Hey /x/phile here

Hey /x/phile here
Making sigils of politicians
You can do with them as you wish. You can use them to help or hinder said politicians. Obviously taking requests
Watcha want senpai?

>pic related, Hillary Rodham Clinton

you draw them, then meditate (or just think about) what you want to happen while looking at the pic
>file name

The ghost of Osama bin Laden

>thinking this child's play is remotely as effective as kek

heres some Rob Ford
ill make Osama now
i am simply a prophet for his holiness

ya sick fuck

a tribute
Kek, invoking Sepa

welp. this died quickly.

Make one for Merkel

(making an actual one too)

Accurate/10 , this could do

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these are terrible sigils and drawn terribly too

spelans stop

Thanks sigilbro

>quickly drawn shit to control politicans
>not up to par
shilling is bad

stop drawing borders that constrain the sigils, unless the border is representative of something in the sigils purpose

i only use it for people
the border represents that it is still within a body
so i shouldnt have used one for kek, osama, or ford desu

and what is the purpose for a sigil for a politician/celebrity

you can just use a picture of them

a picture represents their body
this is for their mind/soul

You have autism.

their are two kinds of sigils

tools and seeds

you dont have the means to represent theirmind/soul whatever

you can associate a tool sigil into use of a seed sigils identity, and direct it a picture that represents the person

I'm thinking it's schizo though.

chaos magick

its just an open-ended perspective on reality and means of exploring it

but how does meming affect the real world

"how" it works, is not important.

if it works, use it, is the core precept of chaos magick.

some chaos magickians involve technology and science in their work, others are utterly dogmatic to existing religions, "believing" in them profoundl for the duration of the work. others use sex, adrenaline, exertion, pain. others use insanity. some are atavastic like animals.

its an open ended system that posits that reality is infact mutable, not set.

memes are a very simple and concrete sigil virus.

they infiltrate the hosts, propagate, and create more copies ofnthemselves, carrying sometimes mutations from the hosts peculiarities.

Okay, what empirically can memes even do besides possibly change the minds of those that view them?

>drawing sigils
>don't even have a steady hand

Why even bother making the fucking thread if you're this awful.

i'm going to print these, how do i use them?

are these illegal?

The empirical efficacy of memes is already established and demonstrated.

Memes are only a fraction of what comprises chaos magick.

The idea, is that reality is mutable.
A quantum flux of infinite possibilities.
As such, it may not be possible to get empirical evidence that reality has been changed, BECAUSE reality will have changed.

Lets take an extreme example of changing your hair from blonde to brown. If successful, you will now have changed reality to one in which you are brown haired.

You will not have any recollection of the time you where blonde, because in that reality form, you never where blonde. Youve always been brown haired there.

This 2bqh famalam. Sort yourself out OP

Id argue there is no way to use these sigils, because they attempt to portray something they cannot (the mind/soul/whatever) of a person.

But since chaos magick is open-ended, who am I to say what will or wont work for you.

Print out the sigil, intently focus on, formulate and concrete your thoughts of what you want to happen to the target, set fire to the sigil, watch it burn, focus on the flames, and then deliberately forget you ever did any of the above.

Draw some sankofites around it.

a steady hand is not required.

if you prefer one drawn out in CAD with extreme precision, go ahead and make what works best for you.

Fuck off back to /x/ you loony

Thus you provide the will, visualisation and focus.

The sigil provides something to direct it at.

Burning it provides the energy to activate the purpose.

Forgetting it removes you from interfering with that purpose.

You are actually not talking about manipulating reality. In your anecdote it seems more like you yourself have changed which 'multiverse' (for lack of a better term) you're in and your will actually had no effect on reality at all but only on your perception

Loony, perhaps.

But physics continues to show evidence that reality may infact be mutable.

Ancient alchemists heuristically knew there must be a way to transmute lead into gold.Turns out they where right.

However their purpose was not truly to turn lead into gold, but the philosophical pursuit of creating value out of something without it. Of transmutation.

All those multiverses are part of the same reality.

You are conflating reality as a finite system, rather than an infinite one.

If you are further interested on the topic, see if you can find "Liber Null & Psychonaut" by Peter J. Carrol online as a free e-book.

Its an introduction to the precepts of chaos magic.

still no answer to how you manipulate reality besides
>it's mutable

see
you are approaching the system as if it where closed, and that reality cannot be manipulated.

if you approach the system as open, anything becomes potentially possible.

I guess I'm still not understanding it. So I masturbate while I think about the reality I want to be in and then after climax I look in a mirror and my hair is brown?

Of course you can change reality, dumbass. It's called action and reaction you dense fucking cunt. That doesn't mean that drawing shit on a piece of paper, which is essentially voodoo (nigger-tier bullshit) does shit you mongolonigger. The idea of meme magic is that the perception of the mass subconscious gets altered by spreading certain bits of information to a so called uncongenial crowd you fucking pleb.
However this doesn't mean that reality changes but only the perception itself which leads to the illusion of the mass subconscious of reality being changed (10000 horses can't be wrong) you uneducated peasant.

This also means that these bits of information need to have a visual appeal in order to spread you daft idiot. So it does indeed matter how you draw a sigil because it needs to be aesthetic and also have a meaning (no, dismantling a word doesn't mean shit) in order to spread. Read some fucking books you slant eyed yellow ass nordnigger cuck piece of schizophrenic shit

thank you! this guy is fucking getting it

Is this universe infinite?
Are there infinite universes?

Can you answer these questions?

I actually got something wrong. It's called "mass conscious" (which is merely the collective subconscious of an [un]congenial crowd) not "mass subcounscious" so please don't quote me wrong here

you are overly concerned with memes.

sigils are just a form, a husk to be given a purpose.

Can you? Can anyone on this planet? Probably not.
If you're trying to have a discussion about things noone can know you're not going to look smart, nigger

>It's called action and reaction

and who is to say that there are not mechanisms whereby chaos magic constitutes an action with commensurate reaction?

everything is in a causal relationship in this universe. there is no true "nothing" or emptiness between any two anythings anywhere in this universe. all are interconnected, unequivocally, and part of the same whole.

Zero, for all intents and purposes, does not exist as a natural phenomenon in this universe. Zero is just an absence of some quantity/quality, but there is NO place in this universe where there is no quantity or quality present.

No. They're drawings. Get real motherfucker.

Nimbus is the only magical thing in this world which can be proven.

If the universe is infinite, and there are infinite universes, then the probability of anything and everything being not only possible but SURE to occur/exist goes from infinitesimally small, to a 100% certainty.

If you calculate PI to sufficient length, as it is an infinite system, you will inevitably, with 100% mathematical certainty, run into a sequence of 1 million or even 1 billion sequential 6's. Its extremely improbable, but since the system is infinite, it is 100% certain to happen at some point, no matter how improbable.

not only can't op draw a straight line but he completely misunderstands how sigils work

You dont understand what chaos magic is.

You are fixating on drawings.

>Nimbus is the only magical thing in this world which can be proven.

To quote Spock, nothing unreal, exists.

Have you ever tried to say something with substance or actual meaning and not ramble random shit without actually reasoning?

People like you are why /x/ is complete shit nowadays.

As an analogy, its like you are fixating on the numbers in math, rather than the mathematical systems in which they are applied.

Ive visited /x/ like 2 times in 6 years.

I only ever spend time here on Sup Forums and occassionally /ck/.

I also have education in the scientific method, and understand entirely what it is.

You are creating a cage for your own mind.
You are limiting your own perspective.

These matters are more philosophical, than scientific.

Ill ask you another question:

Has there ever, even once, been a true random event in this universe?

Or is everything in a causal relationship?

You're either trolling me or you're literally Jaden Smith

>quoting Spock
>how can reality be real if our minds aren't real durr

You completely misunderstood the quote.

Try again:

"Nothing unreal, exists."

Do you disagree with this axiom?

As a christian, I feel like pic related.

>can't even draw in a steady hand
>expecting magic
Take a shot of whiskey, try again

Do you really think that I will even try to convince you of something, let alone debate with someone who fails at basic reading comprehension. I'm not sure what's wrong with you but wither you're legit crazy or you're as bored as me. I'm not even going to tell you to educate yourself on actual, feasible things because I know that your next post will be just as meaningless and empty as the others

You are homosexual, arent you

Your mom asked me the same thing after not answering her desperate calls.

you are somekind of cocksucker though, right?

be honest

Never tried it. Doubt I ever will but I guess you know what you're talking about

are you channeling?