/leftypol/ vs Sup Forums it's on

/leftypol/ vs Sup Forums it's on

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Can't we all just unite, I thought we were smart people on both ends.

i hate communism as much as the next guy but goddamn i can't put down RATM for the life of me

That band sucks balls

>I'm gonna go into sustainable energy
>I'm gonna push for Solar and Wind
>I'm gonna waste tons of valuable materials to construct shitty turbines that aren't even remotely close to as efficient as we need to equal our consumption
>I'm going to take up massive swathes of land for these shitty turbines, and they won't even be consistent in their production of energy
>I'm gonna lay waste to the environment far worse than the tar sands in Canada just to make solar panels
>I'm gonna have to maintain and replace these solar panels every couple years taking up even more precious resources
>I'm gonna oppose Thorium reactors and Nuclear Fusion without even understanding how they work
>I'm gonna oppose all Oil, Gas, Coal etc. without understanding how they work let alone how scrubbers etc. remove pretty much all the pollution my enviro teacher told me they produce
>I'm gonna take up far more land than Oil, Gas, Fusion, Fission, Thorium, Hydro, Coal etc. and arguably do as much if not more damage then they do to the environment

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>Be National Socialist
>Against finance crony capitalism

>be leftypol
>buy into Jewish Propaganda ideology
>claim to be enlightened

sup why should i be forced to share my car with someone living in south africa who i will never meet?

Paul Ryan pls go

I don't care about economics or social issues, I just hate niggers.

SEIZE

die in a fire commies, I'm going to fucking end you people you racist sacks of shit

This thread is shit.

yeah but that wasn't REAL capitalism

>tfw no union of egoists

you really think postmodern marxism is advocating racial equality?
postmodernism was made by literal fucking nazis dude.
postmodernism is the cause of all the SJW shit over the last 10 years, and the right wing reaction to it.

press.princeton.edu/chapters/i7705.html

Why do liberals only push solar and wind, even bernie stated that we need to replace our current infrastructure with wind, geothermal, and solar.
Like do they not get how inefficient it would be to do that, and how much that would effect the economy and private market?

Bernie is a good example of illiterate in the field:

nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/bernie-sanders-calls-shutting-down-new-york-nuke-plant-n550331
>Sanders wants to shut down a nuclear power plant that provides 25 per cent of New York City's power in favor of renewables.

In order to replace that one plant with wind turbines you would need to build 140% more turbines than New York has built in the last 20 years. If you wanted to replace nuclear in New York entirely, it shoots up to 550% more turbines than New York has built in the last 20 years. The sheer footprint of that is completely ridiculous, never mind the wasted resources, maintenance costs, lower efficiency etc.

But hey, its not like he is completely retarded right?

feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-energy-policy/
>Bernie has called for a moratorium on nuclear power plant license renewals in the United States. He believes that solar, wind, geothermal power, and energy efficiency are more cost-effective than nuclear plants, and that the toxic waste byproducts of nuclear plants are not worth the risks of the technology’s benefit.

Welp, guess I was wrong.


And this is all before we even get into LNG, Coal, etc.

It really is astounding how uneducated people are on Nuclear, or rather its pro-to-con ratio.

Most people think nuclear and they get scared, and a lot don't understand fully what it takes to get a reaction, or how safe it actually is, or how incompetent people have to be for it to fail. I never took bernie seriously knowing that he was just trying to motivate young people who were too indoctrinated by movies and education to hate jews. But if I had thought his points were valid I would've dismissed him after reading that abomination of an energy plan.

It's like some liberals live in a different world, where people can easily build Dyson spheres around stars but don't want to because its more profitable to burn coal. While it actually is right now, I just don't get how you can think these wind turbines can be placed everywhere, and output enough power for cities to manage.

For instance here in Michigan, something like 30% of our total power consumption comes from nuclear, and that's only from 3 different plants. Uranium lasts so long and is so abundant that I wouldn't know why you wouldn't want to abuse it where applicable.

I swear people think these things are just gonna blow up like Hiroshima, Chernobyl was a soviet incompetence-driven basket case. And Fukushima happened because Nips build important building next to the coast and on fault lines.

Oil/gas/coal are a scam to keep us on fiat currency. If we stop using them, we'll stop using fiat finances too - this is why we're forced to keep using hydrocarbons at all costs.

My sauce is; car engines including hybrids are not designed to be efficient, the 4 stroke process is (in my opinion) the worst way of turning fire into a rotating force.

Coal is more or less the same, it's heating water to turn a drive shaft which turns a magneto. This is basically the same as a motorbikes "stator" or a cars alternator. It's Victorian era tech that works, but the real thing it does is use X amount of coal/oil per year and that X can be increased based on demand, then taxed.. then you get the picture.

I think if our heavy engineering firms like Toyota etc actually gave a shit, we'd be seeing totally different methods of turning fuel into energy.

why would they do anything differently? they're making money already. just look at the views of GM execs towards Tesla, they see electric cars and so on as a joke.
just wait a few decades and you'll see all of the giants sprint into new energy generation tech.

This

Totally, it keeps us ausfags under control and bickering about carbon taxes, whilst our greenies save everything by demanding everyone stops using electricity cos Al Gore told them so. Oh and Tax the problem, cos that'll fix it too!!

It's pretty funny how converting Latrobe valley into a thorium reactor would not only be safe, it'd make electricity basically free leaving the only real cost of power production to be grid maintenance.. In the literal, of actually changing out dodgy sub stations and bad cabling.

We could all grow our own veg at home hydroponically, freeing up the Murray basin area for delicious beef production...

I say this to people, and they look at me like I just recommended converting to scientology - then they go back to repeating the MSM talking points.

I think Tesla cars are suss, Elon is too in bed with the machine, but then again.. I'm just a dog on the internet haha

But how would you realistically store energy in a compact enough battery to sustain a longer drive? Not everyone is a European that only goes to and from work everyday, gas is more efficient of a fuel source than any battery currently, so what would you replace it with?

Your argument has some grounds to stand on once batteries are more capable and we switch to better stationary energy-producers, but do you really think that execs can magically produce what hasn't been done before, but don't because they make more money by being stagnant? That just goes against the laws of capitalism.

>rich republicans were anti trump but they actually wanted him to win
I thought lefty Sup Forums wasn't retarded?

why cant leftpol make good memes?

>Pretending that the left is facing some big evil conspiracy of porky bankers who want to shut them down

Europe. Antifa groups receive state funding.
United States of America. Teachers are openly Marxist and are allowed to brainwash children. Marxist politicians aren't even called on what they are, everyone uses a polite euphemism so as not to slander them. The police don't attack rioting Leftists, and arrest people who do attack them. Senator Joe McCarthy, who had a 95+ percent rate of accuracy in identifying Soviet spies, is remembered as a villain instead of a hero. George Soros is allowed to funnel billions of dollars into the pockets of left wing terrorist groups and marxist think tanks. Wearing hammer and sickle shirts or shirts with the mass murderer Che Guevara on them is chic. There is a brand of orange soda with Joseph Stalin's face on it that is sold in children's candy stores.

You can go take your copy of the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital, and read it on a street corner in New York and people will cheer for you, or clap. You can openly call for the abolition of private property and not only will you not be punished, you'll probably receive positive attention.

The Left is not a persecuted political group, you're the foot soldiers of a global banking conspiracy. "Porky," more accurately called The Jew, knows that your idiotic call for Communism will inevitably centralize control of finance and industry in their hands to an even greater extent than it is now. Don't believe me? Look at Europe. In every country, even those which are supposedly Socialist, the Banks rule. They aren't afraid of you, they love you. They love you because the only enemy who has EVER presented a serious threat to their agenda was named Adolf Hitler.

Now, remember what I said about your shitty book and reading on the street corner? Try doing that with a copy of Mein Kampf. See what happens. Then tell me again who it is the Elite wants silenced.

feminism prioritizes aborting children ahead of women

Porky doesn't want racism because that would be a threat to his cheap immigrant workers

if you're in NSW look up the local superchargers in your area (there's not many), pop on down one day and have a peek at the cars (if there's any there). normally the cunts that own teslas are extremely rich but also very quick to show off their toys. i dropped by one of their destination chargers at a hotel near me and the bloke there gave me a test drive in his Model S. fun shit.

no it's not

Reminder that leftypol/antifa faggots think that socialism or communism will help them, when in reality they themselves are the real bourgeoisie. Socialism and communism will do more to help the average hood nigger on crack than it will these retarded middle class college age faggots who want communism so bad.

There's no such thing as leftypol. There's just Sup Forums. And then there's newfags. Fuck off newfag and stop spreading cancer

Sage

Leftypol is a legitimate board, newfag.

>anti-racism
>anti-burgeoise
Top lel, delusional commies actually believe this. Every corporation in America is 100% anti-nationalist and supports unlimited immigration.

Thanks :)

I think batteries are the wrong solution to this problem for now, my experience with batteries is mostly via RC helicopters n drones (3-6 cell lithium polymer batteries) which are, as far as I know.. The most useful batteries we've made to date due to their incredibly high discharge rate.

The problem with LiPo (lithium polymer) is that they're really explosive if you don't balance the cells properly. The battery generally consists of 3 cells that need to stay between 3.7-4.4 volts DC each.

It's really easy to over charge and over discharge the batteries which will result in the battery becoming unstable. When it's out of balance it'll read like this: Cell 1: 4.8v Cell 2: 3.2v cell 3: 4.5

You add the total of the 3 cells together to get a total number of volts available so you might not even notice they're out of balance unless you test all 3 which requires connecting a separate device that connects to the actual cells individually rather than just looking at the voltage coming out of the main cord. If this out of balance situation occurs, things get sketchy.

Check out lipo's exploding on youtube, the Russians love blowing them it, great tv.

I digress, back on point - this is the on going problem with lithium batteries including lithium ion batteries which are in laptops and teslas I believe.

Using a lithium ion battery instead of polymer gives a less explodey battery but a lower discharge rate which means it can't deliver a large surge of power when required. And, as we've seen with laptops and smart phones, they tend to blow up too.

Basically my solution to the car problem would be to use thorium reactors to produce ethanol in labs that we then pour straight into our 4 stroke petrol cars. There's some good videos on making ethanol in labs using electricity instead of the classic fermentation and distillation process (basically how vodka is made)

Sorry if this is a bit all over the place and rambly,

Nice! I'd love to try one of them out, I ride motorbikes (currently an R1) and those model S's are apparently faster! That'd be mind blowing

>leftist antifa virgin cucks are literally surviving from gibs by the fat kike and act as stupid tools of them
>somehow the hard working family guy who truely cares for his family is the evil because white and nazi
>somehow these unemployed leftist represent us at the same time
>somehow islamist and superstitious niggers go along with thes leftist atheist anti christian believes.
>somehow islamist and niggers view on "gender roles" read rape of Western woman goes along with their femnazi numale stance

Everything I don't like is bourgeois.

The execs and other power brokers will NEVER allow this model to be broken, ever, never, no way. I think it'll have to take alien intervention or some shit, it's not just the money it's all the control they'd be losing. I have a hard time quitting league of legends, there's no way I could quit dominating the entire species for the sake of doing the right thing.. Feelsbad

I don't care what bullshit argument you have in there.
99.9% of people ever described as "postmodern marxists" advocate racial equality.

No it makes sense, thanks for the explanation on lithium ion's, I'm pretty entry-level when it comes to batteries. And I guess if we could manage a conversion to Thorium/Fusion reactors in the next hundred years we could solve a lot of pollution problems and ethanol could be infinitely produced with the extra energy and abundance of corn. And solve our battery problem for the time being as we wouldn't need them for basic things.

Geez how expensive would that make gas?

Yeah but beyond infrastructure costs, what's keeping other people from doing it and emerging victorious in the world of capitalism, I'm sure some billionaire could do it, as some common man can't (because its no longer the 1800's).

I guess Elon is trying, and if he isn't just trying to jew the new industry, it is commendable. But why isn't he investing in larger things than just cars? Is he really eating up his own finances to get at 2% of all pollution-because I don't think his teslas are going to take off in the long run.

Just because people are driving an electric car doesn't mean they're producing any less emission, when more coal than gas has to be burned to sustain the less efficient power cycle.

You're welcome user :) Thanks for the fun conversation, I just wish I had a good YouTube link that mansplains this better than I can do with text.

Gl fellow traveller!

>There's some good videos on making ethanol in labs using electricity instead of the classic fermentation and distillation process (basically how vodka is made)
Its really inefficient user. The problem that comes from this is that the energy required to suit the demands to use electricity to make ethanol bypassing fermentation and distillation costs more per energy unit of electricity than to follow the classic method.

leftypol is an 8ch board newfag, back to r*ddit

This deserves at least one (you)

leftypol for the win. Let's smash capitalism.

youtu.be/L1KnkjE-LpM

>8gag
So it's still not a thing.

The fuck off back to kikechan kunt

>not a thing

You can go back to r*ddit too

>a newfag pretending to be an oldfag
There's more then one chan you dumbass, /leftypol/ is from cripplechan

Stay mad that 8gag will never be relevant.

>edgy teenager detected

If you have something mean to say about him say it to his face.

That's kikechan faggot. Fuck off back to it if you're devoted to sucking his broken circumcised cock commie trash

>implying I care how relevant antifachan is

>what is that ancap meme referencing?

Lmao

>Racism is preached by any establishment media/think tank
>Environmentalism is discouraged by the elite

You're delusional.

8ch is shit, but you're just an edgy faggot that came here from reddit in the past year. And I'm an Ethno-nationalist faggot

>It's a leftypol "muh proletariat but depicts all their strawman as blue collar rednecks" episode
>It's a leftypol "muh not real communism but still suck Stalin's and USSR's cock" episode
>It's a leftypol "muh better workers rights and pay but muh mexicans do the jobs we don't want to for less" episode

>I don't want to be able to visit other countries and enjoy myself because I feel my day to day living situation is unfair
>I would rather give up all freedom so that everyone else must live a mundane stationary life where they go to work, come home, and have no variation in things they are allowed to buy or do.

>retardchan
>implying its not a literal garbage site
The less someone knows about that shithole, the better.

>he's an "ethno-nationalist faggot"
>admitting you like sucking cock
Sounds like you might be reddit material

>pretending to misinterpret what someone means
You really are from reddit.

>>Environmentalism is discouraged by the elite

desu I'd say it is to an extent because certain corporations want to cut down trees and do fracking etc.

>britfag upset that his Mooslim overlord is fucking his wife tonight

so /leftypol/ is feels and strawmans

i think Sup Forums would kick /lp/ ass anyday

The leftwing used to oppose globalism, now it supports it.

The rightwing now opposes globalism.

Trump killed TPP.

/Leftypol/ are the corporatists now.

explain this political compass

Stop pretending that /leftypol/ is relevant.
Convince them to Gulag the anarcho-fems and then we can talk.

Thanks user. I'm gonna order this

>"Hi. I want you to stop using coal, and switch to a clean, sustainable alternative."
"Ok, where do you want the nuc-"
>"NO!"
"Why?"
>"Muh storage."
"We have miles of barren, earthquake-less desert to store it in."
>"Muh Chernobyl."
"We have the highest safety and construction standards in the world."

I fucking hate the left in this country.

>>so /leftypol/ is feels and strawmans
same goes for this place

Qeq

it sounds like a celtic myth

It's some /tg/ thing that was in my memeball folder.

Yes.

If jewish wants to have all the money then, why would they make an ideology that basically calls people to take the means of production and use them as they see fit? I'm not defending communist here, I just can't see the connection between jews being manipulative cunts who want all the money for themselves and they also advocating for such a contradictory ideology for their interest at the same time.

>he hasn't heard "playing both sides" intellectual cop-out meme yet

If you think the communist jews pushed for communism so everyone would be rich you are quite retarded.

>let's eliminate economic incentives and not replace it with anything, people love to work for free!

any form of socialism/communism without nationalism/theocracy/racial pride is doomed to fail

leftypol is retarded for thinking global gommunism has any chance in hell

>>let's eliminate economic incentives and not replace it with anything, people love to work for free!
nah mane. they work for labor vouchers. it's like money except you don't pass it around and hoard it like AIDS in the faggot community

They were the ones making the communism generals because they fell for the Sup Forums is contrarian meme, they are quite small though so they're no real threat

tattered-realms.wikia.com/wiki/Eskarne

autism

Nah, I think history proved quite strongly that the whole thing was bullshit, or at least the approach that communism in the 20th century had (because instead of actually empowering the proletariats, the communists parties took the revolutionary process on their hands and did whatever they thought it was fit "for the people", resulting in the mess that is the history of 20th century communism).

My problem with the entire "jews did communism" is that if you're rich as fuck and you want to continue to be rich then, why would you create such a thing as communism? It's absolutely contrary to the entire ethos of being a rich capitalist, and someone who lived in the pre-communism era couldn't possibly know the effects that such idea would have in the european society. In fact capitalists of that time saw in communism a very dangerous idea for their business and strongly opposed it, they didn't foster it at all (you can find emblematic strikes of the early communist era where capitalist sent the army or the police to butcher the strikers because they were scared of what could happen is such a thing wasn't confronted with a great show of strength).

I think Sup Forums it's just trying to connect dots that aren't there. I would even bet that the people who make the typical claims about "cultural marxism" haven't even read Adorno or Horkheimer, or even understood what they tried to say. It's seems to be that there's an important amount of people in that subgroup that did read some of it but didn't get it, so that's why they revere "common sense" and that sort of things, because they're illiterates who couldn't interpret a text.
Well, murrika is filled with poorly educated people anyways. It's not that far out to think that someone would feel frustrated when reading that sort of books if that person is murrikan. I mean I don't even like Adorno and Horkheimer, but at least I respect their work because they proposed an interpretation of reality that wasn't there before.

My guess, is that the idea of communism, that the elite would get cushy desk jobs that would be removed. Sort of like Stalin. Most of the jews who advocated for Communism in Germany or Russia were executed if my sources are correct.

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>. I would even bet that the people who make the typical claims about "cultural marxism" haven't even read Adorno or Horkheimer, or even understood what they tried to say.

you would be correct

>Implying the (((bourgeoisie))) want more nazis

Jews invented (((capitalism))) too, prick. Pic related is Adam (((Smith))) founder of capitalism

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You niggers need MolyJew to wash away your totalitarian sins.

Pic related is the REAL (((porky)))

>founder of capitalism
I mean Smith is cool, but he isn't Hooke. He's the founder of cells. Without cells you wouldn't be alive. Think about that.

>"le rich people are responsible for all our issues"
>But user, not even a fifth of the rich give a fuck about the issues you claim they're willing to cause!
>"But it's always rich people!"
And if you looked at their last name, their heritage and/or their religion, then you'd quickly find out that they're all jews too.
I wonder how long it'll take for you autistic communist faggots to figure out that the rich weren't even nearly as bad until after the kikes started going full nepotism and taking over companies, pretty much creating the circumstances you see today?

(EG: disney, along with the other top 6 media corps that own 90% of all existing TV networks in western culture)

>rich people used to be cool. IT WAS THE JEWS THE ONES WHO CORRUPTED THEM
Oh come on, you can't be this naive.

he is right in a way, jews have turned these companys into shit buy hiring fucking niggers, beaners or going to china and using kids to increase there profit 10 fold and keeping them barely running for maxium profits for their pockets. the richest are the jews yet they are the lowest population amount. but it wasnt always them, only post korea i guess. hard to tell during ww2 and before since we dont know much about the work conditions pay and etc

leftypol is a joke

Is it because black people are better than white people?