How did we lose the Vietnam war?

How did we lose the Vietnam war?

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Communism is not a force to be reckoned with

>was
feels good to be living in 2017 with no more communism

Vietnam is still socialist you retard

Poor and expensive logistics, no will to fight since it wasn't really being fought over anything vitally important to the national spirit, happened at the same time as a subversive leftist/communist cultural movement, a whole conflagration of shit really. We never should have been there in the first place anyway, Vietnam basically ended up becoming state capitalist and a respectable country without us.

Generally low morale in the war as it continued. People started to feel like there was no real reason to fight it. Meanwhile, the gooks needed to stay alive. Also some shitty management at times.

LOL

LBJ was a leftie and was also a pussy when it comes to war. He sabotaged the military by delaying the ordering of critical air strikes, and finishing them off after the Tet offensive.

The commies knew they were done for after the Tet, but the (((MEDIA))) reported it from their own perspective, which was left leaning, and sympathetic to commies.

The commies were ready to surrender when suddenly the USA pulled out of the war, to their suprise.

So, they just reorganised and a couple years later they won the war.

Of course their communist system, like every communist system, collapsed about 20 years later.

Hippies. We could've wiped out the commies, but the protests back home forced us to leave prematurely.

By choosing the wrong ally at every turn. Frogs and then chinks.
Seriously.

a mess of strategies and propaganda

We didn't. Our pull-out game was just too strong

Media said that if we fight our enemies, they win

>Generally low morale in the war as it continued
that's due to the (((MSM)))

there's a video of mad dog mattis talking about this somewhere. He said that all the military commanders and everyone involved knew they had great military successes, but the media back home was sabotaging it by not reporting it accurately, and having retarded *studies majors delivering their opinions on the news instead of the cold facts, which was military victory after military victory for the USA

Oh and of course betraying Viet Minh too.
Fucking shit, Uncle Sam. The Jews are better allies.

US didnt go all out and tactical nuke their asses.

it wasn't hippies.

it was the media giving hippies more coverage than their numbers warranted.

Leadership not willing to do what was necessary to win a guerrilla war.

See the Second Boer War for details.

your country was a shithole before france came in and brought civilisation to your asses, and as soon as france left you became a shithole again

the war would have never ended till the last vietnamese would have been killed

>all these so called redpilled folks

We didn't lose. The goals of the Vietnam war were:
Cost a shitton of money
Cause a shitton of chaos
Lose messily

I'd say all of those were achieved.

that's what the leftist media wants you to believe

the fact is that the reds were preparing to surrender after the tet offensive. then the usa pulled out because the media at home had brainwashed everyone into believing the war was unwinnable, when they were literally a week or two away from winning

> left
Kicked out. People like you really deserve a long trip to the nearest rubber plantation.

Wtf. Thailands by Vietnam?! I swear it was further

Did we really lose? Polls show most Vietmanese have a favorable opinion of the US and anymore they are communist in name only.

Becuase we didnt kick russia back to moscow after WW2

leave it to the gooks to bite the hand that feeds them

Wasn't fought to be won, plain and simple.

You can't "occupy" a country and play police when a determined guerilla faction is willing to do anything to win.

Not to mention we had our hands tied the whole time. NVA and Vietcong had massive stashes of weapons and artillery in cambodia and sneak into the south. We couldn't even cross into there, we couldn't invade N. Vietnam, and every fucking time we "conquered" a territory we would abandon it.

I swear, it was just a fucking excuse for (((Military Industrial complex))) to burn and earn cash. The whole thing was a waste and utterly retarded.

just the communist ones

leave it to the roos to get overrun by emus and then chinks

Because America has never fought a real war

We lost because Sup Forums didn't exist yet
If we were there we'd have our weaponized autism on the Vietnamemes
One get about Vietnam losing and kek would make it so

That's why we put so many air bases there famalamalam.

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Check the gets in this very thread.

Because there was never a plan to win the war. You can't win a war when you never even attempt to defeat the enemy.

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We ran out of people to kill.

I would like to see where you got that information from

also that sounds a lot like what the krauts said after WWI

Nice try motherfucker, go shill your honeypot somewhere else.

Just by the map of Vietnam it makes no sense we pull up in boats along their entire shore and trap them like rats along their border
Why was this so hard? I mean look it's a straight line facing the ocean

Hey so I've always wondered...
How did that whole communism thing work out for you guys. Aside the war and all did you end of being repressed by the iron fist of international communism like we thought? Or did things turn out ok?

How is the Vietnam war taught in Vietnam? My family hosted an exchange student but I never got the chance to ask her. Just curious because we Americans really didn't know why we were really fighting except as a way to challenge the Russians.

Also here is the only Vietnam themed image in my folder.

> What is an inland
> What are jungles
> What are transport networks
> What are Cambodia and Laos

we weren't allowed to invade N. Vietnam.

american soldiers lacked the will and spirit to fight

the dragon awakens

they kicked your ass too chink.

CHARLIE DONT SURF

You're very dumb.

It's because your goals weren't just limited to destroying the enemy but also propping up a shit regime that would have been overthrown by rice farmers within a week of you leaving, like South Vietnam, or France.

no real goal in mind. the war was just a political game and a place to spend money on military gear.

i didnt even think this site was allowed there

It's this.

>implying that didnt happen because of us

The CIA screwed up.
We've lost every war webe been involved in since they came into existence.

Wat
WAT IS THIS REAL?!
war is so fucking stupid why couldn't we? Who would even go to war if there was a homebase rule that took up half the country

We needed a testing ground for new equipment and strategies and the MIC needed money.

True. I wrote McNamera once and replied that the US was afraid China would get involved if we invaded North Vietnam.

it mostly had to do with cold war tensions, we bombed Hanoi a few times, but never invaded for fear of getting russia and china involved.

We basically just sat in the south patrolling trying to kick out the North and trying to teach the cucked south to fight for themselves, never worked.

ok this is like the 4th time i have seen you reply like clockwork to a vietnam thread
is this bait? everyone knows how hard you got fucked.

By not impregnating thier whores

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> repressed by the iron fist of international communism
PRC has little power over the decision making in Hanoi, while USSR just didn't do much. Check wikileaks if you don't believe me.
Patriotic war against imperialism. It's just another subject to be learned by heart, used in exams and then forgotten.

but the west did win.

South east Asia are not communist puppet states.

>brought civilization
All they did was oppress and steal, the French was one of the worst colonialists in history, all their colonies had to kick them out.

We were pussies and didn't bomb the shit out of the North. The few times we did we hurt them badly.

we could've ended the war in less than a month had we used the full might of our military with MUCH less casualties.

But no, leave it to (((them))) to kill 70,000 soldiers for no good reason, except to make massive shelkels on those defense contracts.

T.

This

If we would have joined it would have been a certain victory

Is Vietnam spreading communism throughout southeast asia? Did we lose more troops than the north vietcong?

How can this be marked a loss?

By starting it

UK was actually among the first nations, if not the first, to GTFO of Vietnam.

we didn't lose more troops. I don't know how you can call it a loss when you don't even fucking try.

We turned south vietnam into a police state for 10 years and gave up when public backlash became too much.

Hmmmm...Sounds familiar

Laos and Cambodia are under communist rule now, the government is corrupt because power. I feel like we have ruined them.

socialism =\= communism

they're both horrible but communism is worse

Socialism is just as bad as Communism and should be treated as the same thing.

Yes but we actually beat the Viet Cong and after we left France and US were BTFO by them

Delusional bong.

because we let ourselves get pushed around by retarded hippies.

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> Viet Cong

> Viet Minh

Britbong in charge of illiteracy.

>thinks his country did shit AND thinks the USA got btfo somehow

>Implying they arent the exact same thing

>Cant understand how anyone could defeat the might of Vietnamese farmers

Yeah, they aren't.

we weren't suppose to win, we intentionally lost. look up rules of engagement

all wars are banking wars.

If they were the same then Vietnam would be the 51st state instead of you.

>Two communist guerrilla armies from Vietnam
Yes the exact same thing

Bad ruling elites in the south + ditching the elections. If we had chosen proxies that were acceptable to the population and competent we would have been in a much better negotiating position with the North. The South was ready to believe us. Also domestic politics.

>Implying America would have won the Vietnam war id the Viet Cong were called the Viet Minh instead
m8 they could have been called the Viet pussycats you still would have got BTFO,when is America going to realise that they cant win wars without allies?

This is complete unadulterated bullshit. The morale of the conscripts had nothing to do with CBS or fucking Jane Fonda. True believers like Mattis, State and the CIA knew it was a total shitshow for years before we left, and they also know it crippled the armed forces until Regean went on his credit card spree. We almost matured a bit after that war but we went right back to being temperamental children pointing fingers.