>tfw I lean left in everything except fucking immigration
Who here can relate? I don't give a fuck about gay marriage or abortion, I feel like people can do whatever they like. And I also want high taxes and a good social welfare state, because I think it has worked out great. But for the love of god I just fucking hate NIGGERS and just wish they would fucking disappear already.
I just wish the left would just stop shilling for these inbred animals. Makes me sad.
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>dont care about gay marriage or abortion
am i wrong to this this is a conservative stance? that you don't want government influence in what people do?
Same here. Welcome to national social democracy. We need to work out European natsoc, to differentiate us from US neo-nazis
only if you are conserving liberals.
Conservatives have often used religious ideas to ensure homos can't go mainstream. Even if they allow them to screw in private, they were against public displays or acceptance.
I think there are a LOT of formerly-leftists that are moving towards conservatism because they see how retarded the left has become. They are pro gay/trans/whatever rights only because it doesn't make sense to oppose them on a personal freedom level. And honestly, even at a societal level, it is unlikely homos are gonna make our birth rates decline.
The left has gone total idiot with their immigration and diversity nonsense, and intelligent people realise this.
Unfortunately, we'll end up overcorrecting a bit and losing some civil liberties in the process. Oh well.
I can kind of relate, even though I don't lean left on anything, just slightly closer to center on some things.
It's pretty much impossible to deviate even slightly from the generally accepted Sup Forums worldview without being dismissed as a shill or liberal.
There would be no gay ''marriage'' without the government forcing it onto people.
Marriage between same sex couples does not exist. It has to be redefined by the government and pushed by force.
I can understand your position. However, I take a conservative stance on a lot of things because I live in a city that's 40% nigger and I don't want them to leech off of me and other whites.
There would be no marriage at all. It's a state enforced contract.
why does pol still think degeneracy should be normalized and allowed to spread its influence? im against gay marriage and abortion because i dont want my son getting fucked in the ass and i want grandchildren.
I know how you feel man. I'm pretty I guess "libertarian" in the sense that I don't really give a shit what others do, but (sand)niggers are just fucking tumors. Asians and Mexicans are fine I guess.
Wouldn't even be an issue if we still beat up gays
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>I don't care if having fucked tens of men by their mid 20s becomes the new normal for women
>The past doesn't matter
Feminism is a sexual strategy to fuck Chad's and cuck betas. This is what you're supporting if you do not oppose feminism.
Fucking cuck swedes.
which is why that compass is absurd, it's using its estimation on American social politics which are completely out of whack with others.
I lean left on a lot of stuff as well but I'm a National Socialist, shit like abortion would be super-restricted. As far as gays go no marriage and severe penalties if caught so keep it secret and I don't care
you've not been redpilled enough, try lurking more in /pol
>why does pol still think degeneracy should be normalized and allowed to spread its influence?
I just don't really give a shit about fags. I don't care. Even if fags get married, it just doesn't wiggle my dick one way or the other
I've been thinking about my views, and I guess I would consider myself a nationalist social democrat. The problem with that label is that it sounds like nazi (NSDAP=national socialist democratic workers party, doesn't fly well outside pol). Then again I would like to see muzzies and niggers sent back to their ancestral homelands, so I guess nazi isn't that far off
I can relate, only it's the sandpeople and their sandideology I desperately want to keep out of my country.
We have very few nogs and only let in those with money in the bank and a job lined up so a few more wouldn't hurt.
We have let in too many Chinese though.
I don't actively oppose trans etc right but having every bowel movement of a tiny minority of people perfectly accommodated for is very low on my concerns list.
Climate change is caused by people and will be bad news for my kids, this is the primary fact that keeps me voting left.
Leaning left isn't necessarily a bad thing. Except when you lean left for people you don't know, who are not of your culture or race. Why would you try to help a country in let's say Africa who doesn't give a fuck about you. The main reason that everything is so fucked up there is because Africans are living in Africa. Better yet: they average normie thinks that helping such countries is a good thing. In reality you are extending their misery.
>Climate change is caused by people and will be bad news for my kids, this is the primary fact that keeps me voting left.
I am right on most issues but this really fuckin yanks my balls dude. Why is it even considered a political issue? Pollution/littering/deforestation are just a detriment to EVERYONE
not wanting mass immigration used to be a leftist position, back when the left gave a shit about workers.
I consider my opposition to mass immigration one of my liberal positions.
>tfw I lean left in everything except fucking immigration
My liberal brother is also like this. He reads reddit a lot, consumes lots of leftist stuff, but he hates BLM, SJW's and thinks we should stop with immigration and send out almost every single refugee. When I have asked, he mostly calls himself a "centrist" and takes pride in it. He also likes Bernie a lot, hates Trump but also hates Clinton for being a neocon.
I am personally quite far right myself and redpilled on kikes and Hitler but if the liberals would AT VERY FUCKING LEAST be redpilled on mass immigration, that would be a huge step for the better.
People who are closer to the center and open to the arguments I can respect, who are open to have a discussion about dangers of immigration and such, but people who are textbook libshits and unironically mention the wage gap and how white people are evil, those people are beyond saving and need to be gassed.
I would say it's not that I lean left on those issues, I just don't really know that much about it and don't care. Maybe a welfare state is a good idea, maybe gay marriage isn't so bad, I don't really give a shit, but fucking NIGGERS REEEEEEEE GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY
I'm with you OP
Liberal outside the US = libertarian in the US.
Progressives have taken over the 'liberal' world in your country.
I'm with you. I don't care who fucks who. I don't even care what colour your skin is. I just don't want you bringing your backward dumpster culture to my country.
>immigration is a leftist idea
can you please stop
Moderate cucks need to fuck off back to
Same here.
It's a shame leftism and cuckoldry go hand in hand nowadays. Can't have one without the other.
That makes you a nazi
>Climate change is caused by people
Kill yourself.
You're not really a moderate in any sense of the word if you're an ethnic nationalist and socially lenient or apathetic at the same time. Like if you were super pro-gay marriage, pro-welfare state, etc. but also wanted to deport all non-whites you're not really a Moderate, you're technically a centrist in the poorly defined political context, but you're an extremist centrist, which isn't moderate.
who is this semen demon?
If you agree with abortion, you must logically agree with the execution of retards.
It's the same thing. Killing living flesh that we have given birth to, just because it's not useful to us.
Immigrants are benefit to society after the second generation
I generally support those things as well. Though its long you aught to watch this.
who is?
Yeah dude I can feel your struggle. Fucking sucks that national socialism is so forbidden in the real world when it's the only ideology that makes sense. Everyone should just care for their own people and their own state without a bunch of 60 IQ somalians roaming around and sucking welfare. Why is that hard to grasp for normies?
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Your a national socialist. Which is cool, because that is basically what the EU should have been; a large ethnostate for white (analogous to aryan) people.
>I think it has worked out great
no it didnt
It is a pyramid scheme and lead to the destruction of the family
Economically centre-left wing and socially (classical) liberal.
Marriage exists as a contract to create a legal framework to ensure children are cared for when they are created in the likely outcome of men and women living together.
As faggots cannot procreate, there's no reason to try to incorporate them.
Your welfare state worked fucking great for years until you let nonwhites move to Sweden
Just make this your number 1 policy: whites only. Everything else should be based around that
I feel it desu
No it didnt
Their birthrates were in the toilet
>I could give a fuck about gay marriage or abortion
I can't wait to strangle traitors and degenerates like you.
In what way has a welfare state ever worked?
No you kill yourself you fucking mental defective. Muh massive climate science conspiracy theory is for brainlets that rely entirely on memes to form their world view. Pathetic.
It allowed him to be a NEET and watch his country burn
Yep, well stated.
Deus vult in the meantime.
unexpected
Sounds like Nat Soc is for you
What to be done about it is a political issue. Whether or not it's a massive conspiracy to pointlessly fund wind farms or whatever has become a political issue due to decades of dedicated big oil shilling. And people here lap it up.
>NIGGERS
Muslims are even worse
Haha not really Nazi retard burger
If you lean left in everything it just means you din't understand where the left leads you to.
Like someone once said, if you are a leftist you are either a psychopath OR you didn't understand communism/socialism properly and how evil it is.
To give you an example you mentioned, you don't give a fuck about what gay people do in their private life (most people don't care too), HOWEVER you don't know the problems implied in allowing the marriage of gay people on the church OR the problems of allowing a kid to be raised by "2 Dads".
Another example, 5 years ago you would think there was no problem allow thousands of muslim migrating to Europe, you would think you were "lefty" in this subject. Now moving forward to 2017 it might be pretty clear for you the problems caused by allowing ALLAHU AKBAR all over your land.
Same applies Feminism.
Same applies Abortion.
Same applies for gun control.
Same applies for Globalism.
I know the term is pretty cliche, but you actually need to TAKE THE RED(bog)PILL. Once you do it you simply can't go back.
Largely true but it is largely the fault of the effeminate influence over policy development that has led us down this shit wreck of "compassion". Gays shouldn't be normalised. It shouldn't be illegal but they should be social outcasts not social norms.
Yes, that's the only thing I want.
Fuck off you conservative retards. Open your fucking eyes. Sweden and the other nordic countries has always been number ONE, in terms of happiness, education, health and everything. The reason why we have sunk behind is because we have invited NIGGERS and SANDNIGGERS that dont contribute to the welfare of our people like the natives do. Get rid of them and we'll always remain on top.
I understand you guys dont want to pay taxes for a welfare state that gives out healthcare to niggers in the hood that shoots and rapes people. But when your money goes to the well being of your own people, your own flesh and blood it only makes sense.
>HOWEVER you don't know the problems implied in allowing the marriage of gay people on the church
Stop sucking the popes cock you monkey and go back to your cave
>Sounds like Nat Soc is for you
It really is my ideology dude, but I cant just go out and identify as NatSoc without being hung in public. I hate that national socialism has just become more of a gas the jews thing instead of the welfare of your own people and a sense of family and togetherness.
At this point we need a pretty substantial over correction to sort the mess out. Our cities are overrun.
The welfare state created a populations that accepted invasion
Any non degenerate community has always been able to take care of itself with the government
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That makes sense, though. The nordic welfare states were doing pretty well before they decided they need to commit demographic suicide.
Homogeneous populations can handle some welfare state policies.
It's an important safeguard against manipulation. If this place wasn't to vicious it would slowly devolve into Reddit.
Survey from AMS on the consensus of it's scientists. It's the only one of it's kind done and won't be repeated, seeing as it strays from the narrative of the science being settled. The heads of the AMS and IPCC decided for them what the conclusion was.
The problem with gay marriage is that the media frames it as religious nuts vs civil rights. There is no right for people to get married by a government. The real debate is about how involved government should be. With gays, we had decades of "keep government out of the bedroom". This is actually an American conservative argument and one conservatives could understand. Gays got there way on that. Then suddenly it changed from "keep government out of the bedroom" to then "bring government back in to sanction our sex life". Gays felt they weren't equal because they couldn't marry. But on the other hand, government's role in marriage had been to incentives the creation of new tax payers (babies). Not to sanction sex couples. So then the question becomes: Is this something government should be involved in at all. Effectively bringing government back into the bedroom.
Social liberalism led to the current state of affairs. Social liberalism is egalitarianism. Social liberalism is weak. Social liberalism is nihilist. Secular laissez-faire cucks have killed the West.
Degeneracy erodes a civilizations instincts from the core.
Abortion = Apathy for human life
Gay marriage = Apathy for our traditions
Drugs = Apathy for health
All of this hedonism will erode a civilization from within.
If you hate immigration from the third world, you have to ask yourself -- "Why doesn't anyone perceive the threat?"
Decadence has eroded common sense.
It's all or nothing, you either support society and her institutions that uplift our instincts, or you support policies that destroys them.
TFW no esp EDP
Wanna erp wait pol is erp nvm hot
I'm a conservative that wishes all men were gay to increase my odds with women.
I'm against gay marriage because I believed those that wanted government out of the bedroom were serious at the time.
I'm against abortion as a contraceptive but otherwise think it should follow contract law. You can't be forced to have a baby by another or be forced to do something that will end your life. But otherwise, the contract is signed when the sperm and egg get together and one should know the risks of getting involved in contract negotiations.
If abortion is to be allowed, parents should have the option of killing their kids up until their 18th birthday. If you dealt with any of these kids, this makes perfect sense.
It's very suspicious how demonized national socialism is. At the same time strong nationalist tendencies can forseeably lead to conflict, which at this point could spell the end of the world.
The birthrates were stable like Japan and leveling off. The truth is you don't want high birthrates that's more mouths to feed what you want is steady birthrates so your population neither grows nor shrinks so the young can inherit from those who have passed on and continue it. The thing is this also means you want zero immigration
>And I also want high taxes and a good social welfare state
>because I think it has worked out great
Hahaha you dumb fuck
Your stupid country is infested with niggers and muslims BECAUSE you have a robust welfare program
If your country didnt give them free money they would go somewhere else instead (probably germany)
Same
Underrated. is the perfect example of how conservatism doesn't really exist at all.
Socialism needs young people to take care of the old though
I think there are a lot of people like you who have no choice but to either vote for SD which are retarded in every way except maybe immigration, or other parties with more proper politics regarding education, infrastructure, taxation and regulation etc, but who are 101% retarded when it comes to immigration.
We have the same problem in norway, except that our "fuck immigrants" party is in the government and are not as retarded as SD
Well, what about booting the migrant leeches and keeping the system for the crippled or the between jobs?
>posts an image that doesn't exist elsewhere on the internet showing climate scientists agreeing with the AGW hypothesis, medical scientists less so
Double digit IQ plz leave
you have a low IQ. the same mental illness that allows for faggots, trannies, and other sick shit is the same mental illness that allows foreigns to come and cuck you, rape you, and conquer you while you beg for forgiveness. youre only worried about immigration now because you fear getting blown up by a random grenade. your IQ is low as shit.
Conservativism is to conserve traditions. So yes I'd say you are wrong.
Interesting perspective
You can be authoritarian and hierarchical but still mostly socially apathetic. I fail to see how not going after gay people stops you from realizing group differences or stops you from realizing that certain people are just going to be better than others inherently due to genetics, etc.
I hate how the nazis ruined national socialism. The words themselves fit my political views perfectly, but I can't use them because of the nazis during WW2
That type of thing is more from the neo con playbook. I subscribe to an older more traditional conservativism that values smaller government that stays the fuck out of social and medical stuff. Today that gets lumped in with libertarianism, which i have sympathy for but don't entirely agree with.
They were not in the toilet it's one of the biggest in Europe. Besides with automation we wont need third worlders
>Parents should have the option to kill their kids so long as they live under their roof.
Ancient Rome allowed this.
Anti-abortion in the USA is anti-white.
>If you hate immigration from the third world, you have to ask yourself -- "Why doesn't anyone perceive the threat?"
What really eroded our civilizations was Hitler losing WW2 and being demonized afterwards. After that racism became a dirty word and we had to pretend that every ape-looking chimpnigger is equal in every way and that opposing mass immigration is literally six gorillion all over again
Infinite growth model economics is the problem here.
>Captcha: prevent spiral
Me too! I don't have problem with gays, trans, faggots, liberals, abortion, asians but I DON'T WANT fucking Moslems, Gypsies or African parasites in my country and they make over 90% of migrantion to Europe. Parasite scum 1/1.
Here we go. Great contribution.
It's because you haven't really red-pilled all the way yet. Once you realize preserving the glorious white civilization we've built is more important than libertarianism, you'll start red-pilling more. The inevitable truth you will find is that all the rules society used to have were established for a reason. When essential norms like monogamous stable marriage are destroyed civilization crumbles and goes into a period of dark decline. The attack on our values are from enemies of Western Civilization who are literally fighting to destroy our people, degeracy is their greatest weapon.
Over 50% of the gay community are pedophiles, and will once during their lifetime molest a young boy.
The Nazis didn't ruin it, propaganda did.
Over 50% of the gay community are pedophiles, and will once during their lifetime molest a young boy.
>preserving libertarianism
Did you actually read the OP?
If yes, do you know what libertarianism means?
Lurk more poast less kiddo.
>has no problem with gender delusion or killing fetuses or faggots having mass anonymous chemsex orgies
Your ideal world is not worth protecting from the barbarian hordes.
>>dont care about gay marriage or abortion
citation pls
Don't just say it's true and to google it I really want a citation