Capitalism is Evil

Can someone explain to me why capitalism is, in any way, justified? I made a video explaining why capitalism is objectively evil:

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Are there ANY counterarguments?

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1) You talk like a faggot

2) You should learn English, it's a much better language than whatever the fuck you're talking in the video.

Thats why we need the national socialist workers party.

ad hominem is not a counterargument, user.

>, user

You're a newfag. Get the fuck out, you fucking queer.

All I need to know about you is that you probably have no formal education in economics/government, and that you should shower more often, your hair is oily and crumpled together.

On the other hand, I have formal education on both, and really don't need to hear your recycled point of view (That you will INSIST is unique) just to have an extremely ridiculous angle, and regardless of what I say you won't change your point of view.

How many (non-fiction, non-biographical) books did you read last year? Let me guess, less than 10? If any.

You have no formal education, and no desire to learn, your objective is to cry more and more about whatever your peers say is a problem (Sheep mentality) because you want to fit in because you've never had many friends.

But ultimately, you have absolutely no education on the topic, and your opinion shouldn't be valid until you acquire said formal education. Since it isn't your objective to learn, and have a proper debate, you won't do that and will continue crying about whatever the fuck you're crying.

now you're just using argument to authority. I'm actually well-versed in economic principles such as supply/demand, currency, incentives. Otherwise I wouldn't have brought up the stuff in the video.

Reading a few wikipedia pages doesn't mean you know about it. You dodged all of my questions.

I'm guessing you don't read books, nor have any formal education, hence all of the points you make are shit.

>I'm guessing you don't read books, nor have any formal education, hence all of the points you make are shit.
that is not relevant. Anybody can read up on subjects on their own. For example, would you argue that Martin Shkreli knows nothing about drugs and medicine because his degree is in business admin? Even I can admit he's brilliant and knows what he's talking about. Just because I didn't waste tens of thousands of dollars of an economics degree doesn't mean I don't understand the subject. Again, you're just appealing to authority here.

You are actually fucking retarded and if i see you in public ill make myself known. You have the mind of a child.

Under Communism/socialism
Venezuela shit
Russia Shit
China shit
The middle east? Oh right thats how they were taken down and reverted to religious fundamentalism with
Afghanistan
Iran
Somalia
North Korea

Literally all of these places of shit and little faggots like you think its a good idea while bathing in the privilege capitalism has afforded you.

Disgustingly ignorant excuse for a human you are.

*Literally all of these are shit across the globe

If you hate capitalism then stop taking advantage of all the privilege you have right now because of it.
>Cognitive dissonance incoming

>I have a corn field, and I want whiskey, but I am hungry, and corn is my source of nutrition.
>I can eat all of the corn, and no longer be hungry, but I will never have whiskey.

>Through self-control, I can save portions of the corn from my corn field.
>Though my satisfaction is delayed, through work and knowledge, I can create whiskey.
>By delaying my satisfaction, consuming what I needed, saving what I could, and managing my property, both my wants and my needs are now met.

but those countries were shit because they were authoritarian, not because they were communist. Non-authoritarian socialists states (e.g., Norway) are the most successful on the planet.

>socialists
>Norway
You are so idiotic that I even suspect that this thread is bait, and that you are just trying to get us to swarm that idiot in the video for you.

And those are the core principles of capitalism, in case you couldn't connect that.
>Delayed satisfaction
>Consumption
>Savings
>Management

I've thought long and hard basically capitalism is alright if you live in the United States or somewhere like Canada or Britain which isn't super globalist FOR NOW. Think of human history. Think of human nature and then realize that capitalism runs on %100 pure greed. Every decision made is to benefit the person. The elites the super rich they only have us middle and lower class people because we benefit them by buying and producing goods. Essentially in decades to come the elites know they don't need us any longer due to technology they could have a group of scientists and organ replacements handy and have robots do all the work. Now what's going to eventually happy is the poor and middle class will have enough of this rigged chess board and fight back whichever side wins determines the outcome of the werld. But comparing capitalism to other systems it seems to be the lesser of two evils because essentially a strong lower and middle class results in a strong country. Once drones and a.i. Gundams can fight their wars. There will be no reason to keep soldiers healthy to protect the country and there goes us all. Press F to pay respects.

White people are the only ones capable of being empathetic to their fellow people you ignorant little fucking puke.
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You understand nothing about this world.

>>If you hate capitalism then stop taking advantage of all the privilege you have right now because of it.
>class-awoke lefties voluntarily starve themselves to death or live in wild recluse
>vast majority of humanity toiling under overlords who live in luxury while the masses are deceived into thinking that having the choice between an 12 pack pepsi or a 24 pack coca cola is the true essence of freedom.

Basically Christianity and a society based on the common good of its people is the only way. Evil however is just too enticing.

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okay, but that doesn't mean anything. You're just explaining how private ownership works in theory. In practice socialist systems are still perfectly functional and can achieve most or all the same things as capitalist ones. If we're going by theory then there's tons of marxist literature I can cite showing how collectivism is superior.

>Captialism
>get free of speech/expression and opportunity, but money can funnel to higher ups

>Communism
> No freedom of speech/expression in exchange for "equality"

(Authors note: Equality is decided by the party.)

>I've thought long and hard basically capitalism is alright if you live in the United States or somewhere like Canada or Britain which isn't super globalist FOR NOW. Think of human history. Think of human nature and then realize that capitalism runs on %100 pure greed. Every decision made is to benefit the person. The elites the super rich they only have us middle and lower class people because we benefit them by buying and producing goods. Essentially in decades to come the elites know they don't need us any longer due to technology they could have a group of scientists and organ replacements handy and have robots do all the work. Now what's going to eventually happy is the poor and middle class will have enough of this rigged chess board and fight back whichever side wins determines the outcome of the werld.


your assessment is in alignment with the left.
it's a scenario the left calls "exterminism". in the trash we go

>(Authors note: The definition of communism is decided by the the capitalists.)

Counter argument: Venezuela

>Why is being able to own the things you earned justified?
>Why are people allowed to own their land?
>Why doesn't the government control people's lives in a capitalist form of government.

>Capitalism is bad
Yes, but communism is worse.

Beer and guns, I shit you not. With any other form of government, including the U.S.A. they are regulated, Even taken away. What capitalism does, is it gives the power to decide back to the people. For good or for ill. It is up for us, each individually to decide what is best.

I wonder if we'll ever get an unironically fascist anime. I guess the closest will forever be Tanya the Evil.

Then why is it that socialism and communism lend themselves to authoritarianism, censorship, and mass graves? Just take one look at how Sweden, a non-authoritarian socialist state, handles reporting migrant crime. Capitalism may be evil, but at least it grants people the freedom to say so.

The only people who hate capitalism are poor fags who have zero ambition. Im poor because evil corporations are keeping me down whaaaaaaaaa, not because im lazy, lack ambition and smoke weed all day. Ive made a shit tone of money because of capitalism simply because I read alot and am not a complete idiot. "Its evil thou" like i give a fuck if something is evil or not, I take opportunity when it come up.

>In practice socialist systems are still perfectly functional and can achieve most or all the same things as capitalist ones
Where?

>yes
How is the private ownership of capital a bad thing?

Capitalism is the very reason we have things like video games, different types of vehicles, televisions, different brands of beer, a wide amount of fast food joints that we can choose from, movies that aren't dogshit, sports, music, etc.

Communists need to fuck off. I'd rather be homeless in a capitalist country than live in a communist country where there's no hope, and we're all mutually fucked.

Communism isn't for the people, it's for the higher ups to control their people, and have their citizens work as slaves for them. Communism is literally fucking slavery.

Leaf rangeban when?

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>Are there ANY counterarguments?

Norway isn't a socialist state. It's a free market economy with a robust welfare state.
Basically, a capitalist country with a collective public education and health program.
Yes, it's the best. Yes, it's capitalism.

Not convinced you're the faggot in the video, which I didn't even watch. Post a pic with timestamp, or GTFO.

Communism being slavery sums it up really well. The government owns everything you earn, the government controls the market, the government controls your rations. You're a fucking slave in a communist country. I'd start a revolution if I lived in a communist country, they don't give a shit about their people.

Look at china, their air is fucked, their water is shit, they live in shit homes, yet they work their asses off.

A FUCKING LEAF

>logical lefties

The OP isn't the guy in the videos, he's probably trying to shame some dude he knows, or some shit.

Anyway, as much as I hate capitalism, it's the only one that works and lets people thrive in their own country and through doing what they want to do.
The two major problems that exist because of capitalism are:
a) not every country can be capitalist, as capitalist countries strongly rely on poor countries
b) people defend excessive greed as an aspect of capitalism when greed can be controlled to an extent

Capitalism fails in the sense that some people have to suffer because some peoples' success (earned or not) can be so extreme. That is why the most realistic best way to run a nation is through taking the best aspects of capitalism to allow the free market the strength it needs, and the best aspects of socialism, thus by using tax money properly, we make up for the failures of capitalism.

Because it only allows for self interest. All other interests, such as that of the nation or that of future generations, are penalized.
Capital accumulates with the greedy, deceptive and exploitative rather than the noble, honorable and just.

Did you guys know that communism is inevitable? Might as well just stop getting involved in politics because no matter what you do communism will win out.

>Karl Marx examined capitalism
Back in the 1800's. Marx wasn't around for the split in schools of thought or the 1950's.

National socialism is the only true escape from (((capitalism)))

>OPEN THE VIDEO
>DESLIKE THE VIDEO
>COMMENT "A FUCKING LEAF"

Being a slave to money is far better than being a slave to your government.

Lets not forget that even the chinese communists have become slaves of western capitalists.

This. Ironically, pretty much every attempt to stop capitalism only delays the inevitable proletariat revolution. Communists should actually be demanding an end to welfare, entitlements, and regulations if they really want their system.

>Because it only allows for self interest. All other interests, such as that of the nation or that of future generations, are penalized.
>Capital accumulates with the greedy, deceptive and exploitative rather than the noble, honorable and just.
perfectly worded, my friend. Good to see somebody else understands.

>>>Why is being able to own the things you earned justified?
>hurr, he borrow my things therefore he gets to keep it!

if you think you deserve your fair share because all you do is turn wrenches in a factory, then you should gtfo and start our own business

Nonsense. Those values are completely independent of capitalism. If you populate a capitalist society with people who hold your beliefs, you will see favorable results. If you populate it with idiots (or allow the state to pursue a socialist dysgenic program to breed out the hardworking and intelligent), then you'll get what we have today.

They demand welfare, entitlements and regulations because they don't have their system.

And why is that? Because their government doesn't mind getting rich off of western capitalist. They'll let their people be slaves for them in a heart beat to get rich.

But if it was to happen, it cant be forced, as soon as it is forced, you have an authoritarian dictatorship.

ALERT: All of these new "Debate me I'm a huge faggot" threads are slides/shills, ignore!

kek, I liked your satire. Most Sup Forumsacks don't have the attention span to watch more than 10 seconds.

Again, they are delaying true communism, which they profess that they want.

Why would people who want people to be equal, want to try to force the implementation of communism by removing welfare etc and inevitably having people suffer (more)?

Ah! And there is the problem. Communism has a problem of not recruiting the right people to their cause and the over reliance on the losers of society to make things happen. Communists need the riches of the state to entice people to join so they can get what they want but can't afford to make the people they need get their own riches in that it will cause the communist to lose power.

>video games
man children toys
>Diffrent types of vehicles
National socialism can give you that too(Volkswagen Mercedes BMW)
>Television
Pic related
>different brands of beer
National socialism can give you that as well
>wide amount of fast food joints
>Eating (((GMO)))™ infested crap
>Communism is literally fucking slavery.
Yea, it is but so is capitalism

Faggot communists are just jealous that they're worthless.

Capitalism is decent, this way 10,000,000 people can contribute to one decent person while still being free making that one decent person rich enough to do good.

Communism is bad, this way 10,000,000 people can contribute to 100 evil people without being free giving those 100 evil people rich enough to murder more people.

You sound like you're from (((Brooklyn))), like Bernie Sanders....

You asking pretty stupid questions. Welfare, entitlements, and regulations, according to Marx, only assuage the proletariat.

> "However, the democratic petty bourgeois want better wages and security for the workers, and hope to achieve this by an extension of state employment and by welfare measures; in short, they hope to bribe the workers with a more or less disguised form of alms and to break their revolutionary strength by temporarily rendering their situation tolerable."

I would like you to name one successful communist country. I'll wait.

Bonus points if they don't void peoples human rights, freedom of speech/expression, gulag people, or commit mass genocide.

>Inb4 muh china

Violates even the murderous ones of the above even through the 90s, and still censors and controls their people because the notion that communism/marxism/maoist is utopian and idealist leave the individual to be wrong for being against "perfection"

>I would like you to name one successful communist country

name one successful libertarian/ancap country.

>capitalism bad
>this must mean communism is the only solution

>national socialism (nazism to the normies) is also a solution to communism. Ironically the only time anyone starved under the nazi-sozi was when Allied forces cut off supply lines

Liechtenstein

Ah ok . Kys

Maybe then. Quoting Marx is irrelevant. If it's a stupid question you can answer it easily, I'm sure.

Lmao, Napoleon, WW1 and WW2. Rofl, the ancient regimes are much too ingrained in society, it's an insurmountable advantage.

You dunces threw away 100 million lives against the ancient regimes this century and only got more crushed.

Who said I subscribed to those fringe ideologies? You are the one with the burden of proof friend.

Please, stay on point here and refrain from attacking moot points when your contention is challenged.

>leaf
Of course

OP you faggot, youve blocked two of my accounts are you afraid of being told the truth? Pussy commies every fucking time, you can't debate shit.

Seriously, you are not even a person if you lose your individuality.

>capitalism is bad
You're right I agree

>Therefore the only solution MUST be communism
You don't want to replace a crappy system with a worse quicker failing one

I don't think you want to go down that road and here is why. Ancaps don't have much to go off of like communists do. Communists have way too many failures and shouldn't dare bring anybody else into the picture.

Capitalism is not evil nor good.

You can say capitalism is greedy but is not.

Capitalism is just neutral or shallow per se.

because you can be a good person or charitative and build a better world around you and/or share your wealth or means to be wealthy or you can be evil/greedy and look for only your personal gain.

But either can be stopped by just simply not agreeing to let any of those positions to grow by simply not buy/support either.

Soros is capitalist and he wants to control the world and there's people like bill gates (just for the sake of an argument) who tries to make a better world.

All those "leftiest" who are welthy like bill gates and such and even michael moore in a sense, are capitalist who are trying to make a better world, their ideas might be wrong or they take advantage off of the system they hate and still shill just because they are too stupid, but they enjoy the fruits of the best system.

little bit drunk but I hope I made my point across

Capitalism is corporate tyranny. If it is privately
owned then it insures the continuation of inheritance which in itself is the greatest entitlement and tyranny against the average working man.

it was well-deserved you fucking faggot

What the fuck is someone like you doing on this board? I bet you're a new fag from r/the_donald who thinks the people of Sup Forums buy into your (((capitalism))). Pic related

Don't try to derail the focus from your shitty ideology you leftist twat. The focus is on communism, not capitalism

>Kys
Nope. With all luck and new money, i'll be comfortably insulated from the social malaise and the hyper-darwinism that will take hold upon this world. I can't say the same for you or your descendants.

Haven't watched the video, but thanks for telling me that this leaf talks like a fag. Will not watch videos of dudes talking like a fag and I appreciate fellow burgers pointing this out.

the point is that utopian examples are irrelevant. There are no ideal communist countries, just like there are no ideal capitalist countries. Your request is unreasonable because you can discount any ideology you choose by settings the standards up so high for examples.

Lol, hes blocking dissenters too. In true commie fashion. If i ever see this little twat IRL m going to slap the shit out of him.

>my parents were lazy degenerates and didn't leave me anything
>so nobody should be allowed to inherit wealth, muh exploitation
Can't wait for the day of the helicopter.

capital accumulates at the top but it gets reinvested into the market, rich people dont get rich by hoarding money, they get rich by investing it into business. if you need help starting a business a rich guy can help you with that and you both benefit.

there are weaknesses in the capitalist system, namely power gets too concentrated at the top and the little people suffer, but thats why good government is so important in things like breaking up monopolies and fertilizing the ground for disruptive technologies.

communism has the same problem, in the end theres always going to be some "rich guy" or "party leader" telling everyone else what to do. theres really no way to escape this hierarchy unless you want a society that is completely without order.

and for capitalism being the thing for "greedy" people, everyone is self interested and if you claim otherwise youre lying. i personally give way more of a shit about my life, my family's life, and my money than i do about you and yours. this leads me to make effective decisions on my own, i don't need someone telling me how to live. its human nature and you run counter to it at your own peril. thats why communism has never worked out in the history of mankind

I haven't blocked anyone. I'd appreciate if you stop spreading misinformation please.

I think he answers it pretty well and there's an obvious logic to it. If there is going to be a proletariat revolution, (and according to Marx, there will be), it stands to reason it would be more likely if there's as little benefits to the working class. Actually Marxists should encourage even more exploration of workers, like banning unions through legislation, or perhaps introducing a caste system

Bait thread. Ignore. I'm a communist myself and this guy is either a retarded SocDem (capitalism still) or just full on baiting hard. Don't fall for it.

This.

hey op im really tired but just wondering, have u read economics in one lesson by henry hazlitt?

But paying men for anal is really expensive these days I'm pretty sure you won't be saving much.

>Capitalism is corporate tyranny. If it is privately
>owned then it insures the continuation of inheritance which in itself is the greatest entitlement and tyranny against the average working man.
Idiotic. I could inherit a bigger, bloodier empire under a communist regime than I could under a capitalist one because communism is slavery.

Capitalism is a medium that gives people the liberty to endorse production when it is to their benefit and boycott it when it is contrary to their benefit. Capitalism is a tool that was created for the benefit of all free men.

First off, I've never been on r/thedonald once in my fucking life.
Secondly, is that not true? Wouldn't you rather be a "slave" to money than a slave to your government?

When you're a "slave" to money, you can still choose how you earn it, and how you spend it. There is literally no other system that would have society move forward as a whole without some form of system that involves currency, and the only way you can have currency and a free peoples that MUST work and do their part is if it involves capitalism. Capitalism has its flaws, but it's the only way society, the way it is in the 21st century, can survive.

Why don't you care about your family? Family is the strongest thing a person can have, despite what Marxists think.

Okay. But Communism =/= Marxism. To want fairness/equality doesn't mean the person has to want a revolution through negative means

>Capitalism is a medium that gives people the liberty to endorse production when it is to their benefit and boycott it when it is contrary to their benefit. Capitalism is a tool that was created for the benefit of all free men.

how's your boycott towards the jew-owned MSM working?

Bullshit you fucking coward.