I notice a lot of crybabbies on here complaining that women are mean and rude and need to be 'fixed'.
In ancient Sparta women were encourages to taunt and jeer and spit at the male warriors in the streets because it was believed to strengthen the character of the men.
Could it be that we as men need to toughen the fuck up?
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Both I guess. Sparta isn't really a society we should emulate though.
>men need to toughen the fuck up
It's not men vs women. It's men vs the state
men are the fundamentally broken ones, but that said, degeneracy and women seem to get along very well, without the limits imposed by the patriarchy they are completely lost
This. OP if you want to to get fucked in the ass so bad find a new website.
Yeah. Unfortunately a lot of these guys were raised by bitter women who emasculated then and taught then to worship women. Kinda hard to learn to be a man when you're raised by someone who actively suppresses those tendencies.
Hell, I didn't get it as bad as most because my mom just trained me to hate my dad when I was a kid, but it still made me way more beta than I should have been in high school and a good chunk of college before I unlearned her feminist bullshit.
>Sparta isn't really a society we should emulate though
'cause faggots like you would be killed
The Spartan society was inept and broken for far longer than it was functioning, specifically because the Spartans had made it impossible to grow or maintain their population of fighting men.
No because the society was completely broken. The Spartan army could barely go 30 miles from home out of terror at the idea of the helots launching an uprising.
That and kill weak infants
the world became more complicated and many men and women seem to fail to adjust.
Both have to sort themselves out
Faggots like him wouldn't have been raised to be a faggot, a society is built by the parents, you can't lay foundation if no one is making bricks
Nah he just doesn't want to open his anus to other men. Not everyone fell for the "Ancient Sparta was 300" meme
Both, women were always the active sexual selectors of the species. Without them seeking this selection men have no reason to aspire to anything.
Fight back get sent to jail or enslaved by alimony the rest of your life
Yes. And the way we do it is though simulation.
VR is the ultimate emulation and teaching device. If we can harness the power and teach the young men values of Masculinity, Individuality and Bravery though simulation under the guise of "the next big esport!" we can seize back control.
Including subliminal messages that will prepare them for redpills like all the villans have big noses will be a bonus.
I was raised by a sing mother. feels bad man
Ever get tired of having a victim complex, Sup Forums?
i never thought of it that way. using vr like the training room in x men.
I feel like a fucking white knight saying this, but men are the main problem. Do you seriously think weak and whiny men would grow a spine if they were given a meek and submissive wife? Of course not. Also, the main reason women are degenerate is because men have a fucking huge demand for degeneracy. Men crave prostitution, porn, and promiscuous sex. If there was no demand for degeneracy, then there would be no degeneracy. Simple as that. The muslim world is great evidence for this. Women are locked up and forced to obey their husbands, but since the men are encouraged to be degenerates, their whole fucking society is degenerate. They gang rape women, children and animals non-stop.
This. Civilization is created by men who control their instincts.
i'll take your word for it, sweden. you've had more experience with those savages than i care to.
i also blame minorities in general. to have to interact with them is to degrade and lower oneself to thier standard, since most black just talk shit and cop mad tude and act like they are better then you because muh dick.
shitskins are a monkey wrench jews threw into the effective clockwork of white progress.
> Lower oneself to thier standard
> thier standard
> thier
You wouldn't want to lower yourself.
This, and our generation has the ability to change this if we can red-pill enough people
>Otherwise an economic crisis or a war is fine too
oh you're just picking on my spelling. i'm using a wireless keyboard which loses its signal sometimes so i get frustrated and misspell things.
When women began working in the 60s the western world fundamentally changed, for the worst.
Men should compete with men for the best jobs, so they can support the best family. Women should compete with women so they can raise the best kids. This isn't to say that women should be subservient to men, or that men should be slaves to women; rather, the average household of a stable society should be in a harmonious state where both man and wife strive to make their family as strong as possible, supporting and respecting each-other for the betterment of humanity, and for the prosperity and opportunity of their children.
Women used to be the backbone of society, strong mothers created strong men and women who would in turn, create strong men and women. But, women gave up their power as the people who shaped the social landscape of society in exchange to make a few quick bucks. Why? So they could prove that they were 'strong' or 'independent'. But this was done without thinking far enough ahead to realize that neither gender can bring humanity to its greatest point without relying on the other. Society, and humanity as a whole depends on both sexes working together to create a better world, for tomorrow, and for our children.
Now that men and women are embroiled in the battle for the same resources, the sense of comradery between the sexes has been shattered. We live in a society where every class/gender/race is constantly competing with each-other for money, without a moment to stop and think of what has been lost in place of that.
The truth is, is that in modern western society, both men and women are broken. The destruction of the nuclear family has had far reaching consequences that have ingrained themselves deeply into society.
>we live in ancient Rome.
Of course men should be weak . According to the animations , the weaker they are , the smarter they are and we need more brains now brawns
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>dude its all mens fault lmao
>dude women literally did nothing wrong lmao
When did nu/pol/ become as cucked ad reddit
>Implying women do anything
these are the same women who cut their hair off to look like young boys so that the Spartan men would be aroused enough to mate with them and make enough babies to keep their society from collapsing.
We're all kinda broken
Spartans weren't from Rome you fucking cretin.
Ah yes the spartans really knew how to raise real men. We should start sending all boys to training camps at the age of 7 again, you dont need a mother past the age of 7 as a boy.
Also mandatory anal rape for all boys by their trainers to turn them into real sociopaths just like the spartans did.
What a great society to emulate.
Fuck the spartans, they got BTFO when they decided to ally with the dune coons against Athens.
I am glad their disgusting culture got wiped out.
Harden the fuck up
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Men because it boils down to their own insecurities.
>"Women are weaker than men, have lower IQ than men, and are completely inferior to men in general!"
>"I-it's all women's fault that men are weak betas and that society is collapsing!! We are powerless to stop it!!"
Yeah, makes perfect sense.
Nu/pol/ is virtually indistinguishable from tumblreddit now days when it comes to the gender issue
Really makes me thinque
No, women are degenerate by their own nature.
Without men oppressing them, they will be scum who will destroy society. From Rome to fucking Sweden this has proven to be true.
Jesus christ you worthless fucking swedes are castrated.
Women are the weak link in society. Your men are soft faggot, but your women are the active traitor who fuck nogs and produce niglets. That's how society dies.
The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. You must be successful, reliable, hardworking, and above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Racial politics doesn't have to be the first and only factor of that. If you can't achieve these things in your real life, then you are of little benefit to other whites, and you are absolutely wasting your time here.
Always remember: We live in first world countries, and have opportunity that most people born on this planet don't. Spend your time wisely and keep your real life priorities in order. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life.
They were able to beat them and had limited rights, seems fair to me
>South african talking about culture
Kek, have you lost your farm already?
It was a brutal society, not as close as you picture it full of sociopaths, in fact the nazis even get inspired by them and Leonidas's sacrifice
Whites are
Women are only weak because we've let them become weak. While I agree that women are out of control today, it's just as much fault of the men who are too afraid to stand-up and take charge, as it is the women who are acting so badly.
Can you blame a child for acting badly if they're never disciplined?
actually no
faggotism,according to Lykourgos law,was punishable by death
>What is irony
And you're talking about nu/pol/ while using "really makes me think"
this Swede is right, women need guidance, it's no wonder they have none and have to look up to the state when men themselves are a bunch of weak liberal degenerates
Yeah, when they fucked guys their own age.
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Oh please France, if anything our culture is more intact than yours.
I am sure you would gladly live in a Spartan world and ingesting your elders semen to be ritually initiated into manhood.
After all too a spartan its not abuse it pedophilia which is translated to love of children.
>Can you blame a child for acting badly if they're never disciplined?
If you admit that women are no more independent than children, then no, you can't blame them.
In that case, take away their right to vote and their equality. They're meat bags to fuck in that case.
Both, but women were always broken. It's in their biology, we are the problem. We have to remove their rights.
Look at the muslim world. Women are locked up, forced to obey their husbands, and get beaten or murdered if they're even slightly disobedient. The muslim world should have been complete paradise if your theory was correct. The fact is that the muslims world is a complete shithole simply because men are allowed to be degenerate. A lot of western women are degenerate, but the men are nowhere near as degenerate as the average muslim, and obviously our societies are superior to any muslim society. As long as men demand degeneracy, there will be degeneracy. Men's behaviour decide how much degeneracy there will be.
Women are weak spirited, and weak minded. Once man stumbles down their level ,shit goes south.
U will never hear a female that is married to a proper male, bitching about equality and female empowerment, she feels empowered by the male strength that she is surrounded by and that gives her confidence in life and future.
They just waking up to the bitter fact that all women are sluts and all of them want to be treated like shit.
Men grew up with the idea that women are good, caring souls with good intentions,that women cant be hit or women are equal to men.
After growing up these men searched,but only found the truth.They now want to fix it.They dont know women are not broken.This is the womans true nature.
Men in ancient Sparta were also allowed to force themselves upon a woman at any time to claim them as his wife.
were not gonna borrow everything from Spartas society, just stop being a little bitch how bout dat
>dude it was just irony lmao
>dude but still, women did literally nothing wrong lmao
Typical libtard pretending to try and "fit in" here.
Women crave attention from men by nature and will get it any way they can. When men expect them to be whores they will become whores. When men expected them to be wives they became wives.
The question you should be asking is: What's easier? For women to stop the attention seeking and demand men to change or for men to deny themselves easy sex stop accepting promiscuity.
Solid argument. Saved.
Ahah you clearly never been to a french café in nice cities to say that
It's in danger because of Islam and shitskins but I've been to SA and its litteraly a shithole, only St Lucia was ok and it's because it's full of tourists and mostly white. And you clearly don't know anything about the history of Sparta, read some books m8.
Oh and I'm not the one being targeted by my government yet
Spartans were based and their system was impressive at the time, with a lot of issues for certain and it could not stay in power for many years. Still a part of European's history and I'm glad that Golden Dawn is honoring them
>It's in danger because of Islam and shitskins
Yes and women totally did not vote for that at all, it was all men's fault
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Sup Forums btfo by redpilled swede, cannot even recover. All of Sup Forums are children who think women are responsible for anything they do. LOL. Women are silly putty in your hands. If you are weak they will overcome you. Sorry your single mammy or your cuck dad never told you that.
This, degeneracy is woman's best friend. It's also true that men are broken. Why? Becasue they accept sluts
>you had 5 different dicks in your vagina before me?
>that's okay i'll still marry you
If men would stop being cucks and start demand that you're either virgin or fuck off women would think twice about becoming sluts, that being said man must be strong so it should be social norm to train your body and eat right instead we live in a society where nu males rule, un athlethic faggots who let women act like whores and they're think this makes them "real" men or whatever
>tl;dr
Just don't accept this degenracy yourself, be /fit/ and find a virgin qt that you will marry, let me repeat myself find VIRGIN not girl with how had 1 or 2 dicks before her VIRGIN. I get it relationships sometmies don't work out but in today's society you should check the girl 3 times before even holding her hands. Also despite this stronk independed wymyn stuff you hear daily women love hearing about marriage and other stuff, my friends from uni told me that they'd love a guy that'd be serious from the start about marrying them, the idea that a guy tells you that he will marry you and have kids with you makes them wet apparently. thank god that feminism and jews can't destroy maternal instinct in few generations.
>All of Sup Forums are children who think women are responsible for anything they do. LOL.
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No one is saying make women wear burkas and cut off their clits. But obviously, they shouldn't vote and they sure as fuck shouldn't be considered rational enough to do anything but raise kids.
They whore around naturally, regardless of demand for sluts, and only our oppressive nature stops that. Something like 20% of married women admit to cheating.
No one thinks that. we agree with him so shove off
>Implying i'm a libshit and not natsoc
Women follow what men do, there isnt a single empire made by women in History for reasons
Still using nu/pol/ against everybody ?
>women do what men want
Do men want their women to fuck shitskins? I really want to know if you're willing to say that shit.
Click on this guys ID then if you're so sure and read his posts
Strong men crate good times, good times create bad men etc.
Trips of truth
>In ancient Sparta women were encourages to taunt and jeer and spit at the male warriors in the streets because it was believed to strengthen the character of the men.
Proof where?
yes and i agree in most part, whats your point.
Absolutely both are broken, that's why I try and make regular self-improvement threads on here (pic related).
If you want a good woman you have to become a good man. There is no getting around that. Train your mind, spirit, and body.
Spartan society also ran on a serf class akin to the illegals we import...
Yes.
Spartans were fucking cucks for their women. But yes, we men need to toughen up. Easy times have made us soft, a couple of wars should fix that. The ideal of femininity should not be lost on us to achieve what a boot camp can do more efficiently.
I fucked like 20 girls between 16-18. 5 dicks in her is pretty mich a virgin.
There's no reason to toughen up when whores will be whores.
If women were rude but faithful, that'd be fine. But they aren't. There is no reason to act tough anymore, there is no reason to strive for the impossible. There is no one worth impressing anymore.
So what reason is there to not say it hurts if it hurts? In the past it was to look like a manly man and women loved manly men. But what exactly does looking like a manly man get you now? you get criticized for being a privileged white male and you still don't have any better women available, in fact, the average quality of women surrounding you will have decreased.
I'll take being alone and happy, thanks.
They are mean and rude, because people on here are literal genetic waste.
>Because they accept sluts
This. Men are cucked to shit. Woman's nature is a degenerative force in society, only halted by men's intolerance for sluts.
We tolerate their nature, and society breaks.
>The ideal of femininity
fuck it.
This is not a gendered issue. Everybody in 2017 is a crybaby compared to Spartans. Even this post is crying about it instead of actually raising sons and daughters with proper ideals
What's YOUR point don't reply to me without my consent you islander
Yeah but women were also expected to raise a family in sparta. They had to stay fit, adultery was punished, respect was expected if you were a proven spartan.
Nowadays women get fat, cheat with you with ugly Tyrone and then heckle and spit on you for not being alpha enough to resolve her emotional traumatic past.
She then robs you off half your stuff, takes the kids of you had those and fucks a new guy the first week shes single. Finally admitting her cock count was much higher than she claimed. Women are fucked to desu.
That's a lot of text without any (you)s
>noone has said it yet
THICKKK
>and they sure as fuck shouldn't be considered rational enough to do anything but raise kids.
Comments like this confuse me. Why do people act surprised that so many women leave their traditional role, when so many conservative men trash talk and look down upon the traditional female role? You think child rearing is an inferior task that suits the inferior female mind. I think child rearing is a noble and very important task that women naturally excel at. Which opinion do you think would make women more likely to embrace their natural role?
Just like a dog will misbehave if improperly trained by it's master, so too will women.
The failings of women are all a direct result of man's failing.
No but a woman that learned to demand nothing from men will sleep with every man that comes along and ,as Swedebro explained, Muslim society has no standards for men so they fit right in.
both men and women have degenerated in their own way, and their own degeneracy is causing the opposite sex to degenerate further.
>fuck it
No.
Well you're part of the problem then. Men who fuck multipule women are as bad as women fucking multipul men
>inb4 muh key that open doors
Not an argument.
We mostly just need to throw off our shackles.
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Good post
>Which opinion do you think would make women more likely to embrace their natural role?
This kind of thinking is the problem. They should have no choice to make.
Child rearing might very well be noble, but idgaf. Let women do it, because that's all they're apparently good for.
Agreed. Honestly it seems like Swedish women invited in all the rapefugees because they were tired of their own emasculated men, and secretly longed for a bit of virility and manliness (and it says a lot when a bunch of weak-chinned arabs are considered more manly).
This
>this kills the weeb
I'm down