Communism general

[Samuel Johnson]

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

[Jace Miller]

commies arent people

[Eli Hughes]

Communism was invented to dumb-down society. Just like Pol Pot and Stalin tried to do. If you are intelligent, and want to remain alive and free, then don't live in a communist country.

[Gabriel Cooper]

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[Dominic Myers]

Commies are intellectually inferior. They rely on being able to rule with an iron fist. Just look at China. Their general population is dumber than rocks. They don't know anything. Why? Because their dumb ass fucking leaders don't want them to know anything. Even Google is banned in China. This is also a country that thinks it can contend in a nuclear war? If that ever happens, the USA will annihilate China. They will no longer exist. They cannot win and they know it.

[Josiah Perez]

Fuck off commie faggot

[Christian Hernandez]

Hello, comrad.

[Christopher Ward]

>Imagine Libertarians had convinced millions that they were right
>Imagine a libertarian revolution happening in countries with millions of people
>Imagine Mises ordering a thug to smash Milton Friedman's head with an iceaxe to the death for not being libertarian enough
>Imagine entire countries with extreme renaissance western libertarianism
>Imagine the more libertarianism they applied, the worst things got
>Imagine after 70 of undisputed ruling their best accomplishments were a places like China, Cuba, Vietnam, Venezuela
>Imagine they couldn't even fully apply what they promised after 70 years because society would surely collapse if they did

This is the historical reality commies live in.

[Adam Sullivan]

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[Kayden Gomez]

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

[Joseph Torres]

Not an argument.

[Henry Myers]

The only one that was even remotely close to successful though was Tito's Yugoslavia though wasn't it? He seemed to be the only one that wasn't paranoid like Hoxha, a psycho like Pol Pot, a paranoid psycho like Stalin or just plain cruel like Mao. On top of that wasn't there a guy yesterday saying that even Leninism was garbage and that Marxists should just focus on Marx and Engels' works?

[Zachary Sanders]

Fug :DDD

[Leo Stewart]

A lot of that describes quite a few disastrous countries.

[Jaxon Evans]

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[Gavin Torres]

Woah, what an amazing pic that really makes me think. Now that I've seen that anime pic, I'll ignore the fact that you can't explain even the basics of a communist economy and I'll become a communist myself. I can't believe how no one else in Sup Forums became a communist thanks to your pic spam yet. I can't believe there's only about four people defending communism in these threads, four people that are also likely in the same discord chat. You should have converted 100% of pol by now.

[Christopher Brown]

How much of the old commie statues and shit even still exist in Russia? I know Lenin's tomb is still around although people have talked about getting rid of it a few times.

[Joseph Watson]

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[Tyler Jackson]

every settlement has its own Lenin statue, at least one

there were a few Stalin statues, but even they were removed

and every town, city and whatever has its own communist statues, like my city has Lopatin - the first man who translated Kapital in russian, or Kulakov - some civil war hero I guess

maybe one day they will start removing Lenins, but those smaller figures will stay

[Jace Barnes]

Every day the same dumb thread. Every day the same dumb failed ideology.

[Jonathan Edwards]

you fucking hohol give me your adress I am going to Toronto this summer and I will fuck you in your skull

[Joseph Cooper]

P H Y S I C A L

[Aaron Richardson]

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[Jackson Bailey]

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[Kevin Cox]

say it you fucking coward, I dare you

[Justin Peterson]

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[Benjamin Turner]

youtube.com/watch?v=aO5KayvhCdI

[James Garcia]

/uig/ - Useful Idiot General

[Lucas King]

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[Christian Fisher]

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[Cameron Martinez]

I know a lot of the old commie stuff went down when the Soviet Union collapsed but most of it was in the rest of the Eastern Bloc. I know that Marx head statue is still around in East Germany and a few others though. Guess that isn't as weird as our Lenin statue in Seattle I guess although that was just some guy who bought it from Czechoslovakia.

[Jackson Hall]

soviet statue are so cool

[Jack Campbell]

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[Gavin Cox]

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[Eli Thomas]

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[Adrian Taylor]

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

[Robert Turner]

A sausage is a cylindrical meat product
usually made from ground meat,
often pork, beef or veal, along with
salt, spices and other flavourings
and breadcrumbs, with a skin around
it. Typically, a sausage is formed
in a casing traditionally made from
intestine, but sometimes from synthetic
materials. Sausages that are sold
uncooked are usually cooked in many ways,
including pan-frying, broiling and
barbecuing. Some sausages are cooked
during processing and the casing may then be removed.

Sausage making is a traditional food
preservation technique. Sausages may
be preserved by curing, drying
(often in association with fermentation or
culturing, which can contribute to preservation),
smoking or freezing.
Some cured or smoked sausages can be stored
without refrigeration. Most
fresh sausages must be refrigerated or
frozen until they are cooked.

There is a huge range of national and
regional varieties of sausages,
which differ by their flavouring or
spicing ingredients (garlic, peppers, wine, etc.),
the meat(s) used in them and their
manner of preparation.

Etymology

The word "sausage" was first used in
English in the mid-15th century,
spelled "sawsyge". [1]This word came
"...from Old North French saussiche
(Modern French saucisse)". [2]The
French word "saussiche" came "...from Vulgar Latin
*salsica "sausage," from salsicus
"seasoned with salt," from Latin salsus [meaning] "salted".[3]

History

Sausage making is an outcome of
efficient butchery. Traditionally, sausage
makers would salt various tissues
and organs such as scraps, organ
meats, blood,
and fat to help preserve them.
They would then stuff them into
tubular casings
made from the cleaned intestines
of the animal, producing the characteristic
cylindrical shape. Hence, sausages,
puddings, and salami are among the oldest
of prepared foods, whether cooked and
eaten immediately or dried to varying degrees.

[Adrian Peterson]

holy fuck those look horrible

[Thomas Stewart]

Good post.

[Nathan Taylor]

You're really politically incorrect or you're "that" type of communist that support faggots and feminist?

[Robert Turner]

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[Benjamin Martin]

communism has never been politically correct in the west

it is not real communism what you got over there

[Bentley Johnson]

Communism was pushed by the jews to convince the rich, the middle and the poor to give all their money to the revolution so they could be a classless society while bankers and dictators fucked off with their money.

[Ian Rodriguez]

Yeah, okay

[Mason Bell]

Quick rundown you say?

>They invented post-anabelian froeboid geometrics, a complex field of mathematics which only they can comprehend fully
>proud defenders of the West
>have created several black holes
>said to even have created a white hole (unconfirmed)
>Said to be intimidating in private (not violent, this is false)
>have invented the cure for autism
>Rothschilds bow to Bogdanoffs
>the final red pill
>they are legion
>know the truth about the pyramidic shape of the earth
>Barron bows to Bogdanoffs
>Hold back the cure for cancer to bring their string theory based medicine on the market
>In contact with aliens, we think it might be several species
>Have psychic powers, see this video (youtube.com/watch?v=LieLBpy9qgU) and also this one at around 0:57 (youtube.com/watch?v=G2A-uxwQS-8)
>Control france with an iron but fair fist
>first beings to walk on Jupiter (Jupiter being a gas planet is a jewish lie)
>skilled in arcance sorcery and Japanese swordsmanship
>Own castles, nuclear plants and mansions around the world
>rumored to have transcended to the eighth dimension
>despite having perfect dicksucking lips never sucked anyone besides each other off
>Bluehschilds (even more secretive than rothschilds) bow to Bogdanoffs
>Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>their death would result in an atom bomb explosion, only to reveal that they have survived/ been reborn

[Jason Cruz]

>control the masses with pop songs like youtube.com/watch?v=dXp64bltOnQ
>Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city, Bog Angeles the second)
>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>hold back the market to bring their own string theory based market on the market
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Bogdanoff babies
>both brothers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>fierce enemies of the NWO
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>shitpost on /po/
>put flouride in the water in order to weaken mankind for their inevitable attack
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>caused the Tunguska event theguardian.com/theguardian/from-the-archive-blog/2013/feb/08/tunguska-asteroid-comet-1908-siberia
>I should be doing way more productive things than creating OC for the bogdanoff meme
>wielders of powerful memetic energy, resulting in superhuman strength and beauty
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>In contact with the spirits of nature
>they do not forgive
>they do not forget
>wanted for treason in Atlantis and Bielefeld
>actually are siamese twins, but do not share a physical but rather a spiritual link
>You likely have been cucked by the Bogdanoff twins and their BBCs (Big Bogdanoff Cock)
>claim to be Holocaust survivors despite being Holocaust deniers (still need confirmation on that)

[David Sanders]

>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Orthodox leader's first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Bogdanoff bunker in Wilkes land?
theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/12/pope-francis-russian-orthodox-patriarch-kirill-make-history-cuba-first-meeting-in-1000-years
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12162705/Patriarch-Kirill-meets-penguins-in-Antarctica.html
>They learned fluent French in under a week and speak Deep Speech and Old Aramaic since their birth
>created anime to corrupt the white youth
>The big red phone in the Kremlin is a direct line to the Bogdanoff manor the last person who missed a call was Mikhail Gorbachov.
>caused the Finno-Korean Hyper War
>do not need to breathe, eat, drink or sleep
>He resigned and fled the country in fear and the Bogdanoffs destroyed the Soviet Union in a fit of rage
>scientists pointed a telescopic array at the source of the 'bog bang' that created our universe
>this is what they heard youtube.com/watch?v=46kAzBMJpEk
>Grichka is >to smart for gf en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_and_Grichka_Bogdanoff#Personal_life
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
>the last person who missed a call was Mikhail Gorbachov. He resigned and fled the country in fear and the Bogdanoff
>wrote Mein Kampf (wrongly attributed to Adolf Hitler)
>You likely have the Bogdanoff twins inside you right now
>big guys
>Said to be involved in funding several zero energy research projects
>please kill me
>envied by women all over the galaxy for their godlike grace
>Hold back the electric car to bring their string theory based car on the market

[Daniel Thomas]

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[Easton King]

>touched by the old ones, resulting in their otherworldly beauty
>Only known possesors of the Bogdanomicon
>Soros bows to Bogdanoffs
>regularly attend the Bilderberg meeting (actually called Bilderbog)
>the final green pill
>combined IQ of over 180
>hold back half-Life 3 to bring their string theory based version on the market
>saved Europe multiple times with nothing more than a phone call
>assumed to be several decades old in human measurements, in reality they are timelss beings existing for longer than the universe
>they are also region
>reply to this rundown or your mother will die in her sleep tonight
>secret owners of Sup Forums
>create BLACKED threads on a daily basis to distract people from the bogpill
>delete threads containing the truth
>cause of the (((big bang))), which was renamed to hide their involvement, originally its discoverer Alexander Friedmann en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Friedmann named it after the two (the Bog Bang)
>because of severe threatening by the jewish community he eventually renamed it, effectively robbing the brothers of their well deserved credit
>They were three twins in the beginning, until they absorbed their third brother to gain even greater power
>in full control of every government on earth
>hold back string theory to bring their own string theory based string theory on the market
>slowly working towards the Bog World Order (BWO)
>There is no escape

[Jonathan Hernandez]

Since commies are quick to tell me it's not real communism any time I ask this question, let me rephrase it and try.
If you consider Nazi Germany as a standard, going from 0 to world power in five years, how can a communist system create the same levels of success?
>inb4 shifting the goalposts to Nazis
Hypothetical example, show me a viable economic proposal that will replicate the same rates of success.

[Chase Perry]

>it's always that same spanish poster

[Jose Diaz]

A quick look in the archives shows that this cuck has made 300+ posts like this.

[Easton Thomas]

The soviet union was funded by wall street jews. Jacob Schiff was head of the New York
investment firm Kuhn, Loeb and Co. He
was one of the principal backers of the
Bolshevik revolution and personally
financed Trotsky's trip from New York
to Russia. He was a major contributor
to Woodrow Wilson's presidential
campaign and an advocate for passage
of the Federal Reserve Act. (p. 210)

[Cameron Ramirez]

Woman hate eachother. Its scienentific fact

[Logan Flores]

really makes you think

[John Hall]

nazi germany was no success actually, its economy was a bubble which was viable just because their army was strong

their stocks fell right after Stalingrad when nobody had any doubts that they lost

[Luis Allen]

They have an interesting look although I don't necessarily like all of them. I do think they should be preserved though for historical reasons. Why I'm sad a lot of the old Saddam statues and stuff got destroyed. I know there's a nice statue to Tito in his home village though.

[Angel Brooks]

Gee, I don't know how that could be anything more than a coincidence.

[Jason Sullivan]

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[Jack Phillips]

thats actually quite a communist poster

[Adam Peterson]

Their army spending rose after 1937. A dollar was 50 million marks in November 1923. Postwar is postwar.

All wrong.

Also, the question was to make a viable economic proposal to match the success rates of other systems. Why don't you do that rather than blaming everyone else like even commie ever.

>he is so fucking dumb he didn't read the "don't shift goalposts inb4"

[Isaiah Ramirez]

'Who profits from war today?
Jews!
Nations fight and die for them!
And Jews make money on their deaths.'

>russka logic

[Luke Hill]

sorry, my english is not very good

change "jews" to "capital" and you get generic soviet poster

[Angel Hernandez]

>tfw no qt3.14 fascist waifu in your RWDS

[Jack Lopez]

No, just jews

[Gabriel Garcia]

nah , its (((pure coincidence))) , goy

[Ryder Flores]

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[Eli Gomez]

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[Julian Jenkins]

Can I ask what it is that you do IRL?

[Alexander Thomas]

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[Carter Wood]

Leading a glorious revolution out of his parents' basement of course.

[Andrew Butler]

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[Jonathan Jones]

A shame you can't bump your own threads, right faggot?

[Wyatt Bell]

Jews and capital are often one and the same. The Strassers were right in that regard.

[Christian Moore]

Answer the question. Are you a NEET? You've made over 300 communist generals in the past six months or so. Every thread, people debate you and you fail to give any coherent arguments. You just spam. What's your endgame? You think posting animu (made in a capitalist state) is going to turn you over to your side?

You do realize Venezuela right now has such a fucked economy that it can't print passports for people trying to flee it?

[Joshua Martin]

Truth be told, with rising automation and technology, as well as with our increasing scientific knowledge, communism is becoming less and less viable as an ideology. It will soon become as outdated as feudalism is for our modern world, and hopefully people will begin to see it for the archaic ideology it is.

[Owen Morgan]

venezuela is a hellhole, nothing can save it

socialist societies need a certain mentality, feudal shitholes like venezuela are not fit for it

but I still doubt capitalism will work there

[Lincoln Brown]

Best post

[Ian Harris]

Commies are only good for getting their heads smashed by sticks.

[Hudson Lee]

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[Cameron Bennett]

What nonsense. Venezuela is literal oil country like Saudi. It's amazing how they fucked it up, it's that hard to fail.
They also have mad tourism.
Meanwhile Chile has fucking copper and they are still the best economy.

[Aaron Ramirez]

Are you a NEET?

[Joseph Cox]

He's an obvious troll, if he actually care about converting anyone to communism he would bother debating us. Heck, he might even be controlled opposition, who knows.

[Xavier Perez]

Marx was a swarthy jew with daddy issues

[Alexander Carter]

It's actually pretty fascinating to look at the early roots of National Socialism and see the Soviet influence that was later purged by Hitler. For example this quote by Goebbels in 1925 long before Hitler took power.

"Lenin was the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight."

[Logan Brooks]

oil drilling and exploring is VERY difficult industry

it is like on the lvl of building a nuke

it requires a high lvl of nation development - the institutes, mentality n shiet

[Henry Adams]

I think he's too dumb to do any actual work, so he just spams the board day and night hoping someone will rally to his cause and save the day like FDR giving commies food rations so they wouldn't starve
Wouldn't be too far from the norm considering Marx was a NEET who never worked a day in his life and mooched off his capitalist jew friend

[Nathan Lopez]

well, actually Lenin is objectively the greatest figure of 20 century

he was a fucking genius whatever you say, he was like the guy from those "too intelligent" memes

I tryed to read his books when I was really right wing, he made great sence even then

[Easton Reyes]

>oil drilling is as difficult as building a fucking nuke
You can literally DIY it

[Lincoln Gutierrez]

youtube.com/watch?v=b6dH-ZtG-t4

[Logan Rodriguez]

Are you a NEET?

[Noah Jenkins]

>well, actually Lenin is objectively the greatest figure of 20 century

>rule russia for like 6 years
>starve a couple million slavs (normal for a USSR leader)
>dies
>greatest figure of the 20th century.

[Samuel Ross]

go read a fucking history book, brazil, dont behave like americans

[Connor Martin]

Oh Russka...

[Evan Robinson]

I remember Mussolini basically saying he admired Lenin's attempt but that the task was just simply too large for him.

[Hunter Reyes]

Before or after he made the kill squad Cheka to murder innocents who wouldn't follow his totally awesome ideology totally willingly and not forced at all?
Or when he ordered the epic lulz called collectivization which was completed by Stalin which led to people substituting grains with human flesh

[Jaxon Morales]

>automation and technology

>not being unified...collectively.

^Equals communism -- World Automation Protocol.. = The forming of a galactic empire.

[Carter Miller]

>this post
>canadian
that's a shame NKVD didn't zap your grandpa's ass before he ran to Canada

[Charles Adams]

Yeah, russka don't really have that much guts. Why else would they fall for the jew

[Adam Gomez]

>wannabe communists are now so out of touch with their ideology that they don't even know what the concept of worker is in Marxist terms
So what will the proletariat be? Robots?
And the humans the bourgeois? So basically a Terminator future. Noice.