revolutionary-and-veteran-of-the-communist-party-was-eager-to-adopt-capitalist-methods-and-reforms-in-order-to-stimulate-economic-growth-and-restore-confidence-in-the-party-he-and-us-president-jimmy-carter-signed-an-historic-accord-in-1979-reversing-decades-of-china-us-tension-4
cbc.ca/news/world/cuba-capitalism-economy-entrepreneur-socialist-communist-1.3509852
bigstory.ap.org/article/a7038453c4234c1eb3bb026a355245d4/cuba-legalize-small-and-medium-sized-private-businesses
youtube.com/watch?v=BocmFOVUBCQ
youtube.com/watch?v=CFrBYI3Ntro
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OGAS
au.af.mil/au/afri/aspj/airchronicles/aureview/1967/mar-apr/sleeper.html
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

go starve a ukrainian you faggot

Hi comrade!

Let's raise some class consciousness as usual.

>a ukrainian
>cucktalist burger education

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (French: De chacun selon ses facultés, à chacun selon ses besoins; German: Jeder nach seinen Fähigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedürfnissen) is a slogan popularised by Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Program.The principle refers to free access and distribution of goods, capital and services.In the Marxist view, such an arrangement will be made possible by the abundance of goods and services that a developed communist system will produce; the idea is that, with the full development of socialism and unfettered productive forces, there will be enough to satisfy everyone's needs.

mag ik u vriendelijk verzoeken dood te vallen met uw abjecte links radicale onzin? Hartelijk dank.

Jew spotted

what happened to spainfag?

Hang every Communist.

HI comrade, our struggle is eternal against the hordes of cucktalists. But we should bring the enlightenment to the unwashed masses of Sup Forums about the Communism.

Fuck off commie scum :^)

Why does communism constantly try and destory the family`

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>posts a bunch of capitalist liberals

There's literally nothing wrong with nationalism, prove me wrong.
pro tip: you can't

>youtube.com/watch?v=CmOUDMAtRt4
Reminder that a communist economy is intrinsically impossible
Reminder that all commies are in denial and think that reality is secondary to their feel good fantasies.

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Yes, the newest world superpower just happens to be a Communist State. Checkmate, brazilianigger.

Not an argument

the soviet union had the first women's day and the rest come from the frankfurt school

Communism is all about breaking up the nuclear family...

google.com/amp/s/revisesociology.com/2014/02/10/marxist-perspective-family/amp/

In the context of the theory of Marxist revolutionary struggle, vanguardism is a strategy whereby the most class-conscious and politically advanced sections of the proletariat or working class, described as the revolutionary vanguard, form organizations in order to draw larger sections of the working class towards revolutionary politics and serve as manifestations of proletarian political power against its class enemies.

In theory, the revolutionary vanguard is not intended to be an organization separate from the working class that attempts to place itself at the center of the movement and steer it in a direction consistent with its own ideology. It is instead intended to be an organic part of the working class that comes to socialist consciousness as a result of the dialectic of class struggle.

Filho da puta, volta para a merda do teu barraco na favela.

how about instead of those shitty pasta you reply to or

> communist

What's the matter,toothpaste? Were one of your ancestors killed by Franco?

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sage in all fields

don't bump this garbage.

Cringe-tier

Lefties aren't funny

china has not been communist since 1978. You idiots don't even know the first thing about communism.

Your opinion

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Its a mixed economy

>china
>communist

You are retarded. Read up on Deng Xiaoping who adopted capitalist reforms.

China became the economic powerhouse only after he allowed private companies and private property again. China is a successful capitalist country, not communist.

>he thinks 2d waifus would ever support communist

kek. Maybe Ouran host Club is more your speed.

Aka capitalist one.

businessinsider.com/how-china-went-from-communist-to-capitalist-2015-10/#in-1978-deng-xiaoping-a-chinese-revolutionary-and-veteran-of-the-communist-party-was-eager-to-adopt-capitalist-methods-and-reforms-in-order-to-stimulate-economic-growth-and-restore-confidence-in-the-party-he-and-us-president-jimmy-carter-signed-an-historic-accord-in-1979-reversing-decades-of-china-us-tension-4

McDonald's exists out the ass there for fucks sake.

>the collapse of the shitty socialist regimes are america's fault
>They're not real socialism
>Communist societies were not real communism

I hear that active jet engines are actually just a portal to another dimension where your broken logic when it comes to economics actually makes sense

Have you ever tried going through it? You should, it'd do the whole world a favor

Yeah but the communist revolution in china was shit from the start it was bound to lose. They fucked up their 5 year plans

SO HERE I AM

DOING EVERYTHING I CAN

HOLDING ON TO WHAT I AM

PRETENDING [spoiler]MY COUNTRY WON'T STARVE TO DEATH ON THE RUINS OF THE UTOPIA THAT I DREAMED OF[/spoiler]

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You literally posted this to me at least 5 times, and I replied explaining to you why that makes no sense in all those 5 times. It's like your thoughts are incapable of adapting to new information.

>"this country with a sub-south america gdp per capita is a communist super power!"
>"this country that is growing by backpedaling commie policy proves communism works!"

i forget the exact numbers but in 1978, 1% of China's wealth was held in the private sector. Now it's larger than 70%
They're not as free as USA but capitalism is what saved them from the crushing famines caused by communism.

they are mostly capitalist with some sizable sprinklings of communism left over

Well communsim needs a goal and capitalsim works for stagnation thats why capitalism in theory works short term. Hell america almost turned communist but the use "TOTAL WAR" aka war Communsim

>McDonald's CEO makes 8 million
>420 000 McDonald's employers

>8 000 000/ 420 000
>McDonald's CEO, exploits from the workers a whopping 19 bucks per year.
>that's actually one of the worst CEO to worker gap and people use it to bitch about capitalism all the time

Wait, it gets better

>Federal government will take at least 10% in taxes from the worker
>being horribly pessimistic and assuming a McDonald's worker only makes 10k a year
>governments takes 1 000 from him.
>let's be horribly generous and assume 80% of this money is very well kept and spent
>government workers will still be taking 10 times more than a CEO

Tell me again how capitalism is oppressing you. A tiny flaw a commie collectivist economic system would wipe out 100 times more from workers than any free enterprise that respects individual rights in history.

>This autistic spainard and his gommie threads

Do you have a fetish for getting shit on on a daily basis?

No, it's literally because communism is fucking dogshit and all the countries who try to adopt it collapse on themselves or go back to capitalism.

Even Cuba is beginning to allow private business and private property again.

cbc.ca/news/world/cuba-capitalism-economy-entrepreneur-socialist-communist-1.3509852
bigstory.ap.org/article/a7038453c4234c1eb3bb026a355245d4/cuba-legalize-small-and-medium-sized-private-businesses

>america was going to be communist

Nope.

Please fuck off back to leftypol and this neet spainard is upset his ancestors were slaughtered by franco like the pigs they were.

Sometimes I wonder is he's the absolute RUSECRUISE master

Whup Whup Whup Whup

as a chronic (you) junkie myself I have to say it is very addicting. plus the mods want this kind of shit around.

Mexico is a clear example of capitalism gone wrong. Cartels are just business men.

>Thats americfags communists
>Mexican communists

Yes it was mongoloid
WW2 Much?

They basicly forced companies to produce shit for the war,coined by capitalist total war AKA WAR COMMUNISM

this pic is horseshit, mods at /leftypol/ ban anything as long as enough people complain about it. you get banned for posting feminist articles.

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Its free

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>The criminals violating the law are simply capitalists gone wrong

oh yeah, that isn't a strawman at all

>numerous spelling and grammar mistakes
>"HURR MUH GRAPHIX MAKE ME RIGHT!!!"
>ebil gabiteliasm

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I can feel the political climate shifting already, great thread comrades. Soon Sup Forums will be Communist just like us. Keep posting.

Are you retarded can you read nigger they're not violating the law they fucking control the government.

Lets take Sup Forums from the fascists

>liberals constantly co-opt and take credit for socialist movements and achievements
>"not an argument"
Shut the fuck up.

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HEIL CHÊ!

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Stop redistributing the wealth to Jews

Can you hear it commies?

youtube.com/watch?v=BocmFOVUBCQ

The media lies. Unless they are confirming my beliefs. t. amerishart

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Communism slaughtered 100 million people in the 20th century.

Marxist-Leninists had their chance and blew it, stop trying to revive this meme and look at other Marxist solutions

SALUTON Mi amikoj this is now an Esperanto thread.
Our digital home was nuked 2 moons go

Kek Same can be said about capitalsim

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Capitalism has enslaved billions whats your point

Fuck off CIA

>obvious leftypol raiding threads don't get deleted

sage this communist shit. at least make the threads different you fucking lemming pinkos.
start up the rotors!
youtube.com/watch?v=CFrBYI3Ntro

god so much fedora in that first post. literally walking stereotypes.

Fuck you CIA

report raiding threads

You reek of blood.

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Strawman

>my strawmen are arguments and your arguments are strawmen

>seize the means of production
>kill everyone who can actually operate the means of production
>starve
wow capitalcuckalists btfo

Marx also wrote that between capitalist and communist society, there would be a transitory period known as the dictatorship of the proletariat.During this preceding phase of societal development, capitalist economic relationships would gradually be abolished and replaced with socialism. Natural resources would become public property, while all manufacturing centers and workplaces would become socially owned and democratically managed. Production would be organized by scientific assessment and planning, thus eliminating what Marx called the "anarchy in production". The development of the productive forces would lead to the marginalization of human labor to the highest possible extent, to be gradually replaced by automated labor.

>Production would be organized by scientific assessment and planning
How will they do this without market based pricing mechanisms? If you are going to keep this shitty raid going, then at least defend yourfucking ideology.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OGAS

au.af.mil/au/afri/aspj/airchronicles/aureview/1967/mar-apr/sleeper.html

>it's the internet but better!

Sweet, now there'll be another government funded information network to morph into a porn repository and shitposting web.

obvious troll is obvious
i thought Sup Forums was smarter than this

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Seems like they failed :^)

They were never implemented to begin with (never tested) , an error in my opinion , we can always learn from the past mistakes for future endeavors.