The party that destroyed Australia

The party that destroyed Australia.

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Isn't that the pro-business party?

Sorry don't know Australian politics I just know it's between the Liberal and Labor parties.

yes
labor supporters hate them because they don't hand out gibs

The spirit of the nation is already dead. You are only now realising it.

>Have sensible social policies and get screwed over financially
or
>have absolutely bananas 'progressive' social policies and be okay financially

gg no re, mr faceless globalist

>2017
>supporting either party
We all know that both parties are fucking over Australia in their own ways, why do Australians on this board still continue to support them? I'll never understand.

Kek confirms

>okay financially
just because you get more money from centrelink each week does not mean that the economy is better off

Yes. They ended the white Australia policy and started mass immigration to lower the price of labour so business owners could pay low wages and make more money. Before that the unions took advantage of the scarce number of workers to negotiate higher wages, more benefits, and better conditions. Labor supported white Australia because it benefitted workers better, but Labor haven't been worth supporting since Whitlam compromised their ideals.

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nobody can tell the difference between them

Just because the economy is better off doesn't mean you're benefitting from it.

Whitlam and labor ended the White Australia policy

Blaming all of your nation's political problems on one party is really stupid.

You guys always get praised as having the greatest voting system. How does it still become a 2-party system where both parties are similarly bad?

No, Harold Holt did. Menzies wanted it before him.

yes it does actually, for every factory built to produce sophisticated goods, for every person who learns how to become more productive, for every person who becomes employed, i do in the long run benefit from it. as do you.

All our problems go back to the end of white Australia and the trade protectionism of the time.

Apathy

i'm partial to yours, if w had an electoral college the people in the bush could have a say and not get dictated by what city folk think is best for a country they've never been to

Because everyone is a faggot.

Yeah, we all really benefitted from the mining boom.

true

we sure did! sadly we didn't look into the future and prepare for it, but that just means we'll have to do it now. what book are you reading to prepare yourself for the future?

That'll change now you can't just stick a 1 in a box and dump the ballot, voters need to look at the other parties now. Though most microparties are still shit.

I mean preferential voting vs first-past-the-post. Though we really have a 2-tier system where you vote for your favorite guy in the primaries then he goes against the other side of the political spectrum in the generals.

Labour and whitlam ended it

How did we?
I'm in training, not reading.

a lot of people are against the preferential vote, my mates want one man one vote system, is that what you mean by first-past-the-post?

No, Harold Holt did. Whitlam just made reinstating it illegal, which is ridiculous because it was a Labor/union policy.

If you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Liberal or Labour

come on mate you know full well that we prospered under the mining boom.

well start reading anyway, it's good for you.

What did a working class Australian get out of it?
I read literature on German idealism, but that isn't preparing me for anything.

Yes. But lets say there's a 3rd party that's fairly similar but exactly represents what you want. In FPTP you'd waste your vote while in preferential you can still have it at least count for the 1st party that still represents most what you want.

heaps of people were hired and aus made a fuck ton from it

What about those who weren't hired? What did they get?
Where did that money go that Australia supposedly made?

"The Menzies and Holt Governments effectively dismantled the policies between 1949 and 1966 and the Whitlam Government passed laws to ensure that race would be totally disregarded as a component for immigration to Australia in 1973. In 1975, the Whitlam Government passed the Racial Discrimination Act, which made racially based selection criteria unlawful."

btw, Liberals are the better party socially and economically. Get your fat lazy labor dependent ass off the dole and you would understand.

it's hard to define exactly what the working class australian got out of it, as it's effects were so broad. but this will do in a pinch.
well pick up a book on something. i'm reading bookdepository.com/Reminiscences-of-Stock-Operator-Edwin-Lefevre-Roger-Lowenstein/9780471770886 at the moment.

Did you though? Doesn't count if you didn't.

So you want the party that supports mass immigration, less affordable housing, lower wages, more globalism and less protectionism? Labor is almost as bad, but not quite.

You were so adamant with no evidence. You're obviously shilling an agenda.

Did Labor Shills lose penalty rates as well?

i wish, that would mean they would be paying me.

>heaps of people
Yeah the companies and the miners. I was speaking to a guy who owned a mine about a year ago, I asked him what the truth was about Kevin Rudd's tax on mining, and he said that Kevin Rudd was very smart trying to bring it in, because the money that was made from the mines, was leaving the country and going to the foreign companies, and he tried to stop that, and got booted out.

On the other hand Kevin Rudd wanted a big Australia, so no ty.

Can't even make money on that. How great does the economy have to be until the average Aussie sees it?

i don't understand

>lower wages
Wages decided by the market and employer. A shitter that's only worth 10 an hour will stay on welfare indefinitely cause he ain't worth the minimum wage. If he can be paid below the minimum wage he gets "experience" and his worth as an employee goes up.

It mostly went into making house prices more expensive. If you didn't ride the mining and housing boom you got fucked hard and you would be so much better off if it never happened.

offshore to chinese companies because of all the lobbying against the mining tax

Odd how Labor nowadays claim to support workers globally, to reconcile their anti-labour immigration policies, yet want to increase trade with China, a country with noted human rights abuses towards workers.

yeah, i'm for preferential voting and I don't vote for the major two so I know my vote isn't going to them, really its going to whoever they chose. a lot of people find it misleading though
>vote for one party, all of a sudden it seems like they're in bed with a major party sorting out a deal for your vote.
eh, its not perfect but I think its ok
? they weren't in the industry so maybe indirectly they got some extra work but you asked how it helped the working class, lots of tradespeople got a job
I wasn't old enough but my dad went from a 45k job in the city working on locos to 110k 3week on 1 off
the chopping and changing - there will be, there wont be, it'll be a high income tax, a mining tax, an export tax - that made it seem unstable, we should've just implemented it and stuck to it

This. Last I heard 75% of mining is foreign owned.

How long do you have to work as a slave until you have enough experience for a wage? With all those jobs around it must be easy to get both experience and full time employment, right?

stop being such a defeatist and harden up

Just saw on channel 7 they're gonna crack down on foreign buyers. It's probably just pretend crack down but we'll see. Story on soon.

No, you said that a stronger economy was good for everyone, but the mining boom didn't help everyone, it fucked a lot of people.

A few months at least, the guys who start as maccas never seem to stay there long. Never known one to be there more than a year before they've gone into retail or hospitality.

they got taxed
who'd it fuck over?

that's thee past though

Mild crackdown. Gooks can only buy half of any new apartment developments.

Still without One Nation that may not have happened.

exchange student in Melbourne here. AMA

>the party that fails in every country
FTFY

And they are only considering it.

If they'd advertised based on that they would've gotten it through. They might even get support from the nationals.

So we should accept all the shit the globalist Liberals and Labor (since Whitlam) force on us? Maybe we don't want mass immigration cheapening labour prices. Maybe we don't want home ownership being unattainable for the average Australian. Maybe we don't want foreign ownership of land and foreign owned extraction of natural resources. Maybe we don't want our industries being sold overseas or going under because Chinese slaves can make it cheaper. Maybe we want protectionism, nationalism, and labour laws. Why should we eat shit so globalist Jews and their puppets can profit?

mate, stay on topic

They didn't get taxed, all the profit went overseas now we have less resources and no money.

Stick the fuck to your own politics. Our liberals aren't your retarded liberals.

you're a fuckwit
they got taxed more than any other industry

How will you feel when shilling gets outsourced to India?
That's because Maccas has to pay you minimum wage once you're 18.

Source?

yes we fucked up, the question now is what are we going to do about it?

Gotten the mining tax through? Yeah. They're incompetent the left. They think just being an inner city sneerer is enough effort.

They change jobs before that. You've also demonstrated that a higher minimum wage keeps people out of the workforce, they never hire below 18.

Only LibDems can save us

Try to prove me wrong.

>Pro tip; you can't.

shilling?
you don't have a clue
where are you're sources on them not being taxed
learn to read
minerals.org.au/news/mining_industry_pays_almost_117_billion_in_taxes_and_royalties

mining-tax.com.au/

All the parties are shit mate

Australian liberal party is (supposed to be) economically liberal and socially conservative.
What you call liberal is socially liberal and economically a joke.

It was a team effort really...

You two are fucking retarded, you aren't eligible for Minimum wage until you're 21 in Australia. If you're 16 working at Maccas they only have to pay you $7.

Expel the immigrants, pogroms against Jews, confiscate Jewish owned funds for industry start ups, end most trade agreements, cease funding to fluff shit, nationalise industries, and end environmental conservatism.

Wrong image, you forget Labor.jpg

Seriously there is room to take over the liberal party like trump took the republican. Instead you fools would rather support socialists because your dumb fuck Irish catholic ancestors have been voting Labor for almost a century.

yeah and what are you going to do yourself to get closer to those goals?

Please explain.

>Didn't mention welfare
>Didn't mention tax
>recommends labour laws
Do fuck off.

all he's going to do is whinge on an image board that someone else is responsible for his shortcomings and lack of drive

Holy shit, when was this?

>nationalise industries,
Doubly fuck off.

>one (1) nation
>5%
How will we ever recover?

So everyone should work for $5/h like Maccas pays? This is why we have labour laws, to stop exploitation.
Post the percentage they were taxed in relation to other industries.

yeah but they should stop with this memeing if they want to be taken seriously
>channels the power of kek
come on guys
youtube.com/watch?v=zPanZpNRVe8

Post on pol.
I mean the Jews really are not the problem here, it is paranoid schizophrenia to attribute it to them rather than the chinks I mean sorry, honorary Asians as the weebs say.

They're just libertarians. Socially and economically. They call for less gun restriction and welfare to fuck off. That's the simple rundown of them

Can you tell me how they work?
One nation seems a bit too chaotic with poor leadership and decisions and i cant see a future with them
From what i have seen on the libdems website they seem just a bit too libertarian, as in freedom is above the security of the nation(economic, defence and civil/culturally) and its future

because Australians are dumb
Thank god I have 3 citizenship, i'm getting off this fucking ride as soon as I'm finished my degree

Honorary Aryans lol

Don't come back, zhang

they are the closest thing to libertarians we have

t. Half abo Irish bogan

Compulsory voting for brainless sheep.

It's not exploitation if they work there by choice. Slow immigration, labour supply drops, as it drops they'll raise wages as a response to retain staff or they'll have a stack of unstaffed restaurants.